'11 NJ RB Savon Huggins (Rutgers Verbal)

[jason_h537]

I want to see what Roberson has to offer since he was a 4* last year.

*cough* CALI *cough*

 

[ndcoltsfan2010]

Bottom line is this as far as I am concerned. I would love to see either Amir or Savon in Blue and Gold or both. Both kids could help us in the future.

 

[Ricochet]

I want to see what Roberson has to offer since he was a 4* last year.

He's a big back that will have a role on this team in the near future but the depth at RB is getting slim with Allen and Hughes gone and Jonas Gray in a Sr. next season, so RB is very much a need.

Cam McDaniel is more all purpose back rather an out and out RB and I don't think when it's said and done that he will be a slot WR.

It would be nice to get a featured RB in this class because for depth reasons 2 are already going to be needed for the 2012 recruiting class.

 

[Ricochet]

Honestly would pefer Amir, and that is not my Cali favoritism either. Just feel Amir is better suited for our system

Both are really needed and they are so different that there is really no conflict other than the possibility of available scholarships.

Amir is an awesome fit for the offense I agree and the best fit of the 3 remaining schools vying for his services but once again he's not that out and out type of RB and ND needs some of those as well as the like of Amir.

Amir is a lot like Reggie Bush especially at the NFL level in that he's really a man without a true position. Some will take this the wrong way as Bush hasn't had the best NFL career because IMO far to often they've made him be more of a traditional RB who also gets some PT as a WR.

Player like this are often wasted as they are not in the right system to truly take advantage of there talents.

Amir should be listed as a play-maker rather than as a RB or WR though like Bush I see more WR skills rather than RB skill but never the less he's a special that can easily be wasted if not used properly. Give Amir to an innovative coach like a Bill Walsh and they will shine but give him to a great coach that is more conventional and he will be good and have awesome highlights but many will look back and see that he never came close to his potential.

Have a talent like Amir and you create a play-maker position that who's position is fluid between the RB and WR position. I would have him in motion all the time. I'm a big believer at the college level to overwhelm teams with as many looks as possible because all to often athleticism plays more of a role than IQ, strength and technique than it does at the next level. IMO the more you show as long as you can execute it the more honest they have to play because they have to think more than can react and every little bit of hesitation helps.

There is a difference between good receiving RB's and what Amir is. They are truly different beasts and as I said before Amir is a player-maker more than he is a WR or RB.

As for Huggins, he's also a great fit for ND but maybe less so for him as he like the traditional FB/RB tandem. He's extremely good but his game will never be sexy, you know great for highlights and whatnot. He's a high-end grinder that will never get appreciated until he's gone. IMO he's a great compliment to Wood and would form an awesome 1-2 punch at RB. There styles are so different and ND could give different looks to change up the way defense are playing them. But they would compliment each other as well by being on the field together with some multiple RB formations.

Both are awesome for very different reasons and if you take both you do.

 

[rtrn2glory]

If we happen not to land a feature back, though, it could in a way benefit us for 2012. With our lack of depth we could become much more attractive to land a guy or two like Barry's kid that could come in and contribute as Freshmen with Cierre and Roberson with a couple years of eligibility left and perhaps McDaniel with some experience.

 

[Ricochet]

I hear what your saying and there is truth to that but ND is going to take 2 feature backs next regardless. Missing out would be a real blow because ND is couple of injuries away from having to move Riddick having to move back to RB.

Right now there is only Wood, Gray, Roberson and Cam McDaniel.

That is not good depth at all. Roberson and McDaniels are unknowns and Roberson was originally recruited as a FB. Gray has the physical tools and has yet to put it together and has been a fumbling machine.

Wood has the potential to be special but he can't be the only one.

 

[nd1]

article from bleacher report. sounds pretty good for nd



Savon Huggins, a 5-star running back, is deciding between Notre Dame, Rutgers and North Carolina as National Signing Day approaches.

With less than three weeks before the New Jersey native is likely to make his decision, we have to wonder where he'll end up.

Huggins has taken his official visits to Notre Dame, North Carolina and Auburn, and his father calls those his finalists, according to a Scout.com report.

As he hails from the Garden State, Rutgers is hopeful to land Huggins, who has excelled at St. Peter's Prep right under the Scarlet Knights' collective nose.

Despite recruiting in the northeast, Rutgers does have a decent class. With 4-star recruits Al Page and Miles Shuler, the Scarlet Knights could see a major improvement if they do gain the commitment of Huggins.

However, going up against perennial powers Notre Dame and North Carolina, which have both put together impressive recruiting classes, is not the best bet for a Big East school that went 4-8 last year.

