Tommy Rees and Carlo Calabrese arrested

[gkIrish]

True, and liberal use of that "policy" is probably why I avoided getting dinged for underage drinking as a student. But as older alumni can attest, students used to be able to drink at SYRs, and there were many on-campus venues where one could throw a proper party and offer beer without getting harassed. That's no longer the case, and it's difficult to throw a proper party in a dorm room the size of a large closet (thanks Keenan).

True

 

[Patulski]

I think class resentment rises proportionally by the size of the money gap. You don't. Let's agree to disagree.

That point doesn't take away anything from the point I was making. The situation is the same.

College, university, whatever...in a town that is either poor or in decline...is resented by the town residents. Even though the said university brings in all the money. It's somewhat of a "bite the hand that feeds" mentality. The cops and townies treat the college kids like spoiled little brats that are invading their town....and the college kids think they own the place because they are getting an education and the university is keeping the town alive.

The amount of money doesn't matter in the least....the mindset is the same.

 

[JT_IRISH]

Tommy, Tommy, Tommy... When will the frustrations end with you?

 

[IrishMoore1]

Great Post. But, aren't the Dorms free for anyone to drink in no matter what age. I could be wrong but my college roommate has a cousin currently a sophomore, and we went to visit him last year and drank in the dorms all weekend. He said they let the students drink the dorms, so there is no need for them to go out into the SB "dangerous area". Please someone correct me if I'm wrong. But I think if this is true the University is doing their share. My University and many I have been to are "dry campuses" which Im sure everyone knows means no alcohol whatsoever.

No, the drinking age is still 21. However, the dorms kinda have an unwritten don't ask don't tell deal, in which students can drink beer or wine in their rooms as long as the door is closed and RA's/Rector doesn't see it, and that not so much noise is made that drinking in the room can be noticed by authorities in the hallways.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

I'm not going to read through 9 pages of dribble.

But do you people really think this will cost Carlo and Tommy their career at Notre Dame? WTF is wrong with you people. If Mike Floyd got to play this year, then both of these young men deserve to play. They will have to do community service, but really people!

 

[IrishMoore1]

UPDATE:

Notre Dame quarterback, linebacker arrested Thursday morning - southbendtribune.com

 

[IrishMoore1]

I'm not going to read through 9 pages of dribble.

But do you people really think this will cost Carlo and Tommy their career at Notre Dame? WTF is wrong with you people. If Mike Floyd got to play this year, then both of these young men deserve to play. They will have to do community service, but really people!

Mike Floyd didn't resist arrest or assault a police officer. Big difference. Carlo will be fine.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Mike Floyd didn't resist arrest or assault a police officer. Big difference. Carlo will be fine.

Mike Floyd also was arrested 2 times prior to his DUI and was on probation!

Has Tommy been arrested before? Is he on probation?

SERIOUSLY PEOPLE!

Also, not to mention Mike Floyd could have KILLED people drinking and driving.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

ND doesn't have an off campus/on campus late night bus service for the students? Where I go to school, we have a bus called the "Happy Bus" (not crazy about the name), but it significantly cuts down on DUIs and underages.. obviously I don't go to ND, but they don't have a service like this?

 

[Rack Em]

ND doesn't have an off campus/on campus late night bus service for the students? Where I go to school, we have a bus called the "Happy Bus" (not crazy about the name), but it significantly cuts down on DUIs and underages.. obviously I don't go to ND, but they don't have a service like this?

"Drunk Bus" only runs on Friday and Saturdays

 

[IrishMoore1]

I guess I'll post:

Officers reported that several people began jumping over a fence when they arrived and, specifically, observed a group of five men attempting to jump over a fence and ordered them to stop, said Capt. Phil Trent, South Bend police spokesman.

Rees was the only one of that group who ran from the scene, Trent said.

The officer chased Rees around the home and ordered him to stop, according to a police report. When the officer tried to grab him, an altercation ensued and the two fell to the ground, Trent said.

On the ground, the officer allegedly was kneed in the abdomen by Rees, which knocked the wind out of him and led him to pepper spray Rees. Once in handcuffs, Trent said Rees still attempted to resist.

Calabrese, meanwhile, verbally reacted to the arrest of Rees and would not stand on the sidewalk when ordered to by police, Trent said.

Calabrese's friends reportedly attempted to hold Calabrese back, but he continued to yell things at officers that were interpreted as threats, leading to his arrest.

At one point, Trent said Calabrese told officers: "My people will get you."

