Marcus Freeman named Dick Corbett Head Football Coach

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PSA, for the 2000th time, Freeman won't criticize Ash in front of the media.

Before everyone gets pissed at Freeman for not criticizing Ash.
Of course not. I don't care about media soundbites. I want results. Today was not super reassuring on that front. Second half was better, but the first half was completely inexcusable in terms of effort, intensity, and execution. Too many times under Ash the defense has looked like that. Freeman has to be the one to draw a line in the sand and hold Ash to it. We don't know what Freeman is saying or doing behind the scenes, but the first 30 minutes of our game today don't indicate whatever he said over the bye worked.
 

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Of course not. I don't care about media soundbites. I want results. Today was not super reassuring on that front. Second half was better, but the first half was completely inexcusable in terms of effort, intensity, and execution. Too many times under Ash the defense has looked like that. Freeman has to be the one to draw a line in the sand and hold Ash to it. We don't know what Freeman is saying or doing behind the scenes, but the first 30 minutes of our game today don't indicate whatever he said over the bye worked.
I don't disagree. If we lose to Miami, Freeman's seat won't get warm, but if he doesn't fire Ash at the end of the season (and we lose to Miami), Freeman's seat will certainly start to get hot.
 

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I have a suspicion that Coach Freeman's personality will never allow him to be pre-game Rockne, nor Holtz, nor even Kelly.

Personality is great in every other way --- just not that. I doubt that Denbrock or Ash have that in their personalities either.
 

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There’s always a little bit of adjustments in terms of what alignments, a couple maybe movements and calls, but we couldn’t panic. That’s what I kept saying, ‘stop panicking.’ Don’t come up with some magical calls that our guys don’t know how to execute.

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Don’t try to get it all in one play. Win this play. That’s really what I said to the coaching staff and the offense at halftime. Don’t panic. Don’t panic. That’s what outside noise and voices try to get you to do is panic. Don’t panic.

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Like, you don’t want to create chaos and panic about why something happened. That’s why I talked to this group about, it’s 14 to 13, we can create a narrative that, ‘Oh, they were thinking about Miami,’ or, no, we have to focus on, ‘Why didn’t you—what did they do to execute versus our defense, and what did we not do on offense in the three-and-out set to make sure we execute? But we have to be careful of creating, I keep using this word, panic, because all of a sudden, we’re gonna start saying, ‘We’re losing confidence in what we’ve done to get to this point.’ That’s the important part in the middle of this 13-to-14 struggle. It’s like, ‘Let’s focus on the things that really matter. What aren’t we doing, and what do you have to do better as coaches and players, and not saying some other reason, something else is (indiscernible) with ours.

Q. You use the word panic a bunch, so did you sense any of it (and) what gave you confidence that if you didn’t that you guys were OK?

FREEMAN: I used that word probably just to make sure our guys didn’t lose, probably the, not the faith, but the conviction that they’ve had in what we’re doing, what they’re doing, because of a loss. I think it’s important because if you all of a sudden start listening to all these different people with answers and you yourself start to think that you have the great—like you lose conviction on, ‘Hey, we’ve done some really good things to get to this point, don’t panic and all of a sudden go away from what we’ve done really well.’ How do we make sure we do the things we haven’t done so well better?
 

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No matter what happens the rest of the season hopefully we have a new OC and DC next year
 

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PSA, for the 2000th time, Freeman won't criticize Ash in front of the media.

Before everyone gets pissed at Freeman for not criticizing Ash.

Exactly. Porker was "doing his job" until he magically got a shitty HC job out of nowhere.
 

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We bump the thread during the Navy game but not after beating #1? Hmm

I made some comments in Ash thread so that is separate, I think the offseason choices really shined last night

- Moving Knapp to LG, moving on from Wagner. Two pass protecters not built for CFP football. Needed a change. That “risk” paid off last night with Black and Lambert.

- Sanders in addition to McKinney. T. Gray in addition to Brewu. Moving Gray to Nickel. Paying all the LBs. You paid up for defensive depth across the roster, and it largely paid off.

- Hiring Charlie Partridge

These were all offseason decisions that had Saturday night implications
 

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We bump the thread during the Navy game but not after beating #1? Hmm

I made some comments in Ash thread so that is separate, I think the offseason choices really shined last night

- Moving Knapp to LG, moving on from Wagner. Two pass protecters not built for CFP football. Needed a change. That “risk” paid off last night with Black and Lambert.

- Sanders in addition to McKinney. T. Gray in addition to Brewu. Moving Gray to Nickel. Paying all the LBs. You paid up for defensive depth across the roster, and it largely paid off.

- Hiring Charlie Partridge

These were all offseason decisions that had Saturday night implications
Spot on. Marcus needed this win and made the right decisions on/off the field that capitalized on the opportunity. This team was ready for this moment. It wasn't perfect (it never will be) but we want for no other leading the program we love.

Signature win. Onward.
 

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Biggest thing with Freeman is that he has raised expectations to the point of legitimately expecting to compete with / beat anyone. There is no "next tier"... like everyone came into this game feel like there was no other acceptable result than beating the #1 team.

