[NCAAF] vBook: Alabama vs LSU Official Thread

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I just looked up all of Alabama's starters recruiting profiles and saw that NONE of the had received a offer from ND, Stanford, Wake Forest and Duke. Only 2 had been offered by scUM which to a lesser extent takes academics into consideration. I never though we were at that much a disadvantage but after seeing this ... Wow
 

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Upshaw is raw. Their defense moved to the ball very quickly. I cannot get over their speed and size. Crazy the Tigers got shut out.
 

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Never seen such an AMAZING performance in a championship game defensively wow!
 

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bama's d looked great last night and they played with a fire and under control at same time. They just locked lsu down and they actually made field goals in this game.
 

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re: jordan jefferson

i dont think (insert any NFL/college Hall of fame QB name here) could have done anything against that bama defense.

WOW

glad my giants arent playng them sunday
 

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@slmandel:

Alabama finished the season allowing 8.2 points, 183.6 yards. Modern gold standard '01 Miami: 9.4 ppg, 270.9 yards.

We just witnessed the greatest defense of the BCS era.
 

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@slmandel:



We just witnessed the greatest defense of the BCS era.

A defense that played an average of the 92nd ranked offense from game to game...

ALL YEAR that was the average offense this team played... 92nd ... not one time was this team challenged defensively all year... to put it another way the two best offenses this team played were Arkansas and Georgia Southern...

just sayin... little persepctive.
 
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A defense that played an average of the 92nd ranked offense from game to game...

ALL YEAR that was the average offense this team played... 92nd ... not one time was this team challenged defensively all year... to put it another way the two best offenses this team played were Arkansas and Georgia Southern...

just sayin... little persepctive.

Good point. According to Football Outsiders, most of the offenses 'Bama faced were decidedly average (62/120 in FBS).

But LSU and Arkansas finished the season with the #2 and #12 offenses respectively. 'Bama held them to 12 (Ark), 9 (LSU) and 0 (LSU).

Their PPG and YPG are still misleading in light of their schedule.
 

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Like I said, not to say this wasn't a great D... but the stuff I am hearing about best ever... best in the BCS era... this and that...

no, best this year is more fitting, if for no other reason than they played nobody with any kind of explosion...
 

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LSU locker room speech

It starts at 0:16

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This pretty much sums it up for me.
(Written by Dan Treadway)

FWD: Best BCS Championship Game Ever! Can't Believe They Bought It!

From: Bill Hancock (DollarBill@BCSfootball.org)
To: ESPN, Vizio, Tostitos, Discover, Allstate, UniversityPresidents.listserv, The1percent.listserv

Subject: Best BCS Championship Game Ever! Can't Believe They Bought It!

They totally bought it!

I don't know how we did it, but we once again convinced America our system determines the legitimate national champion and they just... went with it.

I know I tell you guys this all the time, but I love you.

When I took over as Executive Director of the BCS in 2009, I knew I'd have my work cut out for me. It's a remarkable challenge to make people believe that our system can definitively select the two best teams in college football year in and year out without utilizing the obvious alternative of a playoff. Honestly, without your consistent support, I know there is simply no way I could pull it off -- particularly this year. Without a doubt this was a team effort all-around, guys.

As many of you know, this year we had our most difficult sell since we gave borderline division II football school UConn a spot in the Fiesta Bowl. We had to somehow market and sell the idea that people should watch a rematch of LSU and Alabama, with the victor being definitively declared the national champion. I know we were worried about the media pointing out the hypocrisy in how we legitimize our system by claiming the regular season serves as a playoff, but then rationalized awarding a rematch of a game that occurred in the regular season. But fortunately talks of boycotting the game never picked up steam. I guess there are a few perks to selling the broadcasting rights to our games to the nation's main source for college football news ;-) Loooove you, ESPN.

I mean, when we can use arbitrary rules and measures to prevent smaller, less lucrative schools from playing in our bowl games, that's great. But when we're able to convince the nation that a school that didn't even win their division within their conference is somehow the best team in the nation... Well guys, that's why I got into this business.

Going into the game we were working from behind as a result of ESPN going just a little overboard in November calling the first match up between LSU and Alabama "The Game of the Century" when it turned out to be not even the best game in its time slot. Making people believe that the same teams would produce a more exciting game the second time around after spending weeks collecting rust leading up to the contest was a tough sell. But it seems that when we puts our collective powers together, we can get the public to watch anything.

Seriously, did you watch the game on Monday night?

Anything.

We all know what went down in the Superdome had all the intrigue of Meatloaf night at Shady Grove retirement home, but the commitment we showed to acting like this was a great defensive stand-off rather than an offensive calamity was nothing short of Oscar worthy.

Let me take a moment to give particular praise to the work of Brent Musberger during the game, who going into the fourth quarter managed to make the idea of LSU crossing the 50-yard line on offense a compelling plot line. With The Bachelor two-hour special in full swing, Brent knew something had to be done to keep viewers glued to this glorified do-over and the man who has made his life's work in blowing moments out of proportion had his finest hour. In other good news, I actually received a call from the people at Guinness in the middle of the second quarter informing me that Mr. Musberger had set a new World Record for mentions of the term "Honey Badger" in a single nationally televised broadcast at 1,312. Double congratulations, Brent!

Also another well-deserved shout out goes to our producers who managed to give out our "Allstate Good Hands" plug/award despite the fact their were few things good and even fewer things related to hands in this game. Despite this, quick thinking on their part allowed them to give the distinction to Alabama quarterback A.J. McCarron for the "good hands" he displayed while holding field goals. Seriously. And I'm pretty sure people bought it! But either way, we got that Allstate logo on the air, so way to go guys!

Hold your heads high, gentlemen. Tonight we truly gave America a game that nobody (between Tuscaloosa and Mobile) will ever forget.