Nobody else at the party was arrested, Trent said.

"These two guys probably had the most to lose, and (Rees) decided to run," Trent said.

Rees reportedly blew a 0.11 blood-alcohol content; Calabrese blew at 0.12.

Notre Dame quarterback, linebacker arrested Thursday morning - southbendtribune.com

 

[irishog77]

I'm not going to read through 9 pages of dribble.

But do you people really think this will cost Carlo and Tommy their career at Notre Dame? WTF is wrong with you people. If Mike Floyd got to play this year, then both of these young men deserve to play. They will have to do community service, but really people!

I'm with ya, Sherm. Especially if and when the felony gets dropped on Rees (which I'd say there are decent chances it will).

The big difference I see with these compared to Floyd is the time of year they occurred. Floyd had like 7 months to be "punished" prior to the season starting. Fall camp starts in only 3 months. I think Kelly may be hard pressed to have them both on the field come Navy. But, yeah, it's waaaay premature to believe CC or TR's careers at ND are now over. (Tommy's, and even Carlo's to an extent, careers' may be over by default though due to other players emerging at their positions.)

 

[NDhoosier]

I didnt read through 10 pages either, but WhiskeyJack are you
1) Saying campus should allow underage people to drink?
2) Blaming the police for being "selective"
3) Saying the police are hostile?

As a police officer myself, that is ridiculous on multiple accounts. The first point is simply foolish and I dont really care to hear your reasoning on it, but I am eager to see why you believe the last two points? I am sure the stories will be entertaining and completely unbiased

 

[Sherm Sticky]

I'm with ya, Sherm. Especially if and when the felony gets dropped on Rees (which I'd say there are decent chances it will).

The big difference I see with these compared to Floyd is the time of year they occurred. Floyd had like 7 months to be "punished" prior to the season starting. Fall camp starts in only 3 months. I think Kelly may be hard pressed to have them both on the field come Navy. But, yeah, it's waaaay premature to believe CC or TR's careers at ND are now over. (Tommy's, and even Carlo's to an extent, careers' may be over by default though due to other players emerging at their positions.)

I agree with everything you say.

They both may have to sit out the Navy game or miss a half in the navy game, along with community service.

I also believe that Rees will most likely plea to misdemeanor charges.

 

[NDBoiler]

If you start acting all nice and apologetic and we start getting along then no one is going to take my bet! So stop it!

That's my intention!! LOL

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I didnt read through 10 pages either, but WhiskeyJack are you
1) Saying campus should allow underage people to drink?
2) Blaming the police for being "selective"
3) Saying the police are hostile?

As a police officer myself, that is ridiculous on multiple accounts. The first point is simply foolish and I dont really care to hear your reasoning on it, but I am eager to see why you believe the last two points? I am sure the stories will be entertaining and completely unbiased

I clearly answered both of those questions in my post above. A simple yes or no wouldn't be accurate in either case.

 

[IrishMoore1]

I agree with everything you say.

They both may have to sit out the Navy game or miss a half in the navy game, along with community service.

I also believe that Rees will most likely plea to misdemeanor charges.

On Floyd's case, didn't Kelly say the University doesn't suspend players on a game by game basis. You're either suspended the whole season or not.

 

[Whippersnap06]

Taken from the Indiana state penal code:

"IC 35-42-2-1
Battery
**** Sec. 1. (a) A person who knowingly or intentionally touches another person in a rude, insolent, or angry manner commits battery, a Class B misdemeanor. However, the offense is:
********(1) a Class A misdemeanor if:
************(A) it results in bodily injury to any other person;
************(B) it is committed against a law enforcement officer or against a person summoned and directed by the officer while the officer is engaged in the execution of the officer's official duty;
************(C) it is committed against an employee of a penal facility or a juvenile detention facility (as defined in IC*31-9-2-71) while the employee is engaged in the execution of the employee's official duty;
************(D) it is committed against a firefighter (as defined in IC*9-18-34-1) while the firefighter is engaged in the execution of the firefighter's official duty;
************(E) it is committed against a community policing volunteer:

****************(i) while the volunteer is performing the duties described in IC*35-41-1-4.7; or
****************(ii) because the person is a community policing volunteer; or
************(F) it is committed against the state chemist or the state chemist's agent while the state chemist or the state chemist's agent is performing a duty under IC*15-16-5;
********(2) a Class D felony if it results in bodily injury to:
************(A) a law enforcement officer or a person summoned and directed by a law enforcement officer while the officer is engaged in the execution of the officer's official duty;"

For the police to charge a felony in this case, the officer would have had to sustain an injury caused by Rees. Now, what is charged by the police is never set in stone. The prosecutor will review the facts and determine the proper charges, whether it be an upgrade, downgrade or dismissal.

