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Notre Dame football: Irish poised to make a run
COMMENTARY

By AL LESAR
Tribune Staff Writer

SOUTH BEND — Time to fatten up.

Political correctness, and the threat of being hammered within the fraternity of football coaches, won't allow Notre Dame's Brian Kelly to state the obvious.

His 2-3 team is a smidge above average, getting better each week, and is catching a break with the upcoming schedule.



By Halloween, the Irish will be bowl eligible. At least that's what the two guys from the Champs Sports Bowl watching Notre Dame beat Boston College are counting on.

Go ahead, book the flight to Orlando (but don't make it non-refundable, just in case Dayne Crist gets hurt along the way; of course, there's always Disney World for the holidays). It's a 6:30 p.m. start on Tuesday, Dec. 28. Early projections show the Irish being paired with Clemson, which would be a pretty stout challenge.

In the big picture, Notre Dame proved a significant point Saturday night: It won't be beaten by a one-dimensional team.

All BC had offensively was running back Montel Harris. He left with 28 net yards and a new appreciation for the words “gang tackle.”

Pitt's a BC clone without the defense and the cool Eagle that swooped around Alumni Stadium during the national anthem. The Panthers will have either Ray Graham or Dion Lewis running the ball, whoever happens to be healthy at the moment. Beyond that, talent is limited.

Ditto for the rest of October.

Every time a blowout of Western Michigan is suggested, local folks with degrees from Kalamazoo feel slighted and take their angst to the e-mails. Sooooooo, despite being 1-3, coming off a 20-point loss to Idaho at home, the Broncos appear ripe to lose by a point or two in a nailbiter in their visit to South Bend.

Is that better? Heck, if all Bronco fans were that passionate, there wouldn't have been tickets for the game already returned and sold to Notre Dame fans.

Navy's run of seven straight Commander-in-Chief Trophy conquests will likely end this year. The Midshipmen mustered just six points in a loss to Air Force. If Notre Dame could somehow quickly schedule the Falcons this season, the Irish would be in the running for the service academy hardware.

If Navy can score just six points against Air Force, it doesn't look good for going against an ND defense that played well enough Saturday night for even Kirk Herbsteit to appreciate.

Then there's Tulsa and a bye week. Too soon to worry about Utah or Southern Cal. Lots can happen by then.

Kelly, meanwhile, is adamant about his staff's internal focus, rather than a glimpse to the upcoming landscape.

There are still kinks to be un-kinked. One offensive play Saturday night testified to the need. Passing situation. Crist gets the snap. BC sends a blitz. Crist sails a hot read in receiver Michael Floyd's direction. Instead of adjusting to the circumstances, Floyd keeps sprinting down field and the ball sails yards behind him.

“Generally, it's a sight adjustment after the snap,” Kelly said of the way the play should have worked. “That takes an unconscious confidence that we're not at yet.”

Floyd didn't recognize the situation. That's another step to take.

“It's an evolutionary process,” Kelly said. “Sight recognition's gotta be part of the spread offense. It's something we'll work toward in the future.”

Though he ranks 18th in the country with 81.6 receiving yards a game (28 catches, 408 yards), Floyd still has some room to grow in these final seven games.

“They blitzed us,” Floyd recalled of the play. “(Crist) was trying to get the ball out quick. If we had guides to pick it up or if we didn't make a mistake, I'm not sure what happened. He would have made a better read with that.

“The quarterback knows where the wide receivers are. (My biggest adjustment) is making sure I'm at the right place at the right time. It's not too much of a difference (than the past); just make sure I communicate with the quarterback.”

Communication makes the offense tick. Recognizing the need for it is the first step. Next comes getting it done.

The show should get better the next few weeks.
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Don't be fooled, the Pitt, SC and Utah games are all very loseable. We could easily finish the season 6-6 if we're not careful.
 

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Don't be fooled, the Pitt, SC and Utah games are all very loseable. We could easily finish the season 6-6 if we're not careful.

I agree.

I still have Pitt as a toss up game. They have playmakers in the running and passing game. It will be a challenge. Plus they have a very good defensive line even with Romeus out.

Utah I see as a loss. They are just a better team.

USC is a "toss up" but there's a lot of conference play between now and then and USC could get hot, hurt, cold, etc so it's tough to call the game now. Right now I label it as a toss up...with the slight edge to USC since it's at home and I think they are still the better team...although not by as much as in years past.

