Sheldon Day and John Turner on ESPNU Saturday at 4 EST

[sportallyr]

Nice job sniffing out the draw by Day on that one.

 

[IrishLax]

I disagree. That kid was practically on the ground and Day didn't let go of his head. He did stop, but way too late and, in my opinion, it was the right call.

Then we agree to disagree. I'm rewatching it right now on my DVR at full speed and he isn't even grabbing his helmet... he has a hand full of jersey. Helmet rolls off way after Day has let go... and only then does the ref decide to throw a flag.

 

[MacIrish75]

Turner just got abused and outran by Kevin Davis of WC

 

[calvegas04]

Errr... id trade Turner this week for Dieter

 

[sportallyr]

Turner just got beat badly on a bomb and probably cost his team a chance to come back and win. Haven't been very impressed with Turner at all today. Day is a beast though!

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Turner just got abused and outran by Kevin Davis of WC

That was pretty ugly. Decent recovery speed and pursuit angle to make the tackle though.

 

[MacIrish75]

They've had Turner matched up on an (obviously) faster man in Davis, all day. Turner is not a corner.

 

[IrishLax]

They've had Turner matched up on an (obviously) faster man in Davis, all day. Turner is not a corner.

Yeah, which is bummer to me because I'd really like to see him play the run a little and make some tackles. Seems he's been in coverage and off the screen all day.

 

[Riddickulous]

Turner actually had good coverage, he just did a poor job adjusting to the badly underthrown ball.

 

[MacIrish75]

Nothing to do with either Turner or Day, but has anyone else noticed that WC's oline is, for the most part, just a bunch of obese titty-fighters? They don't get off the line for anything and Buckley has to create half his yards for himself.

 

[Irish2155]

I'm not real impressed with John Turner...dude looks slow

 

[calvegas04]

horrible play calling

 

[Riddickulous]

Overall, I wasn't very entertained today.

 

[GreatGolson]

great game.. very dissapointed. but cathedral is a whole class below them.

 

[IrishLax]

Turner actually had good coverage, he just did a poor job adjusting to the badly underthrown ball.

This is true. I don't really understand any hate on Turner, but yeah... I definitely wish I could've seen him being more aggressive and making more plays.

I liked what I saw from Day overall. Really cool to see these guys on TV.

 

[MacIrish75]

*cough* should be a multiplier *cough*
@ GreatDayne

 

[notredomer23]

Turner really worries me. I know he is not a corner, he is more of a safety or LB, but he hits like a girl and shies away from contact. I'm not saying I don't want him at ND because all those things are coachable, but right now, i am a little perplexed

 

[Rocket89]

I'm so glad we recruited Steven Titewey.

 

[IrishLax]

Turner really worries me. I know he is not a corner, he is more of a safety or LB, but he hits like a girl and shies away from contact. I'm not saying I don't want him at ND because all those things are coachable, but right now, i am a little perplexed

Along those lines, yeah I'm sure he can be coached up to play more aggressive... but perplexed is a good wood. Wouldn't you rather take an athlete like Darboh or a player like Schutt with that scholly?

But whatever, I'm no coach. I doubt anyone thought little Javier Arenas who had offers from nowhere could be developed into a stud CB in the SEC. But Saban took a chance on him. Here's to hoping Kelly is making the right call. I just wish he showed more of an inclination to fly around and hit somebody.

 

[notredomer23]

Along those lines, yeah I'm sure he can be coached up to play more aggressive... but perplexed is a good wood. Wouldn't you rather take an athlete like Darboh or a player like Schutt with that scholly?

But whatever, I'm no coach. I doubt anyone thought little Javier Arenas who had offers from nowhere could be developed into a stud CB in the SEC. But Saban took a chance on him. Here's to hoping Kelly is making the right call. I just wish he showed more of an inclination to fly around and hit somebody.

Well said. I put all my trust in Kelly on this one. I don't mind if there is one or two "projects" in each class as long as we are still recruiting at a high level

 

[Epitome]

Turner really worries me. I know he is not a corner, he is more of a safety or LB, but he hits like a girl and shies away from contact. I'm not saying I don't want him at ND because all those things are coachable, but right now, i am a little perplexed

I remember watching Prince Shembo on TV a couple of years ago. I never expressed it; but thought, How the Heck is this guy a 4 Star? He looked like he was moving in slow motion. Sometimes we need a little more than a game to form our opinions.

 

[GreatGolson]

*cough* should be a multiplier *cough*
@ GreatDayne

sorry, what?

 

[The Gold Helmets]

Great Dayne. I was looking for a huge Irish flag in the crowd didn't see it. Ha. I sit on the Cathedral side to the left of the 50 around the 25 yard line.

I think Cathedral looked like the better coached team, but WC had too many athletes. Despite popular opinion on this board I think Turner is going to be fine, he is a good looking athlete. Sheldon Day looked pretty good. I think he is going to be a good one.

Check out my final write up on the blog

 

[Whiskeyjack]

ISD reviewed Turner's and Day's performance in this game:

Sheldon Day needs to redefine his body, i.e. he's a definite redshirt. Quick burst off the ball, as advertised. Plays very hard. At the high school level, it's a joke when teams attempt to run at him and block him with one lineman. Not going to work! Day plays in a one-gap, get-up-the-field, cause havoc scheme. It's similar to FSU/Miami circa 1990. That's another reason to believe Day will need an adjustment year to learn a completely different scheme (at least a different scheme when ND lines up in a traditional 3-4 defense).

Long term, I see Day's best attribute as being the designated 3rd down interior DL pass rush specialist. He's really good at making interior OL look really bad buy getting off the snap of the ball and using his hands to disengage from the offensive lineman. The down side is I'm not sure he's going to be a traditional "nose guard" in terms of taking on two OL and just stuffing the run. At least today, that was not Day's strength. He' needs work at taking on double teams, but Cathedral's OL is well coached and pretty big. Day played Defensive End during a handful of plays, and he's capable of causing trouble for the opposition from that position as well. As long as Day redefines his body (he'll weigh 300-pounds, easily), Day can be a great player at ND, especially during pass rush situations.

This ISD reporter thinks Day was recruited as a NT, which is odd considering Day has confirmed on video that he was recruited as a SDE.

John Turner continues to baffle me. He runs effortlessly, but he does not always seem interested. I'm still puzzled as to why he plays cornerback in HS because teams just run away from him. But what do I know?Turner showed a much higher propensity for contact today than he did last week, but he still only entertained a few chances to make a tackle because Warren Central is an old school down-hill running team. Further, Cathedral continued to play cover 3 and lax coverage in general. While Turner can certainly run (extremely fast for a 210-pound athlete), there's no definitive way to measure his pass coverage skills because of Warren's limited passing offense. Buckley, the Warren RB, broke a long run and possessed the best angle to the end zone. Turner still ran him down. Buckley is a future D1 running back (committed to Cincinnati). He's not chopped liver. Long term I still believe Turner ends up at safety or possibly linebacker, but he's such a good athlete he could be a hybrid player that the Notre Dame coaching staff moves to different positions depending on the opponent, down and distance, time in the game, etc. Hard to find athletes that run like Turner.