At some point you just have to appreciate that the program is operating at a completely different level over the past 3 seasons than it did for the preceding 25+ seasons. People used to actually say shit like "gee I hope we are competitive" or be focused on the optics of playing close vs getting blown out in big games against top teams. I remember a point in time where it legitimately talk about if we could/would ever beat USC again given the talent disparity, etc.

And most of these guys were recruited before we started doing big NIL spend.
 

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Biggest thing with Freeman is that he has raised expectations to the point of legitimately expecting to compete with / beat anyone. There is no "next tier"... like everyone came into this game feel like there was no other acceptable result than beating the #1 team.

At some point you just have to appreciate that the program is operating at a completely different level over the past 3 seasons than it did for the preceding 25+ seasons. People used to actually say shit like "gee I hope we are competitive" or be focused on the optics of playing close vs getting blown out in big games against top teams. I remember a point in time where it legitimately talk about if we could/would ever beat USC again given the talent disparity, etc.

And most of these guys were recruited before we started doing big NIL spend.
I was thinking about this very topic on my drive into work. I get frustrated at times, but overall I'm very spoiled as a ND fan. If you go back to 2017, we're 105-22. That's 4th best in FBS behind only Georgia, Alabama, and OSU. That's basically a decade now of being a top 4 program in the nation. Freeman has elevated us even further from the late BK years which were good to very good, to where we're now elite. We have the talent and depth to beat any team.

I think what frustrates us is we watched (depending on age) Nebraska in the 90s, Miami in the early 2000s, USC in the mid 2000s, Alabama for what felt like our entire lives under Saban, and the Kirby Smart UGA teams from 2021-2023 just totally demoralize and dominate teams consistently. Even really good teams looked average against the peak of Alabama or UGA. Naturally, we want that. But, our mental calculus hasn't recalibrated to the fact that this is a new day and age. Even the very best teams bleed now. NIL and the portal have leveled the playing field which benefits us, but we also feel the downsides of that. There just simply aren't joyless murderball machines anymore because teams lack the depth like they used to have to do that. I would say right now that UGA is probably the most complete team in the country yet they lost to Auburn. There's now a core of like 6-8 teams that are good enough to win it all, the goal is to be in that mix. We are.
 

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Biggest thing with Freeman is that he has raised expectations to the point of legitimately expecting to compete with / beat anyone. There is no "next tier"... like everyone came into this game feel like there was no other acceptable result than beating the #1 team.

At some point you just have to appreciate that the program is operating at a completely different level over the past 3 seasons than it did for the preceding 25+ seasons. People used to actually say shit like "gee I hope we are competitive" or be focused on the optics of playing close vs getting blown out in big games against top teams. I remember a point in time where it legitimately talk about if we could/would ever beat USC again given the talent disparity, etc.

And most of these guys were recruited before we started doing big NIL spend.

It's why I couldn't take the "if ND loses to Miami, you have to start questioning Freeman" sentiment seriously. Fortuna just a few days ago was playing that game saying "Kelly got you to the playoffs twice when it was a four team playoff". Yes, it would have been terrible to lose that game and almost certainly miss the playoffs, and you do need to win the big games, but acting like the last two years are wasted years when you see how much the program's entire culture and recruiting machine has improved is just being silly.
 

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He is the man for this moment. It doesn't guarantee anything, and he knows that more than anyone, but this is the guy for this program in this era of college football. I hope he is the one to win a National Championship. Again, if he's half the person he projects himself to be, we are in tremendous shape.
 

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Ohio St knows that too. If they think they can get him I have a feeling they'll send Day packing. Just my opinion, but I think it's possible.
 

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He is the man for this moment. It doesn't guarantee anything, and he knows that more than anyone, but this is the guy for this program in this era of college football. I hope he is the one to win a National Championship. Again, if he's half the person he projects himself to be, we are in tremendous shape.
I’ve had one of his former players tell me there is nothing in the world he wouldn’t do for Marcus Freeman, and another tell me “I would put my life on the line for that man” so I do suspect the man behind the curtain is the same man projected to us. Also comments about how hard he cares about and coaches every player on the team equally hard whether you’re a scout team walk on or the starting QB.
 
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Ohio St knows that too. If they think they can get him I have a feeling they'll send Day packing. Just my opinion, but I think it's possible.

From what I've heard, I'm firmly of the opinion that there is no other college job Freeman would leave ND for.

If he goes, it'll be to the NFL. If he ever ends up in Columbus, it will be after he had his shot in the NFL.
 

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I would love to be wrong, but the draw from "home" to some guys is often too much to say no to. in this case to it wouldn't be like he's going to the bottom of the barrel to go home. He'd be going to a top 5 program
 

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I would love to be wrong, but the draw from "home" to some guys is often too much to say no to. in this case to it wouldn't be like he's going to the bottom of the barrel to go home. He'd be going to a top 5 program
Also, Columbus is just a lot better place to live than South Bend, especially if you have family nearby. Imagine getting an offer that lets your kids see their grandparents all the time.

I think the main reason he'd turn it down is because OSU fans are insane and threaten the coach and his family when they're unhappy--- and they get unhappy for things that will become more common over time, like "not blowing out every opponent." That factor can't be discounted.
 
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