Oct 23 | Notre Dame at Navy

[RallySonsOfND]

Come hit up our tailgate. We'll be the biggest one I'm sure. Just look for the Cheerleaders, Leprauchan, and Pipes and drum band!

Awesome man! Sounds like it will be a good time.

 

[Riddickulous]

My prediction: Notre Dame 28, Navy 14.

 

[irishtrain]

This game always bothers me as I want to destroy them but have so much respect for the service guys. Anyway maybe I will picture them as chippy, and a little too big for their britches to build up some steam against them. Lately they have been tough and I dont like the feel of this game. Like Pittsburgh I want to be wrong. Kelly may be the difference in this game. He wont be outcoached.

 

[IrishLax]

Notre Dame 38 Navy 7.

Speaking of which... if anyone is looking for tickets to the game drop me a PM.

 

[IrishInColumbus]

With the assumption that Theo Riddick is out and Armando Allen is at best 80%, Notre Dame won't be as powerful as they could be offensively.

I don't see Navy having success in the interior, but Notre Dame's OLB's need to come out and dominate. Notre Dame will probably come out in that 5-2 look.

I'm not too worried. Notre Dame handed them the game last season, I don't see Notre Dame doing it again with Brian Kelly screaming all of the time.

 

[Anchorman]

With the assumption that Theo Riddick is out and Armando Allen is at best 80%, Notre Dame won't be as powerful as they could be offensively.

I don't see Navy having success in the interior, but Notre Dame's OLB's need to come out and dominate. Notre Dame will probably come out in that 5-2 look.

I'm not too worried. Notre Dame handed them the game last season, I don't see Notre Dame doing it again with Brian Kelly screaming all of the time.

Not sure I'd go with the 5-2 against the TO.


Should be a very fun game to watch.

 

[ndcoltsfan2010]

Hoping we win this game by at least two touchdowns. I am thinking 31-17 Irish win.

 

[tko]

hoping the chop blockers don't take out any of our players. sadly, b/c they serve our country, the refs won't call a single penalty for blocking below the waist. lighting candles in my mind that nobody gets hurt and their coach can suk it.

 

[Anchorman]

hoping the chop blockers don't take out any of our players. sadly, b/c they serve our country, the refs won't call a single penalty for blocking below the waist. lighting candles in my mind that nobody gets hurt and their coach can suk it.

Cut blocks are not chop blocks.

You don't have to like them, but the blocks are legal. Just about every college football team utilizes them at some point. Navy and the other SAs do more than most because they equalize some of the size differences on the line. There was one lame block last year, and it was called. But let's not pretend that defined the game.

Not sure what you have against Niumatalolo unless we're going back to the Corwin Brown thing.

 

[IrishLax]

Why are we assuming Theo is hurt? I thought he only had a minor injury

 

[IrishLax]

Nevermind... sounds like Riddick is more hurt than I thought. That really sucks even minor injuries hamper a guy whose game is speed and agility. We need him for Utah.

 

[Irish Rogue]

hoping the chop blockers don't take out any of our players. sadly, b/c they serve our country, the refs won't call a single penalty for blocking below the waist. lighting candles in my mind that nobody gets hurt and their coach can suk it.

They are very dirty. I will never forget in the 90's when Ron Powlus broke his arm against Navy and the Clown LB for Navy cheering after observing powlus down. They are just as bad as any other team, case in point the ridiculous late hit last year against ND. Military guys can be just as dirty as the rest, they should not get any pass for dirty play.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Regarding the Navy team so far this year: the triple option is still scary, but it doesn't seem to be operating as smoothly as in years previous. Navy is winning games defensively and by the somewhat unusual method of causing turnovers---they are something like plus seven, which mainly comes on recovering fumbles. They have also intercepted four passes. The fumble recoveries seem to have played a pretty large role in their success as they have given up a fair amount of yardage but keep teams out of the end zone. They have probably played only one all-around game so far, vs SMU, the last one. Notre Dame will probably have a fist-fight on its hands for four quarters, but if we do not turn the ball over, the rest of the record so far says we should win. I don't usually like cliches, but in this case it really does seem that the team with better ball security wins.

 

[phork]

ND 42 Navy 13

 

[mick2]

ND 42 Navy 13

yesss, somebody said it. we need to get on these guys bad, and never let up.

 

[The Polish Irishman]

Vegas has us -7. I'll go with 35-17 Irish.

 

[mick2]

i just hope we can have another game without too many tense moments, like western michigan, granted navy is better than western michigan.

heres a play by play.

i say we jump out to a quick 21-0 lead, go into halftime 28-7. Navy will start the 3rd with a td drive eating a bunch of clock to bring it to 28-14 we respond quickly with a td drive and the ensuing navy possession is stopped by a turnover and another quick score, bringing it to 42-14 at the end of the 3rd. second teamers take it from there and navy scores window dressing td, total outcome 42-21.

 

[ndcoltsfan2010]

i just hope we can have another game without too many tense moments, like western michigan, granted navy is better than western michigan.

heres a play by play.

i say we jump out to a quick 21-0 lead, go into halftime 28-7. Navy will start the 3rd with a td drive eating a bunch of clock to bring it to 28-14 we respond quickly with a td drive and the ensuing navy possession is stopped by a turnover and another quick score, bringing it to 42-14 at the end of the 3rd. second teamers take it from there and navy scores window dressing td, total outcome 42-21.

I'd be a happy camper in this scenario. I don't like those tense moments at all. lol. It would be nice to watch the game and not get the blood pressure to high.

 

[lookingdeadred]

ND struggles to contain Navy at the start

ND struggles to contain Navy at the start

but imposes its will on the Middies in the 2nd half and wins by two TDs.