And what I'm most proud of is how we did a great job staying on message immediately following the game by not even bothering to question the idea of naming Alabama the undisputed champions despite the fact that they only split the season series with LSU.

University Presidents, I know you're now going to face the same questions about installing a playoff in college football but remember to just stick to the same talking points I gave you in that memo before the season:

--"We're going to have discussions and look out for the best interests of the University."
--"It's something that I have had deep considerations about thinking about the possibility of maybe considering bringing up to our regents."
--"No comment."

Remember to just rinse and repeat all off-season until next September when everyone's team is undefeated again and fans forget about the fact that the vast majority of schools cannot play in the national championship game even if they go undefeated by virtue of the set-up of the current system.

Now I know this doesn't need to be said, but we all know why we need to keep this system in place. There just aren't really any enterprises left in our capitalistic society that allows the ownership to earn revenue without paying the talent that generates it. The scholarship racket is the best thing we got going, but please try to play down your low graduation rates a little better this off-season. We need to make it look like the majority of football players at major programs are at least getting a marketable degree out of this or the public may stop watching college sports.

Hahahaha, just kidding.

Love,

Bill Hancock
Executive Director, Bowl Championship Series


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We all know what went down in the Superdome had all the intrigue of Meatloaf night at Shady Grove retirement home, but the commitment we showed to acting like this was a great defensive stand-off rather than an offensive calamity was nothing short of Oscar worthy.
And what I'm most proud of is how we did a great job staying on message immediately following the game by not even bothering to question the idea of naming Alabama the undisputed champions despite the fact that they only split the season series with LSU.

:rofl::eek:grin:
 
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From a poster on 247, could be BS but still found it interesting:

Just received this e-mail:

"I just heard this from a friend with ties to the LSU athletic department. I am not sure if it is true or not but a lot of the pieces fit. Apparently about 3 hours before the game T-Bob Hebert, Russell Shepard and 2 other receivers and a hand full of linemen got into a heated argument with Les Miles and the Offensive Coordinator about Lee getting more playing time and possibly starting the BCS Championship game. It got so heated that Miles benched T-Bob and RS and 3 other players. He called Lee into his office and told Lee that he would not be playing in the game. The OC told Miles that he thought that Lee gave the team the best chance to win the game. Miles told the OC to start looking for a new job after the game and Miles will be calling the plays for the championship game. Apparently the O Line sided with T-Bob and Lee and did not give their all in the game to prove to Miles that the players are more important then the coach. Now I know that this is hard to believe but when you look at some things it kind of explains a few things: I will list some. Read option pass on 3rd and 10 4 times. Running the same 5 plays over 90% of the game. Horrible play calling. Running the ball in the 4th quarter down by 21. T-Bob not taking a snap. RS only playing 3 snaps and not hardly touching the ball or getting looked at. Lee getting off the bus and walking 10 feet behind the team with his head down and looking dejected. Heated argument between receivers and Jordan Jefferson and O Line with O line coach on sidelines. And another player reports that 2/3rds of the plays practiced were not run and the players were not told why. Again I do not know if this is entirely true but there seems to be a lot of truth in it just by seeing what happened."

From what I understand WR's Russell Shepard, Rueben Randle and Kadron Boone all declared for the draft the day after the game and as of yesterday another WR is now tranferring to Auburn (I think). There has been a ton of information coming out of Baton Rouge the last past couple days.

Just thought some of you would be interested in this. Take it for what you will.
 

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Very interesting. That would explain a lot about LSU's flop in the championship game.

If LSU continues to melt down between now and NSD, maybe Kiel will have second thoughts...
 

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Very interesting. That would explain a lot about LSU's flop in the championship game.

If LSU continues to melt down between now and NSD, maybe Kiel will have second thoughts...

I see what you did there and i like !!!
 

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Very interesting. That would explain a lot about LSU's flop in the championship game.

If LSU continues to melt down between now and NSD, maybe Kiel will have second thoughts...

I agree. I was wondering why they didn't give Lee a chance to at least get the offense moving. Jefferson was terrible and it was obvious early that he was not going to have a very good night. They had no problem switching the two the last game against Bama so it kinda puzzled me why they didn't give Lee a series or two. If this is true than it sounds like an absolute mess in Baton Rouge. Also, I am pretty sure the OC is the one who recruited Kiel but I may be wrong.
 

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I agree. I was wondering why they didn't give Lee a chance to at least get the offense moving. Jefferson was terrible and it was obvious early that he was not going to have a very good night. They had no problem switching the two the last game against Bama so it kinda puzzled me why they didn't give Lee a series or two. If this is true than it sounds like an absolute mess in Baton Rouge. Also, I am pretty sure the OC is the one who recruited Kiel but I may be wrong.

Not doubting you just wondering why we haven't been hearing about this from ESPN and the like?
 

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You mean the, SEC IS THE GREATEST CONFERENCE EVAR!!!!!!1111111 narrative?

That's the one!

ESPN owns the SEC's broadcasting rights. That's why they never mention Saban screaming at his players on the sideline, but Kelly's purple-face vs. USF was the top story for a whole week.
 

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That's the one!

ESPN owns the SEC's broadcasting rights. That's why they never mention Saban screaming at his players on the sideline, but Kelly's purple-face vs. USF was the top story for a whole week.

Also ESPN friken filmed LSU's bus ride to New Orleans from a helicopter. Who gives a crap? Honestly. It's a college football team riding on a bus.
 

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That's the one!

ESPN owns the SEC's broadcasting rights. That's why they never mention Saban screaming at his players on the sideline, but Kelly's purple-face vs. USF was the top story for a whole week.

Should I feel dirty that I own Disney stock? Im leaning in that direction.
 
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