'12 NJ CB Yuri Wright (Colorado Verbal)

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~99% of teenage men think like Yuri Wright's tweets.

false... there were a lot of racial comments in that post. maybe 99% of African American kids who happen to live in a less than stellar neighborhood think like Yuri. If you honestly think every teenage male thinks like this, you must watch too many gangsta movies. His comments were quotes for a rapper representing what is "hood." This is how the media tells African American teenagers to act, especially if you dont have steady guardians.

How is the reaction of the school hypocritical? I am Catholic as well and I simply do not understand how this is hypocritical. "If you break these rules, you will get expelled." A Catholic school still has to operate as a school. If two kids get in a fight at a Catholic school, do you want the teachers to be like "We wont do anything to you two, it is the Catholic way to forgive all, now back to class."

What Yuri Wright said was absolutely uncalled for at any age level. If you are able to understand what those words mean, you also understand how they should and should not be used. The quotes degrade women, are RACIST, and even discuss illegal drugs. Dont give that lame excuse that he is only 18 and doesnt know what he is talking about, if you actually think that, maybe you are the one that doesnt know what he is talking about. Kids these days learn all this stuff in Middle School. While I personally think expulsion is too far, I think a week of suspension was necessary.
 

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Depends on what the contract that you sign to get into the school? Every private school is different.

They probably have some code of ethics which is clear as day about what is and what isn't acceptable. Yuri's only case would be to argue his first amendment rights have been violated. A twitter case likely being unprecedented would probably help his cause.
 

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They probably have some code of ethics which is clear as day about what is and what isn't acceptable. Yuri's only case would be to argue his first amendment rights have been violated. A twitter case likely being unprecedented would probably help his cause.

I don't think you fully comprehend the first amendment. Nothing in the Bill of Rights prevents a private school from censoring a student.
 

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I don't think you fully comprehend the first amendment. Nothing in the Bill of Rights prevents a private school from censoring a student.

People have sued for far less than 1st amendment violations and won. It happens every day. I'm not saying he SHOULD or SHOULDN'T lawyer up. All I'm saying is that there is a potential case for him here. But thanks for attempting to belittle my opinion. Must feel great.
 

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I don't think you fully comprehend the first amendment. Nothing in the Bill of Rights prevents a private school from censoring a student.

Yup.

People have sued for far less than 1st amendment violations and won. It happens every day. I'm not saying he SHOULD or SHOULDN'T lawyer up. All I'm saying is that there is a potential case for him here. But thanks for attempting to belittle my opinion. Must feel great.

Nope.
 

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People have sued for far less than 1st amendment violations and won. It happens every day. I'm not saying he SHOULD or SHOULDN'T lawyer up. All I'm saying is that there is a potential case for him here. But thanks for attempting to belittle my opinion. Must feel great.

Learn the difference between private and public (i.e. government) when it comes to the First Amendment.
 

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Learn the difference between private and public (i.e. government) when it comes to the First Amendment.

Must you speak condescendingly in every one of your posts towards me? Have I don't something to personally offend you??

And by the way, while this is a private school, unless what he tweeted was about the school or done on the school's time, I don't believe that this is a black and white case. Twitter and the internet is largely unprecedented. Let's not forget that he had his account set to be private. One could argue that this would be the equivalent of expelling him because of something that was written in his diary/journal.
 

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Just wonder if there was a way he could talk to the school and apologize and show he deleted his Twitter account. Perhaps they could turn this on appeal into a Temporary Suspension as opposed to an Expulsion. Might make a lot of difference for him. But he would have to be compelling in his talk with the school. If it comes off as arrogant and not sincere, wont work out for him.
 

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And by the way, while this is a private school, unless what he tweeted was about the school or done on the school's time, I don't believe that this is a black and white case. Twitter and the internet is largely unprecedented. Let's not forget that he had his account set to be private. One could argue that this would be the equivalent of expelling him because of something that was written in his diary/journal.

He doesn't have a constitutional claim against his school because the First Amendment only restrains government action. Thus, it applies to public schools but not private schools. A private school could absolutely expel someone for something written in a diary/ journal.

Edit: Yuri would have a very hard time winning a lawsuit against Don Bosco. If he's so inclined, he'd likely have more success contacting someone like Al Sharpton and turning this into a racial PR disaster for the school.
 
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He doesn't have a constitutional claim against his school because the First Amendment only restrains government action. Thus, it applies to public schools but not private schools. A private school could absolutely expel someone for something written in a diary/ journal.

