Safety Play

[jason_h537]

Last I checked there wasn't any hayseed on our roster.

I've been wondering who this Rocket guy is? never seen him on any roster either

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

{Singing}

The wheels on the "BUS" go round and round...round and round....round and round....

 

[jason_h537]

Sharks can't play football you silly posters

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

"Rock" is rollin'

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

Rumor has it, "Moose" once roamed the athletic offices....

 

[delt1147]

Last I checked there wasn't any hayseed on our roster. Harrison Smith had a hell of a game. All the safties (except one play by Slaughter) were awesome. When you play a team as physical as Pitt, and you out-hit them, you are doing something right. Smith and Motta hammered that fullback.

Actually on another one of the big plays the safety screwed up too. Think it was Slaughter again. It was earlier in the game. He took a terrible course at the WR. He ran straight at him instead of taking the correct angle. It was as bad as his other play. Very poor. Announcers just did not bring it up. Smith also should have had at least two picks. When you miss on those plays it can come back to hurt a team. The one at the end was really bad. We need better safeties. The ones we have are not good enough now if a national championship is the goal.

 

[WabashFalcon]

WHAT'S GOING ON?!?!?!? I'M EVERSOMUCH CONFUSED!

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

Come on, lets not call our players names. They were working their butt off. And Harrison Had a dang good game. Support our players, not call them names. We can call out how they played, or mistakes, or great things. But, I refuse to call our guys names.

Go Irish!

 

[IrishinSyria]

Smith's arms are just too big to make an athletic catch like that.

Anyways, I'm glad Slaughter screwed up on that long TD. That's a play that will be burned in the back of his mind as a "never again" type thing. Also, it didn't end up hurting us.

 

[WabashFalcon]

Guys... especially some of you newer posters...

Hayseed has been Hayseed for the past couple years. It a term of endearment from IE. I think a couple of people are taking it a bittttttttttttttttttttt too far.

Hell... we were calling Sergio Brown "The Black Ghost" for a few weeks.

 

[IrishinSyria]

a term of endearment from IE.

It's actually a term of endearment from Tenuta. The team picked up on it and we, like all Irish fans, followed suit.

As for the "is Hayseed an insult" discussion, I don't think so and, from what I can gather, neither does Harrison. However, the "team" did say that they were supposed to stop calling him it because some people found it offensive. To my eyes, all it means is that he's salt of the earth. A grinder. Exactly the type of kid we need to have at ND.

And this year, Hayseed's been playing exactly like that. He's been very good on run support and effective in pass coverage. He reminds me of Zbikowski a lot in that you get a lot of high quality plays and a real physical presence, but the trade off is that sometimes he takes overly aggressive angles and gets caught out of position.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

It's actually a term of endearment from Tenuta. The team picked up on it and we, like all Irish fans, followed suit.

As for the "is Hayseed an insult" discussion, I don't think so and, from what I can gather, neither does Harrison. However, the "team" did say that they were supposed to stop calling him it because some people found it offensive. To my eyes, all it means is that he's salt of the earth. A grinder. Exactly the type of kid we need to have at ND.

And this year, Hayseed's been playing exactly like that. He's been very good on run support and effective in pass coverage. He reminds me of Zbikowski a lot in that you get a lot of high quality plays and a real physical presence, but the trade off is that sometimes he takes overly aggressive angles and gets caught out of position.

The guy would be a different ball player had we not tried to fit him in at LB (a square seed in a round hole?).

It's nice to see him making plays.

 

[Old Man Mike]

On nicknames: they are as good or as bad as the guys labelled with them think they are. "Kidding" is a dicey business and the kidders can be vicious or affectionate depending on how they pull it off --- I'm not good at it so I leave it alone. Many ball-players have been called "Country" for instance, and like Harrison's nickname this was usually a compliment ["country-strong" and all that]. One of the greatest basketball players of all time [Jerry West, who my team held to 100 points in two games in high school] was "Zeke from Cabin Creek". He thought it was just fine. If Harrison likes "Hayseed", I'll give it to him.

 

[Irish To The Core]

Am I nuts or was that 2nd "gimee" pick of Harrison's a really tough catch. I would like to know how many wide receivers let alone safeties come down with that ball. Harrison imo, has never been as bad as his haters have claimed and he played a very solid all around game Saturday.

Motta was a bit shaky in his first game but he has gotten better every time out and is really making good reads especially against the run now.

Jamoris screwed up and it was a highlight reel screw up...he is in the def. backfield and everybody who plays back there will get beaten like that now and then.

I think the criticism is exaggerated re., our safeties...I feel comfortable going into battle with these guys.

 

[ACamp1900]

Joe "Montana" can sling it it...





... wait... what?

 

[jason_h537]

Am I nuts or was that 2nd "gimee" pick of Harrison's a really tough catch. I would like to know how many wide receivers let alone safeties come down with that ball. Harrison imo, has never been as bad as his haters have claimed and he played a very solid all around game Saturday.

Motta was a bit shaky in his first game but he has gotten better every time out and is really making good reads especially against the run now.

Jamoris screwed up and it was a highlight reel screw up...he is in the def. backfield and everybody who plays back there will get beaten like that now and then.

I think the criticism is exaggerated re., our safeties...I feel comfortable going into battle with these guys.