Notre Dame has a host of 4-star recruits and an extremely talented class, but it lacks a running back of Huggins' stature. With tight end Ben Koyack and wide receiver DaVaris Daniels, both 4-star recruits, the Irish provide Huggins with extremely talented support from him to grow as a runner over the next few years.

North Carolina, meanwhile, has an excellent class already and has gained the commitment from 4-star running back Travis Riley. The Tar Heels' offensive additions are as impressive as those at Notre Dame, but Riley would likely compete with Huggins for carries, dropping the values of both prospects.

In the end, expect Huggins to commit to Notre Dame. Combined with this year's improvements and another solid recruiting class, the tradition the Irish carry will be too much for Huggins to turn down.

 

[Irish Man3]

Bleacher Report = GARBAGE!

 

[WhoDeyIrish]

article from bleacher report. sounds pretty good for nd



Savon Huggins, a 5-star running back, is deciding between Notre Dame, Rutgers and North Carolina as National Signing Day approaches.

With less than three weeks before the New Jersey native is likely to make his decision, we have to wonder where he'll end up.

Huggins has taken his official visits to Notre Dame, North Carolina and Auburn, and his father calls those his finalists, according to a Scout.com report.

As he hails from the Garden State, Rutgers is hopeful to land Huggins, who has excelled at St. Peter's Prep right under the Scarlet Knights' collective nose.

Despite recruiting in the northeast, Rutgers does have a decent class. With 4-star recruits Al Page and Miles Shuler, the Scarlet Knights could see a major improvement if they do gain the commitment of Huggins.

However, going up against perennial powers Notre Dame and North Carolina, which have both put together impressive recruiting classes, is not the best bet for a Big East school that went 4-8 last year.

Notre Dame has a host of 4-star recruits and an extremely talented class, but it lacks a running back of Huggins' stature. With tight end Ben Koyack and wide receiver DaVaris Daniels, both 4-star recruits, the Irish provide Huggins with extremely talented support from him to grow as a runner over the next few years.

North Carolina, meanwhile, has an excellent class already and has gained the commitment from 4-star running back Travis Riley. The Tar Heels' offensive additions are as impressive as those at Notre Dame, but Riley would likely compete with Huggins for carries, dropping the values of both prospects.

In the end, expect Huggins to commit to Notre Dame. Combined with this year's improvements and another solid recruiting class, the tradition the Irish carry will be too much for Huggins to turn down.

Sounds good but like the guy said above me bleacher report is pretty unreliable.

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

hey- even a blind squirel can find a nut once in a while.

 

[rtrn2glory]

I hear what your saying and there is truth to that but ND is going to take 2 feature backs next regardless. Missing out would be a real blow because ND is couple of injuries away from having to move Riddick having to move back to RB.

Right now there is only Wood, Gray, Roberson and Cam McDaniel.

That is not good depth at all. Roberson and McDaniels are unknowns and Roberson was originally recruited as a FB. Gray has the physical tools and has yet to put it together and has been a fumbling machine.

Wood has the potential to be special but he can't be the only one.

personally, i dont think that the staff is too worried about that. right now it seems like the only two rb type players they're chasing are Huggins and Carlisle, which you can consider two game changing prospects that you have to go after regardless of depth at the position. With that said I don't think they are bent on taking another rb in this class just to add depth if they don't think that prospect is worth taking a scholarship away from next year's class.

 

[Irish Man3]

Diaco visited Huggins yesterday

 

[Ricochet]

personally, i dont think that the staff is too worried about that. right now it seems like the only two rb type players they're chasing are Huggins and Carlisle, which you can consider two game changing prospects that you have to go after regardless of depth at the position. With that said I don't think they are bent on taking another rb in this class just to add depth if they don't think that prospect is worth taking a scholarship away from next year's class.

I agree that they aren't just going to take any RB just to add depth, they want quality depth, but what I was trying to say is that not getting one this year is going to put that much more pressure on get multiple top quality RB's in 2012.

There looking to add 2 RB's in 2012 regardless of what happens with Huggiins and Carlisle.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

bleacher report also had an article yesterday with a bold prediction of lynch ending up at F$U...poop

 

[bert2834]

Everyone forgets about Cam McDaniel, we already have a RB for this class.

Although I would love to see us land either Huggins or Carlisle.

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

Yes CAM is going to kick butt! He is a steal for sure....

 

[JDAtlanta]

He forgot to mention,

He forgot to mention,

article from bleacher report. sounds pretty good for nd



Savon Huggins, a 5-star running back, is deciding between Notre Dame, Rutgers and North Carolina as National Signing Day approaches.