Did not realize that. Thank you for calmly explaining that to me in a manner that did not manage to also attempt to devalue my (apparent lack of) knowledge of constitutional law.
 

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Maybe we need a constitutional law thread. Yuri isn't going to sue anybody. He'll be retired before that got settled.
 
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false... there were a lot of racial comments in that post. maybe 99% of African American kids who happen to live in a less than stellar neighborhood think like Yuri. If you honestly think every teenage male thinks like this, you must watch too many gangsta movies. His comments were quotes for a rapper representing what is "hood." This is how the media tells African American teenagers to act, especially if you dont have steady guardians.

The first paragraph of this post is ignorant. I have serious doubts that you would know the first thing about being an African American teen in a "less than stellar neighborhood." I can tell you that it's not one monolithic experience as portrayed in the "gangsta movies" that you cite as a pitfall for basing a judgment. While I agree that not EVERY teenage male thinks the way that Yuri has expressed, for you to wrap it all up as a condition of rap music and the "hood" experience is falsely convenient. I'm not trying to be vitriolic for the mere sake of it, but what Yuri did is common among all boys and not just those who grow up in so-called bad environments. Which by the way, why are you assuming Yuri did?
 

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There is no Constitutional Law issue, no Free Speech issue. Private school like others have said. The best option available to him is a personal plea to the school to apologize, show he is sincere and sorry, and try to Appeal to have the Expulsion reduced to merely a Temporary Suspension. Maybe a week and then he returns. Best bet for him at this stage.
 

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does anyone a link to his comments, or a summation of what he said? I find a million articles saying how horrible his tweets were, but cant any reference to those tweets anywhere...
 

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This is really bad. If the Irish can't get Ronald Darby back, then we're SOL.

I couldn't disagree more.

First off it is a good thing this came to light BEFORE this kid arrived on campus and starts spreading this kind of crap and polluting the room with that sort of attitude. Let the Criminal Colleges of the SEC recruit those guys...we don't need that here.

Secondly, while Darby returning to the fold would be ideal, Anthony Standifer is visiting this weekend and I think he is a good bet to commit. In all honesty, I have liked Standifer's football skills every bit as much as Wright's. He certainly fits the profile that Diaco has established for a corner. He does not have track star speed, but he has good coverage skills and a high football IQ plus he plays the run VERY well.

The staff would be foolish to ignore those tweets...they are a sign of real trouble. And btw, a First amendment lawsuit is a pretty ridiculous consideration since Notre Dame does not have to explain why it pulls or extends a scholarship offer.

I think the only way this kid should be allowed in the door is if he meets with our coaches and explains satisfactorily that these tweets are an off-target joke and issues an apology on twitter as well as a public announcement of apology through whichever news service he wishes to speak to. Then he drops his twitter account and goes silent. If during the meeting the kid adopts any gansta attitude pull the offer and move on. An empty chair is better than on filled with that kind of poison attitude.
 

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does anyone a link to his comments, or a summation of what he said? I find a million articles saying how horrible his tweets were, but cant any reference to those tweets anywhere...

Every post in this thread that alluded to the comments were deleted, so your best bet is to keep Googling.
 

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does anyone a link to his comments, or a summation of what he said? I find a million articles saying how horrible his tweets were, but cant any reference to those tweets anywhere...

Google yuri wright tweets
 

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I couldn't disagree more.

First off it is a good thing this came to light BEFORE this kid arrived on campus and starts spreading this kind of crap and polluting the room with that sort of attitude. Let the Criminal Colleges of the SEC recruit those guys...we don't need that here.

Secondly, while Darby returning to the fold would be ideal, Anthony Standifer is visiting this weekend and I think he is a good bet to commit. In all honesty, I have liked Standifer's football skills every bit as much as Wright's. He certainly fits the profile that Diaco has established for a corner. He does not have track star speed, but he has good coverage skills and a high football IQ plus he plays the run VERY well.

The staff would be foolish to ignore those tweets...they are a sign of real trouble. And btw, a First amendment lawsuit is a pretty ridiculous consideration since Notre Dame does not have to explain why it pulls or extends a scholarship offer.

I think the only way this kid should be allowed in the door is if he meets with our coaches and explains satisfactorily that these tweets are an off-target joke and issues an apology on twitter as well as a public announcement of apology through whichever news service he wishes to speak to. Then he drops his twitter account and goes silent. If during the meeting the kid adopts any gansta attitude pull the offer and move on. An empty chair is better than on filled with that kind of poison attitude.

