Tommy Rees and Carlo Calabrese arrested

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Floyd got tagged for Underage drinking, a misdemeanor if memory serves. Rees "battered" an officer of the law. Had he stayed in place more than likely nothing would have happened.



If it was anyone on this team, or any other team, I would expect nothing less once the process is completed. People who are happy about this are fooling themselves. The coaches know what they are doing, they see these kids day in and day out and they know who the proper started should be.

If anyone thinks that this does not affect recruiting or putting some more wood under Kelly's warming seat, you are also fooling yourself.


I don't really agree. This is an incident of someone being recklessly dumb... as long as it's handled correctly, I don't see any recruiting issues or "hot seat' issues.

If a student doesn't like that someone's getting in trouble for assaulting a cop, they probably shouldn't come to Notre Dame. If their parents are looking out for their welfare first, hopefully they see that this is dealt with swiftly and fairly.

Hot seat? Win some games, it's not like this is endemic to the team.
 

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Sometimes I wish the South Bend residents that are always so gleeful on the Tribune comment section could be forcibly transplanted to Ann Arbor, Columbus, or Happy Valley. They act as if we cause them so many troubles, when we absolutely pale in comparison to scUM, OSU, or PSU's tamest parties. Idiots. I hate South Bend so much.
 

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Also I was reading earlier that they called Excise (the only police force I absolutely despise more than SBPD - they are the scum of the Earth) on pigtostal. Can anyone confirm?
 
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Anyway stuff like this happens at every college.

Look at the major stuff that happened at TCU and Iowa recently. Kids will be kids. Most of us probably have been in Tommy and Carlos shoes before.[/QUOTE]

I can't recall the last time I was arrested for battery. lol
 

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Much to do about nothing although Rees should not have knee'd the cop unless something else comes out. Let these kids alone as long as they're not destroying/commiting a crime. Now all the jackass media people will point to the criminal element in South Bend and how Notre Dame is no different than any other school. News flash-Notre Dame IS different and when Rees and Carlo get body slammed by the school you'll see how different. Tommy-man-think brother-think. If this happened in the SEC they'd be laughing while they covered it up. Jail time over a kegger-good grief.
 
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I think you may have missed my point: yes, I know it wouldn't be fun, and if a police officer sprays me with it, then I'm not going to become a subdued, tame individual.

I understand the need and use of need pepper spray. Subjecting a person to its effects , however, and then using that person's natural reaction as evidence of assault seems unfair for sure, and perhaps maybe even like entrapment.

From the television report, I understand that the police are saying Rees "assaulted" and then was sprayed. But the report also says he continued after he was sprayed. News flash-- anybody sure as hell will do that if they've been hit with pepper spray! If whatever charges Rees receives stem from prior to the spraying, fine. If his actions after the spraying are taken into account for the formal charges, then I think that's a whole other issue.

Hey Hoggy ne Gael!

I think you missed both points:

Number one; if they hit you square in the face with pepper spray it is because you are coming at 'em, squared off, or possibly cornered and not smart enough to duck and cover.

Roman numeral two; If they hit you square in the face with pepper spray like his booking photo clearly shows, (look how swolen that side of his face is, heck, his eyes are crooked), then you are a massively better man than I, or absolutely out of your fukkin' mind. Of course if you are a meth head, all bets are off.

I am just sayin' I have never seen anybody not subdued immediately by pepper spray. In fact, as I can remember bathing for a couple of days was a beatch, and most people that are sprayed spend as much time getting small and quiet inside to find a hole to bury themselves in.
 

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Anyway stuff like this happens at every college.

Look at the major stuff that happened at TCU and Iowa recently. Kids will be kids. Most of us probably have been in Tommy and Carlos shoes before.[/QUOTE]

I can't recall the last time I was arrested for battery. lol

Well, look at it this way. I was a Pre-Med major. If you have an arrest, there is no way you can get into med school. Same story for Pre-law and many others. So I would book it as soon as I saw flashing lights. There was one party where I, and many others, jumped off of a second-floor apartment balcony to avoid the cops. There is no way I would have gone down without a fight. No matter what, you do whatever it takes to get away. I've jumped off of balconies, jumped fences, and sprinted a mile and a half and jumped into the back of a pickup to avoid the cops. I don't believe anything cops say. Their claim of "battery" was probably Rees flailing after they pepper sprayed the hell out of him. Who knows why or when they pepper sprayed him? Maybe he pepper sprayed him just for running. I wouldn't put it past the SBPD. The cop can say whatever he wants and nobody in the community or the news will question him. I hope he got that copper good.