With less than three weeks before the New Jersey native is likely to make his decision, we have to wonder where he'll end up.

Huggins has taken his official visits to Notre Dame, North Carolina and Auburn, and his father calls those his finalists, according to a Scout.com report.

As he hails from the Garden State, Rutgers is hopeful to land Huggins, who has excelled at St. Peter's Prep right under the Scarlet Knights' collective nose.

Despite recruiting in the northeast, Rutgers does have a decent class. With 4-star recruits Al Page and Miles Shuler, the Scarlet Knights could see a major improvement if they do gain the commitment of Huggins.

However, going up against perennial powers Notre Dame and North Carolina, which have both put together impressive recruiting classes, is not the best bet for a Big East school that went 4-8 last year.

Notre Dame has a host of 4-star recruits and an extremely talented class, but it lacks a running back of Huggins' stature. With tight end Ben Koyack and wide receiver DaVaris Daniels, both 4-star recruits, the Irish provide Huggins with extremely talented support from him to grow as a runner over the next few years.

North Carolina, meanwhile, has an excellent class already and has gained the commitment from 4-star running back Travis Riley. The Tar Heels' offensive additions are as impressive as those at Notre Dame, but Riley would likely compete with Huggins for carries, dropping the values of both prospects.

In the end, expect Huggins to commit to Notre Dame. Combined with this year's improvements and another solid recruiting class, the tradition the Irish carry will be too much for Huggins to turn down.

Auburn has one of this years best Freshman running backs and UNC is going to get absolutely hammered by the NCAA for violations.
Other than those small nits, the article is fine.

 

[Irish Man3]

Auburn has one of this years best Freshman running backs and UNC is going to get absolutely hammered by the NCAA for violations.
Other than those small nits, the article is fine.

I think Marcus Lattimore had a better freshman year than Dyer. Other than that, as far as Auburn's depth chart and UNC's potential penalties, neither of these are secrets and Savon is still considering both heavily. The report doesn't say much about Auburn in general, therefore there isn't an overwhelming need for a depth chart run down.

The article is exciting for an Irish fan but you must take EVERYTHING published on Bleacher Report with a grain of salt because they are notoriously inaccurate and misleading.

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

My take on Bleacher is that they try to be the first one to report news...well that takes a lot of gut feeliing articles not based on any data.

 

[bigedefense]

Yes CAM is going to kick butt! He is a steal for sure....

Don't know a lot about Cam's personality, but it is my hope that he is seeing all of this near panic because of Amir and or Huggins. Just looking at the surface, he played in a football copetitive state and I would be willing to bet that he is very competitive. That being said, most are forgetting about him when talking of us getting a running back. Maybe, hopefully, this puts some grit in his craw and he has the attitude of showing that he is the feature back the we need, we just didn't know it. Off topic I know, not a lot about Savon, and I hope he does come to ND, but I don't want it to overshadow someone that has already committed to ND.

 

[WabashFalcon]

Bleacher Report = ZERO credibility.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Bleacher Report has negative credibility. It's garbage.

 

[ndftbl]

Diaco time?

Diaco time?

Sounds like time for another 4:30 am meeting, to me.

Is Superman (aka Diaco) in the area?

 

[irishpat183]

Don't know a lot about Cam's personality, but it is my hope that he is seeing all of this near panic because of Amir and or Huggins. Just looking at the surface, he played in a football copetitive state and I would be willing to bet that he is very competitive. That being said, most are forgetting about him when talking of us getting a running back. Maybe, hopefully, this puts some grit in his craw and he has the attitude of showing that he is the feature back the we need, we just didn't know it. Off topic I know, not a lot about Savon, and I hope he does come to ND, but I don't want it to overshadow someone that has already committed to ND.

He didn't play in a "competitive state", he played in THE MOST competitive state. High School football down here is a whole different animal. 10,000+ isn't outta the ordinary on a friday night. My senior year, I played in front of 25,000 in a rivary game. Felt like a college game with the band and volume of the crowd. Texas high school football is awesome.

I think Cam will handle everything just fine. He doesn't have that entitlement attitude that you see so many guys come into a program with. He's already competed with the best of the best and knows what it takes. I think he'll step up and be a solid guy for the next 4 years.

 

[Rocket89]

You guys do know the expressed purpose of Bleacher Report right?

It's not ESPN, Sports Illustrated, or the New York Times and it does not wish to be so. It's a network where fans can share their opinions, in a lot of ways, just like Irish Envy.

