Lsu vs Alabama rematch?

[jason_h537]

How many times do the best team win the championship? Were The Giants really better than The Patriots? The point is they lost when it mattered. Bama lost when it mattered.

You can't use the LSU>Oregon>Stanford because some teams match up better than others. If thats the case USC>Oregon>Stanford right? Except USC lost to Stanford

 

[greyhammer90]

The fact of the matter is that LSU & Alabama are the 2 best teams in the land.

Hard to know that when all they play is each other. LSU beat Bama. It should beat someone else. Otherwise the big blockbuster winner take all BIG "game of the century" meant nothing. 0. Zip. It's not about who I want to see... it's about how stupid this system is that it can survive by claiming "season long playoff" and "every game counts" and yet a game of that weight that decided the conference meant NOTHING in deciding the national championship. (except of course making the road that much tougher for the team that WON it.)

 

[DillonHall]

You have to consider the loss for each 1-loss team. It sucks that Bama gets another chance at LSU, but no one else grabbed the opportunity and lost to bad teams.

 

[jason_h537]

You have to consider the loss for each 1-loss team. It sucks that Bama gets another chance at LSU, but no one else grabbed the opportunity and lost to bad teams.

Stanford lost to Oregon. Name 10 schools who would not lose that game? Hell name 6 schools? If it is down to VTech, Bama, and Stanford, I would vote for Stanford. I also bet that would be a hell of a game.

 

[jason_h537]

Hard to know that when all they play is each other. LSU beat Bama. It should beat someone else. Otherwise the big blockbuster winner take all BIG "game of the century" meant nothing. 0. Zip. It's not about who I want to see... it's about how stupid this system is that it can survive by claiming "season long playoff" and "every game counts" and yet a game of that weight that decided the conference meant NOTHING in deciding the national championship. (except of course making the road that much tougher for the team that WON it.)

Exactly. Bama beat Penn ST and played LSU tough. The other "great" team in the SEC, Arkansas, had two tough games and got blown out in both.

LSU vs Stanford. I wanna see that. You think Stanford would be intimidated or pushed around?

 

[maison bleu]

It's just not fair to LSU to have them play Alabama again. Why?

Because LSU played a schedule 10x harder than Alabamas... and went undefeated... and beat Alabama head to head.... so now we're going to sit here and say "yeah, we know LSU already beat you IN YOUR OWN HOUSE, has a much better resume, won your half of the conference, and would have a better on-paper resume than you even if you beat them.... but we'll go ahead and give you a mulligan and if you win you get a trophy you don't deserve."

I just sincerely hope that if Alabama beats LSU in the national championship that the AP still has the stones and common sense to vote LSU #1.

Assuming LSU beats Georgia, the only logical thing to do is just hand them the crystal football and cancel the BCS Championship game... We'll have a parade for LSU in New Orleans that night instead.

Lulz, I know it's never gonna happen, but

 

[theclassickiller]

Really, first game was garbage?

I guess big, fast, nasty defenses that fly around and knock heads off don't interest you guys?

Maybe they should leave LSU out and have Oregon take on OklaSt.

Is that the same LSU big, fast, nasty defense that got lit up by WVU to the tune of 533 total yards including 463 through the air?

The SEC is all run defense, no offense. They don't even have to defend the pass because there is no team that can do it aside from Arkansas. It's just garbage TV.

Sure the defenses are good, but they are greatly overrated. Go look at the schedules of LSU and Alabama. The teams outside of the SEC actually put up good yardage and points on them, but people are asking if they're the greatest defenses of all time. What? Pitt held WVU to 200 yards less total offense than LSU and the same total points, but no one even talked about that.

Wake up people. The SEC is good because ESPN says they are. They don't play anyone worthwhile out-of-conference and when they do they get exposed by vastly overrated teams like WVU. They wouldn't have won the title 2 years ago if it wasn't for Colt McCoy going down. And they wouldn't have won the title last year if Alabama could defend the pass against Auburn (and if they didn't pay players, but yeah). Bob Stoops can't coach big games. Ohio State should have never been there.

The SEC gets where they are by the perception of the conference. It's just like the Big-12. Nebraska was just soooo good that they were going to join the B1G and romp through the season reaching the first championship game because last year they reached the Big-12 championship game with the same team and lost to #9 Oklahoma by 3. Yeah, well news flash. Michigan just beat the same team 45-17.

It's all perception. Anyone who thinks those defenses are truly that superior to other conferences is just feeding the hype.

 

[theclassickiller]

How many times do the best team win the championship? Were The Giants really better than The Patriots? The point is they lost when it mattered. Bama lost when it mattered.

You can't use the LSU>Oregon>Stanford because some teams match up better than others. If thats the case USC>Oregon>Stanford right? Except USC lost to Stanford

I like the ND >>>>> Navy = South Carolina > Georgia.

So whatever Georgia does against LSU, ND would have done way better than that.

Although...

Anyone with a quarterback who isn't regressing > ND right now...

