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Correct. The field doesn't have equal course access. Which is why you see a lot of golfers practice on courses that have similar grass, sand, and shot shape requirements. During tournament week, on practice days, you'll see the old guys coach the young guys. JT almost always practices with Fred and Tiger, for example. You do what you can with what you have. End of the day, nothing is simulating the pressure cooker that is Augusta National, though. You prepare for that by continually being in big moments. This was a talking point at one point regarding Sam Burns. It's also why I was absolutely dumbfounded by Justin Rose's collapse around Amen Corner. He's been in big moments, he knows where and where not to miss, yet he still managed to piss away his opportunity. No amount of practice over the weeks leading up to the tournament would've better prepared him. At some point, you just have to rise up and take it, ie. Rory on 12 and 13 --> Go get your jacket.
 

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People are complaining that Rory was playing Augusta 2-3 weeks before The Master’s. I don’t understand it. What’s stopping the other golfers from doing that? Sounds like he just wanted it more and it paid off for him.
Scheffler was busy having his wife deliver another baby. Scheffler was so nice he even gave him a 12 stroke lead after Friday night. Then the real Scheffler showed up and just about delivered us the greatest comeback in Master's history.

Mostly tongue in cheek, but I am a big Scottie fan.
 

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Scheffler was busy having his wife deliver another baby. Scheffler was so nice he even gave him a 12 stroke lead after Friday night. Then the real Scheffler showed up and just about delivered us the greatest comeback in Master's history.

Mostly tongue in cheek, but I am a big Scottie fan.

Scheffler has been sleep walking through the Thursday and Friday rounds all year. Playing catch up on the weekend is something he’s used to.
 

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Scheffler has been sleep walking through the Thursday and Friday rounds all year. Playing catch up on the weekend is something he’s used to.

Hard to complain about a 68 on Sunday at Augusta, but he also missed a ton of opportunities from hole 4 through 14. All pars!
I would have loved to see him take advantage of those par 5's a little more throughout the week. Outside of #2, he was -1 on 8, 13, and 15 for the week.
 

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Hard to complain about a 68 on Sunday at Augusta, but he also missed a ton of opportunities from hole 4 through 14. All pars!
I would have loved to see him take advantage of those par 5's a little more throughout the week. Outside of #2, he was -1 on 8, 13, and 15 for the week.
He has to look at how he scored on the back 9 par 5's for the whole week and wonder what could have been.
 

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Past champions enjoy more course access privileges, not everyone has a private jet to make school drop off, fly to Augusta and be home for dinner. Others needed to play other tournaments to attempt to win and make money, work towards qualifications, golf ranking etc. Rory is a multi millionaire and the #2 world ranking.

It’s 100% a privilege Rory had that most do not, and I’m sure he’s fine admitting that.
A lot of those on the Tour could do this and do not
not just the top ten or so
sounds like you are looking for excuses
 

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A lot of those on the Tour could do this and do not
not just the top ten or so
sounds like you are looking for excuses

Yes I’m looking for excuses for the unnamed, unexistent golfers I support instead of Rory (who I bet repeatedly all weekend to win btw)

Who pissed in your Cheerios recently?
 

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Ludvig Aberg golfed Augusta a month or so before The Master’s. If Aberg can, I’m sure others can as well.

Everyone has access to practice a certain amount. Private invitation from a member plus being a former winner allows you more. As they say to the victors go the spoils. Nobody (here at least) is suggesting Rory did anything wrong.
 

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Yes I’m looking for excuses for the unnamed, unexistent golfers I support instead of Rory (who I bet repeatedly all weekend to win btw)

Who pissed in your Cheerios recently?
then stop whining about special privileges which are nowhere near as special as you claim
 

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Everyone has access to practice a certain amount. Private invitation from a member plus being a former winner allows you more. As they say to the victors go the spoils. Nobody (here at least) is suggesting Rory did anything wrong.
you are saying without saying it explicitly that he won because of his SPECIAL PRIVILEGES
 

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then stop whining about special privileges which are nowhere near as special as you claim

you are saying without saying it explicitly that he won because of his SPECIAL PRIVILEGES

1) No, I’m not.

2) Yeah nobody would ever point out Rory benefited from more practice. Anyways here’s a completely unrelated random quote from Rory McIlroy:

“I think just spending time here,” McIlroy said of his ability to navigate the course better in his 18th Maters appearance. “Between the Players and starting (the Masters) on Thursday, I've been on this golf course, geez, like Monday, Tuesday last week, then Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. I was up here for a day the week before as well. I've been on this golf course so much the last three weeks, and that's been a combination of practice and chipping and putting around greens, and then just playing one ball and shooting scores and ending up in weird places that you maybe never find yourself and just trying to figure it out. I think just spending so much time up here has been a big part of it.”


