2011 Herbie Awards: ARE YOU KIDDING?!

[FightingIrishLover7]

Top players, coaches, team fans honored in Herbie Awards - ESPN

Kirk is ridiculous and insulting...

No Michael Floyd in the Top 5 WRs... But yet he's in his 1st team all conference?

No Manti on any of the Top 5 categories... BUT he's om the 1st team as a DEFENSIVE LINEMAN???

What is this, NO other mentions of ND...

This has to be a joke.

 

[Cali_domer]

It is Herbie what do you expect.

 

[rtrn2glory]

herbie is a jack@ss plain and simple...probably the worst thing ohio has produced in its history

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

How do you place someone on 1st team WRs (three slots), but not in your top 5?

That's idiotic.

 

[Cali_domer]

How do you place someone on 1st team WRs (three slots), but not in your top 5?

That's idiotic.

It is called ESPN(Herbie) logic

 

[clashmore_mike]

To be fair to Herbstreit, it isn't an All American team. It's his all uni team, which means players that look the best in their uniforms.

 

[Cali_domer]

To be fair to Herbstreit, it isn't an All American team. It's his all uni team, which means players that look the best in their uniforms.

Haha, lame.

 

[theclassickiller]

To be fair to Herbstreit, it isn't an All American team. It's his all uni team, which means players that look the best in their uniforms.

I can't bring myself to believe that's what he means. When he says "what a college team should look like" I take it as "here's the prototype players you want at each position." And if I'm not mistaken, Jeffery, Blackmon, Fuller, Floyd, and Criner are all around the same size.

So even though they are all go-up-and-get-it big men who have great hands and good speed, the others are all better than Floyd in his opinion. But also, in his opinion, a team should take Floyd over the other guys. Makes sense Herbie.

I'm just glad he took the stupid "best restaurant in the world (of Ohio)" off of this ridiculous, asinine list.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

The dude has the FSU secondary in the best position groupings, ahead of the Alabama secondary. Regardless of his omission of anything ND, that is a complete joke.

Also why does Burfict consistently get more love than Manti? Dudes never broken 100 tackles, hits his teammates as often as he does opposing players, and does not impact the game the way Manti does.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Also why does Burfict consistently get more love than Manti? Dudes never broken 100 tackles, hits his teammates as often as he does opposing players, and does not impact the game the way Manti does.

Boggles my mind. Te'o is superior to Burfict in every way, and yet Burfict keeps getting AA picks ahead of #5.

 

[hrc08]

He's still got his pantys in a wad since we Domers hurt his wee lil feeling last season when he had to "apologize" for being wrong about the defense.

 

[hrc08]

BTW: He's picked Iowa and UCLA to play intheir respective conference championship games so lets not forget to remind him of that if he's proven.

 

[kmoose]

You gals are starting to sound like all of those other fans of college football. "We don't get any respect!!!", etc.

To he!! with Herbstreit, ESPN, SI, The Republican Party, and the KGB. As long as the team plays like we hope they will, the END OF SEASON (the ones that count, remember?) awards lists will be overflowing with Blue and Gold.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

You gals are starting to sound like all of those other fans of college football. "We don't get any respect!!!", etc.

To he!! with Herbstreit, ESPN, SI, The Republican Party, and the KGB. As long as the team plays like we hope they will, the END OF SEASON (the ones that count, remember?) awards lists will be overflowing with Blue and Gold.

I just think its appalling he would have manti at DL. It's most likely a mistake, but a terrible, unprofessional mistake.

 

[kmoose]

I just think its appalling he would have manti at DL. It's most likely a mistake, but a terrible, unprofessional mistake.

Probably not even Herbie's work. Probably a mistake by some intern. Herbie's "big enough" that he probably doesn't do his own typing.

 

[mgriff]

Well have you guys seen the video? He says five wins are a lock, and that's generous. He predicts 8-4 for us this year.

Biggest Challenge Facing Brian Kelly - ESPN Video - ESPN

That should get plenty of you fired up!

 

[kmoose]

I think Herbie made a good point, about managing expectations. And I don't think he was dissing on ND, at all. He repeatedly mentioned that there are no gimmes on ND's schedule. He qualified his overall prediction of 8-4, with an "against this schedule............". I don't have any problem with it. Now, if ND comes out and crushes USF, handily beats Michigan, hammers MSU.......THEN you will see people starting to really believe.

 

[ToledoGoIrish]

Well have you guys seen the video? He says five wins are a lock, and that's generous. He predicts 8-4 for us this year.

Biggest Challenge Facing Brian Kelly - ESPN Video - ESPN

That should get plenty of you fired up!

I laughed as i watched that this morning too, Herbie n Desmond will never change.....

 

[PLACforever]

He needs to stop frosting his tips, the chemicals are seeping into his brain.

 

[koonja]

To be fair, when is the last time ND has overachieved? I can't blame them for predicting 8-4. If I were an analyst with no bias towards ND I would predict something around that number. USC, Stanford, MSU, Navy/Michigan (we can't seem to beat lately) will all be tough games.

 

[Veer option]

G.D, Herbstreit sucks.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

What's Herb's beef with us?

I mean at least Gotlieb has a reason to be ticked, although Doug is a guilty thief.

 

[kmoose]

What's Herb's beef with us?

I mean at least Gotlieb has a reason to be ticked, although Doug is a guilty thief.

Why do you think he has a beef with us?

 

[IrishInFl]

Is Herbie worse than Mark May at this point?

 

[bert2834]

I don't think he said anything bad at all.

He is being realistic.

We do have a rough schedule.

 

[irishff1014]

At the end he did say that we would be 8-4 thats not horrible.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Boggles my mind. Te'o is superior to Burfict in every way, and yet Burfict keeps getting AA picks ahead of #5.

Burfict is a better NFL prospect than T'eo IMO, and I think that's why he gets so much love, so these guys can brag about how they "discovered" a 5 star juggernaut everyone knew was going to be a beast. Lame.

*Burfict's attitude is his best and worst enemy.

 

[rikkitikki08]

He had some solid points, i will admit that but i really believe he just isnt a fan of the ND program

 

[kmoose]

He had some solid points, i will admit that but i really believe he just isnt a fan of the ND program

tOSU fans have been known to say the same thing. Herbstreit is pretty unbiased. He usually tries to find something good to say about whatever team he is talking about. But he's not afraid to be critical, when it is warranted.

 

[jason_h537]

Wow you guys are a bunch of little girls.

Let me see. He Puts Te'o and Floyd as All-Americans. He then says that ND's arrow is pointing up but its a tough schedule so he can't say more than 8 wins. Kelly is a great coach and they will be back with him.

Tell me what is wrong about any of that?

AA honers is not enough praise for Te'o and Floyd? ND's recent history has warranted a better prediction than 8-4?

You are a bunch of babies. Herbie is one of the best in the business. You are still upset about the High School defense. Guess what the Irish got embarrassed by Navy and the coaches knew it too.

Respect isn't given, it is earned