So it looks like LSU vs. ND would probably be a pretty even matchup right now. I'd have to go with ND 12-8 in this one. Four safeties for LSU, one which was caused when a fan yelled too loud and blew Tommy over. And one touchdown for ND with a missed PAT, two made field goals from 57 yards and 64 yards, both into the wind, and also 5 missed FGs within the 10 yard line.

 

[DillonHall]

Stanford lost to Oregon. Name 10 schools who would not lose that game? Hell name 6 schools? If it is down to VTech, Bama, and Stanford, I would vote for Stanford. I also bet that would be a hell of a game.

Did you watch Stanford vs. Oregon? Stanford is not the second best team in the nation, Alabama is. It's not about who you want to see; it's about which two teams are the best in the nation.

 

[jason_h537]

Did you watch Stanford vs. Oregon? Stanford is not the second best team in the nation, Alabama is. It's not about who you want to see; it's about which two teams are the best in the nation.

Alabama may be the 2nd best team but they lost to LSU. Just like in playoffs, the better teams sometimes lose. They don't get a mulligan. Another team deserves a shot.

That is the point of this argument. If Bama had lost a game but did not play LSU, then I would be for it. The problem is they already lost to LSU so why should they get another shot?

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

Alabama may be the 2nd best team but they lost to LSU. Just like in playoffs, the better teams sometimes lose. They don't get a mulligan. Another team deserves a shot.

That is the point of this argument. If Bama had lost a game but did not play LSU, then I would be for it. The problem is they already lost to LSU so why should they get another shot?

I agree with your second paragraph. But, the fact is that it's not a playoff system so we have to deal with crap like this. The BCS thinking is that LSU is the best team and yes Bama has a loss but it's a "better" loss than any other 1 loss team.. It sucks and I hope for a playoff system eventually (which will also have its issues).

 

[phork]

Is that the same LSU big, fast, nasty defense that got lit up by WVU to the tune of 533 total yards including 463 through the air?

The SEC is all run defense, no offense. They don't even have to defend the pass because there is no team that can do it aside from Arkansas. It's just garbage TV.

LSU also cause 5 turnovers that game. Really can't see your point here. They pounded the crap out of every ranked team they played. And there was many of them. I get the cupcake deal, I do. But they are far and away the best team in the country. I would bet them 10 out of 10 times on a neutral field all day long.

The SEC does suck. 7 out of 13 BCS champions are from the SEC. Including the last 6 straight.

Alabama may be the 2nd best team but they lost to LSU. Just like in playoffs, the better teams sometimes lose. They don't get a mulligan. Another team deserves a shot.

That is the point of this argument. If Bama had lost a game but did not play LSU, then I would be for it. The problem is they already lost to LSU so why should they get another shot?

They get another shot because the BCS rankings are supposed to put the 2 best teams in the country against each other. LSU and Bama are the 2 best teams in the country.

 

[jason_h537]

They get another shot because the BCS rankings are supposed to put the 2 best teams in the country against each other. LSU and Bama are the 2 best teams in the country.

No the BCS is supposed to pit the #1 and #2 ranked team against each other. That is it. Whether or not those are the two best teams really does not fit into the equation. Like I have said multiple teams. The best team does not always win. ND 93, Miami 02, USC 04 was not in the BCS game. Oregon in 01 was much better than Nebraska and got shafted.

Even with a playoff system, the best team comes up short sometimes. The season is sold as a playoff and in a playoff Alabama is out. Give Stanford, VTech, or OK St a chance if they are all 1 loss teams over Bama.

 

[phork]

No the BCS is supposed to pit the #1 and #2 ranked team against each other. That is it. Whether or not those are the two best teams really does not fit into the equation. Like I have said multiple teams. The best team does not always win. ND 93, Miami 02, USC 04 was not in the BCS game. Oregon in 01 was much better than Nebraska and got shafted.

Even with a playoff system, the best team comes up short sometimes. The season is sold as a playoff and in a playoff Alabama is out. Give Stanford, VTech, or OK St a chance if they are all 1 loss teams over Bama.

You are showing your hypocrisy here. The season is sold as a playoff, you are right. Stanford got hammered by the team that LSU hammered to start the year. VTech lost to a Clemson team that is falling apart at the seams. And OKSt lost to a 6-6 team. They each had their shot and wet the bed. So out of a one loss grouping of those teams, the 2 best teams (rated or otherwise) are LSU and Bama.

 

[military_irish]

I heard this argument before. 2006 #1 Ohio st played #2 Michigan. The score was completely different than the LSU/Alabama game. It was 42-39.

They did not have a rematch and guess what they both were blown off the field but when they played everyone thought they were the #1 and #2 teams in the nation.

You never know what can happen.

 

[jason_h537]

You are showing your hypocrisy here. The season is sold as a playoff, you are right. Stanford got hammered by the team that LSU hammered to start the year. VTech lost to a Clemson team that is falling apart at the seams. And OKSt lost to a 6-6 team. They each had their shot and wet the bed. So out of a one loss grouping of those teams, the 2 best teams (rated or otherwise) are LSU and Bama.