Other than going 10-2 this upcoming season, this was the best way Rees could ever manage to get the student body united behind him.
 

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Much to do about nothing although Rees should not have knee'd the cop unless something else comes out. Let these kids alone as long as they're not destroying/commiting a crime. Now all the jackass media people will point to the criminal element in South Bend and how Notre Dame is no different than any other school. News flash-Notre Dame IS different and when Rees and Carlo get body slammed by the school you'll see how different. Tommy-man-think brother-think. If this happened in the SEC they'd be laughing while they covered it up. Jail time over a kegger-good grief.

I doubt it was even a true kegger. Goody and his roommates always keep it chill.
 

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Did hear that it was broken up early.

That sucks. Pigtostal was one of my favorite undergrad events. Everybody takes cabs to and from it, and everybody goes. You're enclosed in a backyard with a lot of kegs, it doesn't spill over to neighboring houses, it usually clears up by around 6PM, etc. Well, it was bound to happen sometime.
 

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Well, look at it this way. I was a Pre-Med major. If you have an arrest, there is no way you can get into med school. Same story for Pre-law and many others. So I would book it as soon as I saw flashing lights. There was one party where I, and many others, jumped off of a second-floor apartment balcony to avoid the cops. There is no way I would have gone down without a fight. No matter what, you do whatever it takes to get away. I've jumped off of balconies, jumped fences, and sprinted a mile and a half and jumped into the back of a pickup to avoid the cops. I don't believe anything cops say. Their claim of "battery" was probably Rees flailing after they pepper sprayed the hell out of him. Who knows why or when they pepper sprayed him? Maybe he pepper sprayed him just for running. I wouldn't put it past the SBPD. The cop can say whatever he wants and nobody in the community or the news will question him. I hope he got that copper good.

Other than going 10-2 this upcoming season, this was the best way Rees could ever manage to get the student body united behind him.


I can dig all of this.

Unfortunately, all we'll ever know is that it's 'assault on a cop.'

Too bad, because I'm sure it's the way you described it, and an ND QB can't have that on his record. (IMO)
 

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I don't understand respecting Goodman over that interview piece.
The lady was simply doing her job,and did not ask and risque questions.Very simple.
He acted like a douche and then slammed the door in her face.
All he had to do was simply say he was unable to comment and politely say goodbye.
I guess I'm in the wrong here for having manners.
 

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Well, look at it this way. I was a Pre-Med major. If you have an arrest, there is no way you can get into med school. Same story for Pre-law and many others. So I would book it as soon as I saw flashing lights. There was one party where I, and many others, jumped off of a second-floor apartment balcony to avoid the cops. There is no way I would have gone down without a fight. No matter what, you do whatever it takes to get away. I've jumped off of balconies, jumped fences, and sprinted a mile and a half and jumped into the back of a pickup to avoid the cops.

This was the point I was trying to make earlier, but got taken out of context. Thank you sir.
 
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Well, look at it this way. I was a Pre-Med major. If you have an arrest, there is no way you can get into med school. Same story for Pre-law and many others. So I would book it as soon as I saw flashing lights. There was one party where I, and many others, jumped off of a second-floor apartment balcony to avoid the cops. There is no way I would have gone down without a fight. No matter what, you do whatever it takes to get away. I've jumped off of balconies, jumped fences, and sprinted a mile and a half and jumped into the back of a pickup to avoid the cops. I don't believe anything cops say. Their claim of "battery" was probably Rees flailing after they pepper sprayed the hell out of him. Who knows why or when they pepper sprayed him? Maybe he pepper sprayed him just for running. I wouldn't put it past the SBPD. The cop can say whatever he wants and nobody in the community or the news will question him. I hope he got that copper good.

Other than going 10-2 this upcoming season, this was the best way Rees could ever manage to get the student body united behind him.

A well elocuted post with good content and an ironic good twist!
 
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Can someone closer to South Bend explain something to me, why were the cops even chasing somebody that was running from a house party??? I've been to a few parties that have been broken up by the cops and have ran from the site myself but was never chased by the police. Thanks, just trying to understand what's really going on.
 
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A DUI on probation is not a minor offense or a teachable error. I'm sure he had to go to some drug or alcohol class while on probation, yet still decided to drive under the influence.

First Offense DUI in Indiana: IN Penalties and Plea Options | drivinglaws.org

After doing quick research, looked like Floyd only had one DUI.