You’ve been randomly salty across this board recently in the dead of the off-season. Relax.
 

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Occasionally, the idea will pop into my head that asks, "I wonder what the pros would shoot on this course that I'm playing?" Then I remind myself that they're used to playing on incredibly manicured grass/sand/etc and re-shape my assumptions. A crappy bounce, bad lie, patchy grass, shaggy greens all work against the golfer. (Correct, I'm for the poors when it comes to playing golf courses.)

These guys are like machines and Bryson, in particular, is a psycho when it comes to controlling as many variables as possible with every single shot. I'd honestly be pissed too.

We play for fun. This is their job. When IT sends out an "update" that jacks up my laptop and I can't do my job efficiently, I get just as pissed. So I guess I get it.
 

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I guess I’m the opposite. Fuck everyone that left. The PGA was just fine after they left, and they’ll continue to be just fine.
I understand that side of the argument totally. However, I also would love more competition and star power in the non-majors throughout the entire golf calendar. Throw the guys I mentioned in with a few of their other younger stars and the level of competition would be so intriguing to me as a golf fan.
 

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Occasionally, the idea will pop into my head that asks, "I wonder what the pros would shoot on this course that I'm playing?" Then I remind myself that they're used to playing on incredibly manicured grass/sand/etc and re-shape my assumptions. A crappy bounce, bad lie, patchy grass, shaggy greens all work against the golfer. (Correct, I'm for the poors when it comes to playing golf courses.)

These guys are like machines and Bryson, in particular, is a psycho when it comes to controlling as many variables as possible with every single shot. I'd honestly be pissed too.

We play for fun. This is their job. When IT sends out an "update" that jacks up my laptop and I can't do my job efficiently, I get just as pissed. So I guess I get it.
Speaking of this, did you see Bryson's crash out in Mexico because of the playing conditions a week or two ago? I kept thinking, that's just normal playing conditions for real golfer's you big baby.
 

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I'll be curious to see how Rose performs with his new McLaren irons.
 

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I'll be curious to see how Rose performs with his new McLaren irons.
Was really surprised to see him make a switch. I thought overall he's been playing great over the past few years.
 
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Was really surprised to see him make a switch. I thought overall he's been playing great over the past few years.

I agree, but the Honma experience taught him a lot. Plus, I think it's a great financial move at this stage of his career.
 

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First Lesson ever tomorrow. Iron striking has been very poor which used to be a strength. Over the years, my swing has gotten flatter and a little over the top. Need someone to just get me back. I blame the four kids for my incremental index rise.
 

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Speaking of this, did you see Bryson's crash out in Mexico because of the playing conditions a week or two ago? I kept thinking, that's just normal playing conditions for real golfer's you big baby.
Yes. That post was a direct reference to it and actually in defense of Bryson.
 

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Bryson is definitely someone that I’d prefer not to be in the PGA. It’s never his fault when he hits a shitty shot.
 

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I've grown in my golf fandom over the last few years, but I cannot see why the PGA wouldn't figure something out right away to bring LIV's only top talent back into the fold. LIV is literally on the brink of dying and if I was the PGA I'd figure out whatever you needed to do to get Bryson, Rahm, Cameron Smith, etc. to say the hell with you I'm going back.

I guess I’m the opposite. Fuck everyone that left. The PGA was just fine after they left, and they’ll continue to be just fine.

I understand that side of the argument totally. However, I also would love more competition and star power in the non-majors throughout the entire golf calendar. Throw the guys I mentioned in with a few of their other younger stars and the level of competition would be so intriguing to me as a golf fan.

1) What do the fans want?
2) What do the current PGA Tour players want?
3) What do the sponsors want?
4) What do the powers that be want?

Idk who carries the most weight. But somewhere in that equation lies the answer.

Personally, I'd prefer to see guys like Rahm and Bryson back on the PGA Tour and feel like they offer immediate ROI. As to everyone else, I say give them the Reed treatment and make them re-earn their card via DP World Tour. Guys like Hatton, Cam Smith, DJ, Garcia, Bubba and Phil I'm a 50/50 coin flip. I enjoy seeing them out and about during the Majors, but outside of Hatton, I'm not sure the others have done much to prove they still belong.
 
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