This is particularly true for the ND section, where for the most part it is a collection of 5 or 6 writers sharing their opinons on Irish football.

Sure there are some bad stuff there, but where isn't there? I see ridiculous posts and crazy comments from people here, should Irish Envy lose all credibility?

Being close to the B/R community I can tell you there are many fine college football writers. That's why it kind of irks me that people think it has no credibility or is a joke. I mean, nearly every single website throws out rumors and gets things wrong all the time. No one ever gets stories 100% correct, ever.

NDFANnSouthWest said, "My take on Bleacher is that they try to be the first one to report news...well that takes a lot of gut feeliing articles not based on any data."

That's not true, at all really. B/R reacts to news and tries to predict things just like SBNation, FanTake Network, and others. It's just B/R is the biggest one out there so it has more of a bullseye on it.

If you go into an article at B/R (or FanTake or SB Nation) and think it's automatically being written by someone who just had a sit down with Brian Kelly, travels around the country scouting, or is a paid full-time college football analyst, then that's your fault.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

If you go into an article at B/R (or FanTake or SB Nation) and think it's automatically being written by someone who just had a sit down with Brian Kelly, travels around the country scouting, or is a paid full-time college football analyst, then that's your fault.

Thanks.

Most men, when they think they are thinking, are merely rearranging their prejudices.
Knute Rockne

There are no shortcuts in life - only those we imagine.
Frank Leahy

 

[bigedefense]

He didn't play in a "competitive state", he played in THE MOST competitive state. High School football down here is a whole different animal. 10,000+ isn't outta the ordinary on a friday night. My senior year, I played in front of 25,000 in a rivary game. Felt like a college game with the band and volume of the crowd. Texas high school football is awesome.

I think Cam will handle everything just fine. He doesn't have that entitlement attitude that you see so many guys come into a program with. He's already competed with the best of the best and knows what it takes. I think he'll step up and be a solid guy for the next 4 years.

While I agree with you about Cam, I can't say that Texas is the MOST competitive state. That is open to interpretation. I am sure that several states would like to argue that theirs is just as competitive. I do not disagree, just didn't want to come off sounding that Texas was head and shoulders above other states. Passion is found in every state. I look forward to seeing Cam proress and hopefully work with Savon daily in practice.

Meanwhile, back at the hall of Justice....Do we have any clues as to what Savon is going to do?

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

You guys do know the expressed purpose of Bleacher Report right?

It's not ESPN, Sports Illustrated, or the New York Times and it does not wish to be so. It's a network where fans can share their opinions, in a lot of ways, just like Irish Envy.

This is particularly true for the ND section, where for the most part it is a collection of 5 or 6 writers sharing their opinons on Irish football.

Sure there are some bad stuff there, but where isn't there? I see ridiculous posts and crazy comments from people here, should Irish Envy lose all credibility?

Being close to the B/R community I can tell you there are many fine college football writers. That's why it kind of irks me that people think it has no credibility or is a joke. I mean, nearly every single website throws out rumors and gets things wrong all the time. No one ever gets stories 100% correct, ever.

NDFANnSouthWest said, "My take on Bleacher is that they try to be the first one to report news...well that takes a lot of gut feeliing articles not based on any data."

That's not true, at all really. B/R reacts to news and tries to predict things just like SBNation, FanTake Network, and others. It's just B/R is the biggest one out there so it has more of a bullseye on it.

If you go into an article at B/R (or FanTake or SB Nation) and think it's automatically being written by someone who just had a sit down with Brian Kelly, travels around the country scouting, or is a paid full-time college football analyst, then that's your fault.

No offence Rocket...my point was merely that BR is cutting edge info and sometimes gets a "feel" for what is going on and there is nothing wrong with that. I personally like BR and read it daily...so I am a fan.

 

[Rocket89]

No offence Rocket...my point was merely that BR is cutting edge info and sometimes gets a "feel" for what is going on and there is nothing wrong with that. I personally like BR and read it daily...so I am a fan.

It's no problem, just had to say my piece

 

[acerider8]

Any latest word on this kid? I know it would be a major upset at this point for ND to pull down this committment, but I think it works to our benefit that he seems to be waiting until National Signing Day. With Carlisle (sp?) going to USC, Kelly can make one last push for Huggins.

A lot of things can change in the final few weeks. However, RB seems to be one position where we have decent depth (Wood, Gray, Robinson, McDaniel, even Riddick) so it wouldn't be the end of the world if we fail to get him. Locking down those big bodies on Defense was a huge priority and Kelly did an amazing job there...