We are 2-3 now. With WMU, Tulsa, Army, Navy on the schedule those are 4 games that the Irish will be favored in and should win. That's 6-3. Pitt and USC as toss ups. Call that a split just for arguments sake. That's 7-4. A loss to a better team in Utah and that's 7-5. Realistically 6-6 is most likely the worst this season ends up, but if the toss ups go our way 8-4 is possible.

Like I said in my "Good, Bad, Ugly" Thread(Shamless plug) I'm not sure if this team is mature enough, good enough, confident enough, or consistant enough to pull off some longer winning streaks.

I guess we will see.
 

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Utah == Pitt. Completely different styles, but in my opinion they are very comparable teams in terms of pure talent and playmakers. I think we win 2/3.
 

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Utah == Pitt. Completely different styles, but in my opinion they are very comparable teams in terms of pure talent and playmakers. I think we win 2/3.

I think that's a rather large stretch. Utah is the #13 ranked team in the country and has been rolling teams since beating Pitt to open the season on the road. They've outscored their last three opponets 150-17.

Pitt has lost to Utah, gotten rolled by Miami and beaten new Hampshire and FIU.

Dion Lewis isn't the same back he was last season and they have some major issues at QB.

Saying Utah and Pitt are "very comparable" is a massive underselling of how good Utah is.

If Pitt was comparable to Utah they wouldn't have gotten rolled at home by 28.
 

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I still have Pitt as a toss up game. They have playmakers in the running and passing game. It will be a challenge. Plus they have a very good defensive line even with Romeus out.

With WMU, Tulsa, Army, Navy on the schedule those are 4 games that the Irish will be favored in and should win. QUOTE]

I agree with you on these points. If Pitt isn't much of a concern in some people's eyes, why were they ranked 15th at start of the year (maybe another reason for NOT having pre-season rankings) and lost in OT to a good Utah team on the road?! There other loss was to top 20 team Miami. It will indeed be a battle this w/e.

Irish SHOULD win the 4 games you noted above.
 

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Though I'm sure it will be tough battle, the scheduling does favor ND for the Utah game. Utah plays at Air Force (25th AP poll) on 10/30, then has #5 TCU at home on 11/6, then on the road to ND on 11/13. Good chance they'll come in a little banged up and worn. The Irish on the other hand plays Tulsa at home on 10/30, bye week on 11/6 before matching up w/ Utah AT HOME. Hopefully, the Irish will be well rested and not dinged up at that juncture.
 

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Though I'm sure it will be tough battle, the scheduling does favor ND for the Utah game. Utah plays at Air Force (25th AP poll) on 10/30, then has #5 TCU at home on 11/6, then on the road to ND on 11/13. Good chance they'll come in a little banged up and worn. The Irish on the other hand plays Tulsa at home on 10/30, bye week on 11/6 before matching up w/ Utah AT HOME. Hopefully, the Irish will be well rested and not dinged up at that juncture.

That's true. However that stuff is so hard to predict or forecast so I try to project it as all things beig equal persay.
 

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Everyone is understimating Tulsa! This article just passes them over like it's a sure win. Tulsa has some playmakers on offense and will be a lot better than BC in that regard.

We should be able to pile some points on, but they won't be one-dimensional.
 

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I think that's a rather large stretch. Utah is the #13 ranked team in the country and has been rolling teams since beating Pitt to open the season on the road. They've outscored their last three opponets 150-17.

Pitt has lost to Utah, gotten rolled by Miami and beaten new Hampshire and FIU.

Dion Lewis isn't the same back he was last season and they have some major issues at QB.

Saying Utah and Pitt are "very comparable" is a massive underselling of how good Utah is.

If Pitt was comparable to Utah they wouldn't have gotten rolled at home by 28.

Really? Because they went to OT when they played and looked very even the whole game with contrasting styles. Utah has yet to play anyone of Miami's caliber so I don't even see how that factors in. I watched the entire Utah vs Pitt game (which was in Utah NOT Pittsburgh by the way) and:

Utah was faster.
Pitt was stronger.
Utah played harder.
Pitt played bigger.
Utah had more yards.
Pitt had more TOP.
And the big one... they both scored the same amount of points in regulation and went to OT.