 

[Anchorman]

I'll take Navy by six. I'd say eight, but we don't have Craig Schaefer anymore

Be interesting to see how Te'o plays. Navy's offense is pretty unkind to talented MLBs.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Which talented MLB do you want to pick on? ND runs a 3-4 which is a 5-2 - "A rose by any other name . . .” And I tell you how you crush Navy. Their linebacker corps is mostly gone. We have two tight ends that can play. Off tackle, counters, then play action. Throw in front of that safety until he comes in then, go long.

As far as our defense: I have it from a little birdie, that for the option offense, our defense is locked and loaded this year. Big time! They know the option well. And it is less multi-dimensional with the personnel losses Navy has had; they have no big play man trailing their dynamic quarterback.

I don't know. I look at their schedule this year, and I don't see the quality wins. If they have a ten-win season this year, which is doubtful, it is because the schedule is much weaker.

I am not sure Navy is a better team than Western Michigan. If Notre Dame plays the option on defense the way I think they will, and comes in with a sound offensive strategy, and this week is another step forward, I expect the results will be in line with last weeks game.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

PS. and the 3-4 gives an extra man advantage for the defense at the point of attack for the option offense. As far as the inside option, I am okay with Ian Williams. In fact, if Ian Williams alone had been coached up and conditioned like this year, ND may have won by 10 last year! Think about it.

 

[Irish Rogue]

Please do not forget this chicken $$$$ hit.



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[Bogtrotter07]

Back in the day, when I was playing offense, after the play was whistled dead, I had someone on the defense do something like that to me on the way back to the huddle. I got his number, didn't say a word, but found him downfield on the next play, stepped on both of his feet as he tried to escape, drove both of my fists under his helmet, and extended my arms as I drove him into the ground. They carried him off the field unconscious. The pecker-head almost ended my senior season, and as it turns out, those guys are never as good at taking it as dishing it out. I hope they show that play a hundred times!

 

[tko]

the United States Chop Blocker Academy. this game is going to be a blowout. ND by 24.

 

[Old Man Mike]

WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN GOOD BALL SECURITY THOUGH. Turnovers are the only thing keeping Navy respectable this year, and they seem to be good at causing them. Cierre PLEASE hold onto the ball! You too Dayne!----if we don't fumble, I believe that this game will be a fairly controlled win. A prayer to St.Anthony (patron of finding lost items [like fumbled footballs] )will be one of my gameday priorities.

 

[GDomer09]

Please do not forget this chicken $$$$ hit.



I don't know what's worse the late hit or the 5 plus chop blocks on that one play!!!!

Hey, Anchorman Navy's Offense isn't kind to any D players!!! Glad we have Tulsa
after them & not Utah, we're going to need time for all our injuries to heal up!

 

[Bogtrotter07]

From the injury thread:

Quote:
Originally Posted by jason_h537
Michael Floyd will likely not start but can play in an "emergency"

Theo Riddick could be out for a a week or two

Jamoris Slaughter will likely not start

Taylor Dever is out as well

Armando Allen seems ok to go

Starting WR will likely be Goodman, Kamara, and TJ in the slot
So Kamara, Goodman, Jones and Eifert and possibly a gimpy AA...oh boy...Will there be a Deon Walker sighting also?

Here it comes. Double tight end set; Pistol and some other exotic things like a power running game. Kamara’s blocking as a wide receiver. Cierre Wood and Robert Hughes running. I am telling you. It is a deal you can count on. The line will be good enough. It will look like a different ND team.

I believe Kelly is saving the gimpy players from cheap shots, risking further injury. I also believe there is a ringer in the group. Someone is ready to play, (like Dever), and no one is broadcasting it. Makes Navy’s preparation slant just a bit off kilter.

 

[Anchorman]

Please do not forget this chicken $$$$ hit.



I don't know what's worse the late hit or the 5 plus chop blocks on that one play!!!!

Hey, Anchorman Navy's Offense isn't kind to any D players!!! Glad we have Tulsa
after them & not Utah, we're going to need time for all our injuries to heal up!

Nobody said football was kind to the body

As said, Navy cut blocks a lot. Cut blocks being completely legal and utilized by every football team.

The Blanton hit was lame, and the penalty was assessed. Don't act like that's a common occurrence.

WRT to being loaded to the option, that's what we heard last year

With regard tot he slotbacks, not sure where you're getting your info on them being down this year. We have a packed depth chart of playmakers there.
Last year the slotbacks only accounted for 37 yards on six carries. Fullbacks and QB picked up over three hundred. Will be interesting to see how ND prioritizes them. We've also been passing a bit more this year, and Greg Jones is still around.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Vegas is incredible at picking spreads. Just look at the last 2 weeks. Vegas was on the money for both games! I thought this line would be higher, but if Vegas says -7 then I believe them (and I know they put the line out there to get the most action and blah blah blah...bottom line is they know what they hell they are doing). Thing is, if we win by 7, the nation will mock us and every ND message board will meltdown, forgetting that Navy is a well coached football team that gives most teams they play fits. And this is their Super Bowl.

As for our midshipman poster "AnchorMan", you'll get a lot more leeway here from people b/c of their respect for our armed forces, but you'll still get a lot of people disagreeing with you. However, guys, he's right. He's heard these same things the past 3 years, and we're wrong every single time. One win out of 3 that got way too close at the end, and 2 embarrassing losses. Unbelievably...Navy owns us right now.

The difference is Brian Kelly. I don't expect this team to come out flat at all. He won't let them. And if they do, he'll get after them like he did last week. What concerns me is the injuries. Our 2 best receivers and our TE being out is not good, I don't care who we're playing. This is what happens when you play 6 tough rivalry games to start the season. Whatever, I still think we win by 13.