Hypocrisy? As i stated earlier, you can not do the LSU beat Oregon because USC beat Oregon who lost to Stanford. What I do know is of all the 1 loss teams available. Bama lost to LSU. Stanford has not, neither has VTech, or Oklahoma ST.

You can vote Bama #2 in the final polls but that does not mean they deserve a second chance when they already had there shot.

 

[greyhammer90]

Once again, any football championship system that does not include a playoff is stupid. Just plain, good old fashioned stupid. and it disgusts me that the greatest division of the greatest sport on earth has put it's championship game in the hands of the people who came up with the worst idea since the solar powered night light. The BCS is a joke, it was a joke this year, it was a joke last year (TCU undefeated), it was a joke in 06 (Auburn undefeated), it has yet to . It has yet to do anything good for college football except accelerate the downturn of the sport into something that ESPN can pimp between their ads for five hour energy and their reports on the latest insipid tweet from Lebron James.

 

[greyhammer90]

1999: 1 loss no. 3 Kansas State passed over for BCS play by no. 4 OSU and 2 loss Flordia.

2001:Flordia St. chosen to play Oklahoma despite their loss coming from Miami who was another 1 loss team. Miami had lost to Washington (who was also 1 loss).

2002:Nebraska plays for national title game despite being ranked No. 4 in both human polls and not winning their conference.

2004: Oklahoma, LSU, and USC all finish the season with 1 loss. USC is snubbed.

2005: 5 undefeated teams. Auburn tigers, Utah Utes, Boise St., USC, Oklahoma.

2007: Undefeated Boise State and 4 one loss teams Louisville, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Florida all jockey to play OSU in the NC game. Florida is selected, all others snubbed.

 

[greyhammer90]

2008:2 loss LSU jumps from #7 to #2 after beating Tennessee in the SEC championship. Over undefeated Hawaii

2009: 1 loss Florida vaults over undefeated Utah, Ball State, and Boise St. Other representative is chosen by the BCS due to a three way tie in the Big 12. Oklahoma was ranked higher. Texas and Texas Tech got to stay home.

2010: Despite beating the dog crap out of eventual pac 12 champion Oregon. Undefeated Boise St. is passed over as is undefeated Cincinnati and TCU.

2011: TCU passed over by Oregon and Auburn despite going undefeated and winning their BCS bowl.

2012:... and the beat goes on....

 

[PJWhitfield]

Forgive me for straying a bit off the subject, but LSU vs. Alabama would be a much more interesting game if college football still allowed ties. After 6-6, the next game would've been a true showdown. Now it just seems awkward. I say bring back the tie and get rid of that goofball overtime contraption.

 

[irishfan]

So OK State is up 44-3 with 2 mins left in the 3rd quarter. They've got my vote for #2. I used to think it was Bama at 2, but OK State is changing my mind right now. Anyone else?

 

[military_irish]

I honestly think it would be a more interesting game if Oklahoma St were to play LSU.

 

[CanadianIrishFan306]

I honestly think it would be a more interesting game if Oklahoma St were to play LSU.

Yeah #1 Offense vs Top Defense is far more better to watch then #1 Defense vs #2 Defense.

 

[4irishnation]

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Wins vs current BCS top 25 teams: OSU has 5 wins to Alabama's 2 #stateurcase

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Wins vs FBS teams with winning records: OSU has 7 and Bama has 3

Has to be OSU!

 

[irishtrain]

I guess those other teams shouldn't lose? Bamas only loss was to LSU... You know, the #1 undefeated team in the land? By 3 points...



Yah I don't get it. We have been so devoid of defense in SouthBend I guess we forget what it really is.

I'd rather see Oak State/LSU. This whole thing has an aroma I dont like. Why should the SEC reap 30 million in revenue when there are other 1 loss teams. They just have the best media representation and scream the loudest. Those southern boys are laughing all the way to the bank. The SEC is the best conference AND the most over/rated conference at the same time. Alabama played 3 teams with a winning record this year. OSU played 7 teams with a winning record and beat 5 ranked teams.

 

[NDPhilly]

I hope OSU goes for two reasons. 1. Bama can't win a NC and 2. Michigan will play Bama in the Sugar Bowl which would be VERY fun to watch.

 

[tadman95]

I would prefer LSU vs OSU. Bama had their chance, lost at home. OSU lost on the road in double OT in the midst of a tragedy.

A LSU vs Bama rematch is .......yaaaawn, BORING

 

[IrishLax]

The crazy thing is how not hard Alabama's schedule has actually been....

3 total wins over FBS teams with winning records... one of which is 7-5 Auburn. The others are Arkansas and Penn State. That means 8 of their 11 wins are over FCS teams or teams with a .500 record or worse.

 

[phork]

I'm voting for OSU as well. I think they did all they could do to get in. Hopefully voters agree.

PS: Even though I think Houston would have beat Michigan, I am glad that if UM goes they now have to play a real team and will get stomped thusly.

 

[Veer option]

Betting heavily on the under.