1. Tough for a safety but should have been a pick, still great game by Hayseed

2. Motta got some early experience and has looked good off the bench, he just isnt ready to start

3. Slaughter screwed up but he has only been playing Safety for a year at ND so he will get better

 

[Old Man Mike]

Kelly likes Motta but says he is a guy who has to experience it to "get it"...so it's a bit slower evolution than optimal. Still, Coach likes the fact that Motta arrives with bad intentions at the tackle.

 

[eNDzone]

Good effort by Harrison against Pitt. He some some ard hits too.

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

I think they have done a good job (compared to last year)....the Slaughter "bite" was a sin (in Safety Terms)...Baldwin is the best player Pitt has and Jamoris let a 4.4 6'6 guy get behind him....?!! WTF! However like someone else said...he learned a lesson...lets hope it sticks.....

 

[Junkhead]

Smith also should have had at least two picks.

Uh, he had pick against BC. A pick against Pitt, and one that was brought back. He had 11 tackles and 1.5 picks and we won, give him a break. If had hadn't had Weis/Tenuta coaching for 2+ years, he might be an All-American. I haven't seen anything from Hayseed this year to bitch about really.

 

[jason_h537]

If had hadn't had Weis/Tenuta coaching for 2+ years, he might be an All-American.

All-American might be a stretch but i think that could apply to alot of the 2007 defensive class

 

[IrishJayhawk]

All-American might be a stretch but i think that could apply to alot of the 2007 defensive class

A lot of blindly running toward the backfield without ever reaching the QB...

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Quote:
Originally Posted by WabashFalcon
a term of endearment from IE.


It's actually a term of endearment from Tenuta. The team picked up on it and we, like all Irish fans, followed suit.

Tenuta and term of endearment is an oxymoron.

I checked.

It’s not the nickname. That’s a matter of taste and style. I’ve never called a fat man “Slim”, been intentionally derogatory to someone’s race or gender. Nor have I found gratification referred to someone’s place of origin in a less than honorable fashion. For me, (of all players on the team), it is about the way people have always singled him out and leveled unfair criticism at him.

My reaction is more to the overall distain expressed toward the ball player, than the name itself. Granted I am new to the site, but I have been a ND fan for some time. I don’t mean to be a moralist, but I just can’t see keeping anything brought forth by that co-co-coordinator, and I am not taking my lead from him either!

“I can't help about the shape I'm in – I can't sing, I ain't pretty, and my legs are thin . . .”

 

[dshans]

“I can't help about the shape I'm in – I can't sing, I ain't pretty, and my legs are thin . . .”

Thanks for the flashback/memory, Marshloper! This song periodically invades my brain and then bounces about a bit – after 40 years, no less.

YouTube - fleetwood mac oh well

 

[mgriff]

Thanks for the flashback/memory, Marshloper! This song periodically invades my brain and then bounces about a bit – after 40 years, no less.

YouTube - fleetwood mac oh well

I ****ing love Fleetwood Mac. Thanks for that link, it came at a very opportune time for me. I blame my mother and family for listening to soft rock stations during my formative years. Cindi Lauper, Fleetwood Mac, Bonnie Tyler; I'm probably one of the only 25 year old men who get excited when those songs come on the radio. I realize the other two artists aren't in Fleetwood's league, I'm trying to make a point. I love it though, and I wouldn't change it for the world. Thanks to my mother, four aunts and a homosexual uncle for teaching me music appreciation.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

You know, Fleetwood Mac was an entirely different band before Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks joined (short story.) Try “Mystery to Me” or the earlier stuff. And while you are at it as far as girl acts, look up Suzi Quatro (Pleasure Seekers, or Fanny). If this experiment goes as I expect, pretty soon you will be sneaking in old Janice Joplin recordings.

Back to ball: one of the announcers, I cannot remember who, stated it all; that Notre Dame was growing two 6’2” – 6’3’, 215-220 pound safeties, that hit like linebackers supporting the run defense, and could cover the pass. They made it clear they didn’t think the secondary was all the way there yet, but was well on its way. I was wondering if that isn’t a third contributing force, (behind Ian Williams, who better get some All-American recognition, Manti and Carlo) to the rapid improvement of the run defense.

And dshans, who told you my real name?

 

[Old Man Mike]

One other small thing of the type that speaks volumes to me: on one of the "panel" type analyst shows [there were six guys lined up on chairs], they got to discussing ND and its defense. While David Pollack never has anything good to say about us [puzzling since I tend to like him otherwise], the other guys often do [especially the coach on there.] As to this thread specifically, a fine old veteran defensive player [Ray Bentley] was ticking off four players that he thought were excellent on the D. One of them was Harrison Smith. [P.S. to the best of my memory the others were Te'o, Calabreese, and Williams, but I won't go to court on that].

 

[johnnykillz]

We appreciate you "Straight-Shootin'" Trotter.

See you "Straight..."

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Rumor has it, "Moose" once roamed the athletic offices....

Is this another Monte Python reference, as in Moose trainer, Moose Makeup, and Moose wardrobe by . . ., (final credits of MPISOHG)?? Or as in a moose killed my brother, really?

AND THAT IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT OM MIKE!

Straight? Oh, ****! I mean fecal material!

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

Hey Bog...that pick cracks me up every time...classic!