Only a few know exactly what happened so I say before we start bashing Rees, the police or anyone involved let all the facts come out.

The one thing for sure is its a terrible situation.

 

[irishog77]

On Floyd's case, didn't Kelly say the University doesn't suspend players on a game by game basis. You're either suspended the whole season or not.

Not exactly sure what the University's policy is, but BK is free to suspend a guy for any or all games. He made Tuitt sit for a game last year for missing class.

 

[NDdomer2]

SPORTS SCIENCE: THE ART OF INESCAPABILITY - Every Day Should Be Saturday

Hilarious.

 

[deblaz6497]

Tommy knees a Cop...WOW

Tommy knees a Cop...WOW

I think you are missing the point...Tommy might be getting jail time... He kneed a Cop.... Even Good Will Hunting couldn't talk his way out of jail time after assaulting a cop..lol

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Not exactly sure what the University's policy is, but BK is free to suspend a guy for any or all games. He made Tuitt sit for a game last year for missing class.

Boom you beat me to it on the Tuitt example. I would rep you, but it doesn't let me.

 

[PLACforever]

"Another Judge may care, but you hit a cop, you're going in."
Boom- GWH reference.
Good Will Hunting: Scene 16: INT. COURTROOM -- DAY

 

[Patulski]

True, and liberal use of that "policy" is probably why I avoided getting dinged for underage drinking as a student. But as older alumni can attest, students used to be able to drink at SYRs, and there were many on-campus venues where one could throw a proper party and offer beer without getting harassed. That's no longer the case, and it's difficult to throw any sort of party in a dorm room the size of a large closet (thanks Keenan).

At one time there were also various off campus bars where the police looked the other way- probably because Michigan's drinking age was 18- which goes to your point about the National Minimum Drinking Age Act's designation of 21 as the minimum legal drinking age.

 

[NDhoosier]

I clearly answered both of those questions in my post above. A simple yes or no wouldn't be accurate in either case.

you seem to have a very ignorant view of police work then. Attitudes like that will only get you in my more trouble when it is unnecessary.

 

[irishff1014]

Our season has been saved!

I don't agree with wooly,lax,ironman and others opioions but i do agree with them that this is about more then football. And if you even look at it in the football way this still puts a bad vibe in the locker room

 

[NDBoiler]

I was basing my comment off of woolybug25's post. If you don't consider South Bend rural, than I guess that expands my available schools for comparison.

Endowments that big? No, got me there (although, I just read it's 6.2b, so I gues we're being pretty liberal with our rounding).

If South Bend isn't rural, the most obvious comparions (off the top of my head) would be the University of Dayton. If you've never been, there is a reason they call the area around UD the "ghetto". It used to be much worse, but they have been buying up quite a bit of land around campus, and it's become nicer, but it's still in a rather rundown area of Dayton all things considered.

I believe it actually passed ND on the list of student population at a Catholic University (someone correct me if I'm wrong) and comparative to other schools, and based on their reputation, the student body is considered to be of an upper-class nature.

So no, I can't compare endowments, then again, I suck at shooting moving targets. If South Bend isn't considered a "rural" area, then UD would be a pretty comparable example. Of course, there are differences (you won't find an exact copy of ND, I get that), but similar != exact.

There's good joke there, but I'll refrain...

 

[Sherm Sticky]

you seem to have a very ignorant view of police work then. Attitudes like that will only get you in my more trouble when it is unnecessary.

I'm going to be honest with you. Yes I respect some police officer.

But the majority of police officers I have met are not good people. The majority of police officer I know drink and drive all the time, with loaded weapons on them and shoot them off for fun whenever they want. They take advantage of the privileges they get and bully innocent citizens whether they are in uniform or not.

That's all I want to say on the subject and don't want to have an argument.

 

[goldandblue]

I wish Rees the best and I hope he comes out of this unscathed.

 

[NDdomer2]

SPORTS SCIENCE: THE ART OF INESCAPABILITY - Every Day Should Be Saturday

I posted this earlier. I thought it was hilarious.

Also, in the newest update on the ESPN article they are calling Tommy a "Rising Junior" now. Only when you are hurting your team are you "rising", when you are throwing interceptions to blow wins you are just a "Junior-to-be."