"In 2009, Floyd was cited for underage consumption of alcohol in his home state of Minnesota and pleaded guilty through a hearing officer a month later.

Floyd also was cited for underage drinking in Minneapolis on Jan. 8, 2010. Floyd and Minnesota running back Shady Salamon, who were high school teammates in St. Paul, were cited after police were called to a fight involving six to 10 people." (Notre Dame reinstates wideout Michael Floyd after DUI arrest - USATODAY.com)

He was sentenced to a year in jail which is a misdemeanor. (18 USC § 3559 - Sentencing classification of offenses | LII / Legal Information Institute)

This post was not directed solely at you but I've seen quite a few comparisons to Floyd.

Now, according to Indiana Code 35-42-2, if the officer proves he was injured and the lawyer agrees to press those charges, it would fall under the felony side of things, however, if he can't then Rees could be facing a Class B misdemeanor which equals 30 days to 6 months in jail, assuming they still charge him with battery.

Indiana Code 35-42-2
 

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Anyway stuff like this happens at every college.

Look at the major stuff that happened at TCU and Iowa recently. Kids will be kids. Most of us probably have been in Tommy and Carlos shoes before.

But this doesn't happen at ND because ND is not every college. There used to be a reason we could call out UM and USC fans. Now we are part of them.

PS: I have neither ran from the cops nor assaulted one.

I don't really agree. This is an incident of someone being recklessly dumb... as long as it's handled correctly, I don't see any recruiting issues or "hot seat' issues.

If a student doesn't like that someone's getting in trouble for assaulting a cop, they probably shouldn't come to Notre Dame. If their parents are looking out for their welfare first, hopefully they see that this is dealt with swiftly and fairly.

Hot seat? Win some games, it's not like this is endemic to the team.

Not this one incident, but everything thats happened since Kelly has been here. Floyd, Shembo, Lynch saga, Sullivan and now TD Tommy (Really as squeaky clean as a kid can be).
 

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That sucks. Pigtostal was one of my favorite undergrad events. Everybody takes cabs to and from it, and everybody goes. You're enclosed in a backyard with a lot of kegs, it doesn't spill over to neighboring houses, it usually clears up by around 6PM, etc. Well, it was bound to happen sometime.

Apparently the neighbors signed a petition. Swim team had no choice but to cancel it. Sucks cause we didn't even get our money back
 

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I doubt it was even a true kegger. Goody and his roommates always keep it chill.
By tomorrow they'll be giving him 10-20 and maybe even the chair. For sure he's done for awhile at Notre Dame. Cant wait to hear what the national media does with this as the rest of college football cheats/does everything for the purpose of making $$$$/uses kids like rented mules/ and hides under the disquise of amatuer sports. But lets pound on Notre Dame for a beer party with loud music. Really guys its not funny about the knee but honest to *** this is just silly.
 

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Not this one incident, but everything thats happened since Kelly has been here. Floyd, Shembo, Lynch saga, Sullivan and now TD Tommy (Really as squeaky clean as a kid can be).

Honestly I am really surprised so much sh*t has gone down under Kelly's watch. What I hear from people on the team is that he runs a really really tight ship
 

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Also for all you Golson lovers out there, I heard that it was most likely a race between Hendrix and Rees at this point. Golson is struggling to pick up the playbook and will likely only come in on special packages. FWIW
 

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Also for all you Golson lovers out there, I heard that it was most likely a race between Hendrix and Rees at this point. Golson is struggling to pick up the playbook and will likely only come in on special packages. FWIW

source
 

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Honestly I am really surprised so much sh*t has gone down under Kelly's watch. What I hear from people on the team is that he runs a really really tight ship

I'm not inclined to blame Kelly. It may have more to do with the rise of social media. ND's football program has existed in a fish bowl for a long time, but today virtually nothing goes unnoticed. So it's not really a change in the state of the program, so much as a change in how much information we have about it at any one time.
 
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Well if you ever have been in a scrap with someone and a police officer walked by...guess what you would be arrested for assault and possibly battery :)

First off, I have no idea why the quote thing above us is screwing around, not cool because I'm not smart enough for pre-med. LOL

Thirdly, Since I'm a federal officer, I'd be doing the arresting. LOL ;-)
 

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Before yall jump the gun here, I am a stone's throw (literally) from where ESPN is grappling for anything they can feed Mark May, and Tommy is still in jail and NEITHER boy has been charged yet. After 48 hrs if no charges exist Tommy will be let out. However, the incident is still being investigated so he's being held on suspicion (read that again) of a felony charge.
 
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