And who exactly are you calling a criminal?
 

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Every post in this thread that alluded to the comments were deleted, so your best bet is to keep Googling.

I found a couple comments about "learning about the p****...." but those didnt seem to so inflammatory as everyone is eluding (young, stupid, and ignorant maybe). please tell me there was more graphic/racial/inappropriate comments other than that....I havent found any racial comments yet...
 

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Here's an article by Varsity Aces, a NJ reporter who follows high school football:

Scoops on Football: Yuri Wright Expelled

The Fab Four is no more. Don Bosco expelled Yuri Wright after school Wednesday, apparently for tweets he made on his twitter feed.


This was an interesting day. I received word that Yuri Wright had been expelled from Don Bosco around 9 a.m. and tried to make some phone calls to see if it was true. No one was answering the phone at Bosco. I texted a teammate and he wrote back to say he couldn’t really talk about it.

A few hours later, a story off of a Michigan recruiting blog said that the school had backed off of recruiting Yuri because of some definitely X-rated tweets. And you know, I follow a bunch of kids on twitter, Im sure I had seen the tweets, but, to be honest, I had seen plenty of things like this before. And Facebook is even worse….This speaks to a whole new issue in sports and social media, because kids go on there and say stuff and they don’t know everyone is watching.

Around 4 p.m. Bosco coach Greg Toal called me back and confirmed basically that Yuri was expelled and it was because of the tweets. His quote to me was “Don Bosco had to do what Don Bosco had to do.” Toal said he really liked Yuri and hoped that this didn’t ruin his college future.

I don’t know what (if any) connection there is to the Michigan recruiting story to Yuri being expelled, but the timing is definitely curious. When we talked before the U.S. All-American Bowl, Yuri had told me he was down to 4 schools, Rutgers, Notre Dame, Colorado and Michigan. Honestly, I thought all along he was going to Notre Dame. He and Shumate are good friends and I figured he was going to follow his friend there.

Now, here is what I would say about Yuri. The kid I got to know is a nice young man, but I definitely saw a rough side once, I was at a practice last year and saw Yuri get into a fight with another player in practice. He was made to stay after and do a lot of conditioning. He had also had some issues playing basketball at Bosco I believe. In fact, he had never really gone out for football much until after sophomore year. That was another reason why his potential seemed so vast. And the football coaches loved him. They knew he had Division 1 ability and was smart. I talked to a couple of other Bosco coaches on staff tonight and they are all saying the same thing, they are sorry.

But the school had no choice. You read the tweets (they are still out there, but I’m not going to link to it here) and they are wrong on a lot of levels. He should have know that.

I would say 2 other things about Yuri, one game, I think it was maybe Mission Viejo, I tried talking to him on the bench after the game. He was extremely downcast, even though his team had won 35-7, but he was disappointed because the 1 touchdown was over him. And down in Manatee, he was the man in coverage on that late touchdown that was a terrible call. It just seemed like he couldn’t catch a break and he took every failure to heart.

Still, he was an excellent player. Long arms, great ball skills, you see now all of these basketball players in the NFL now (like Saints TE Jimmy Graham) and they can just go up and get the ball like a rebound. That was Yuri.

Yuri was kind enough to do a diary for me before the All-American game and I have to tell you, of the 5 kids, he surprised me the most with what he had to say. I had to edit a bunch of what the guys wrote, but Yuri….I didn’t really, and he was the first one to ask if he could give a “shoutout” to his friends and family. And once he did that, all of the other kids who did a diary wanted to follow.

I don’t know where Yuri goes now….Spring Valley HS? I’m sure he will get a full ride to a good college. Talent can’t be denied. But like Toal said today, Don Bosco had to do what it had to do.
 
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Yuri would fit in at Florida....

Nah, Urban Liar is no longer there...all the thugs are slowly falling off the roster. if Yuri comments are as bad as most are eluding to, then ironically I think he's Michigan-Man material.
 

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He doesn't have a constitutional claim against his school because the First Amendment only restrains government action. Thus, it applies to public schools but not private schools. A private school could absolutely expel someone for something written in a diary/ journal.

Agree completely, and the issue really is this simple. A public school could not touch this situation from a student disciplinary standpoint because it did not occur during school-sanctioned events or on school equipment, nor is there any reasonable concern of the situation spilling into the school and causing a disruption. These are the thresholds for public schools in such a situation if they wanted to administer discipline of any sort. Private schools, on the other hand, can easily do so.
 
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