Is Utah a much more complete team? Absolutely. Pitt is very one dimensional and does not play as fast on either side of the ball. But don't underestimate Pitt's playmakers. They absolutely kept Pitt in that game to the very end.
 

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If we beat Pittsburgh, I think we have a very reasonable shot at 8-4. 7-5 is very likely.

I'm worried that we may drop a game we should win this season, kind of like Nick Saban's loss to UL-Monroe his first season at Alabama, or Rich Rod's loss to Toledo in 2008 in his first year at Michigan.

USC will be a far easier game than either Pittsburgh or Utah. They have an awful defense.
 

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I'm kind of thinking ND will have a chance to "disappear" for the next few weeks which might be good to build up some confidence for a strong push late in the year against Utah and SC.

What I mean by this is the whole CFB nation was enamored with the close loses to UM and MSU and then the blowout by Stanford. But nobody will care about ND playing Navy and WMU if ND wins. So I think they have a chance to fly under the radar and pick up some much needed wins while also getting better along the way. If we had SC or Stanford in the middle of the schedule it might present a set back but I think the way it sets up ND should be able to build some momentum going into the 2 big games at the end of the season.
 
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The thing with Utah is that the Irish could be coming in on a five-game winning streak and ranked #20ish with a bye week to prepare and Utah will be traveling into South Bend the week after playing Texas Christian. They could emotionally be a wreck and the Irish could be very confident. This game is even in my opinion. I can see Notre Dame winning the rest of their games, just as I can see them losing all of them but Western Michigan, Navy, and Army.

Realistically, it's more likely we end 9-3 than 4-8. I really think we'll know much more after the Pittsburgh game, I regard it as Michigan State, part deux. Very similar teams in my opinion, with Michigan State having a worse WR corp but better QB than Pittsburgh.

How sweet will it be to see Kelly stomp Lane Kiffin's team in Los Angeles though? Hell yes!
 

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Of course I want them to win the rest of the games. Can it happen-in a word no. Think about what you're asking as Utah/Pitt/Navy/southern cal are tough games for this crew. They are not ready yet but the effort/attitude is getting right. I would be estactic at this point for 8-4 and a decent bowl game. Dont fall into the trap of 'if they dont win the rest they're no good'. Its not even responsible to these kids who are working their butts off to turn this thing around. This team is proud and game but they are not there yet. Fire away at me next week but I dont think they beat Pitt. I'd like to be wrong. As a matter of fact I'd love to be wrong. GO IRISH
 
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The thing with Utah is that the Irish could be coming in on a five-game winning streak and ranked #20ish with a bye week to prepare and Utah will be traveling into South Bend the week after playing Texas Christian. They could emotionally be a wreck and the Irish could be very confident. This game is even in my opinion. I can see Notre Dame winning the rest of their games, just as I can see them losing all of them but Western Michigan, Navy, and Army.

Realistically, it's more likely we end 9-3 than 4-8. I really think we'll know much more after the Pittsburgh game, I regard it as Michigan State, part deux. Very similar teams in my opinion, with Michigan State having a worse WR corp but better QB than Pittsburgh.

How sweet will it be to see Kelly stomp Lane Kiffin's team in Los Angeles though? Hell yes!

There is absolutely no way that a 6-3 ND team is ranked.
 
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There is absolutely no way that a 6-3 ND team is ranked.

I couldn't agree more.

I see Notre Dame's final record to be 6-6. I hate it though. But it's ground level for the skyscraper we're going to be in 3 years...

I also hope they make the Hyundai Sun Bowl for which I have 50 yard line tickets ten rows up on the home side. So 6-6 would be great for me.
 

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I couldn't agree more.

I see Notre Dame's final record to be 6-6. I hate it though. But it's ground level for the skyscraper we're going to be in 3 years...

I also hope they make the Hyundai Sun Bowl for which I have 50 yard line tickets ten rows up on the home side. So 6-6 would be great for me.

If ND has a bowl pulse you can bet that the Champs Sports Bowl will snatch them up instantly.
 

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8-4 i still think we split Utah-USC, im hoping its USC but eithers good
 

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7-5 would be an amazing run. 6-6 seems likely.

How would 7-5 be amazing? We seemingly have 4 gimmes (I know Navy is good but don't see Kelly losing to them) left so how would going 1-2 vs. Pitt, Utah, USC be amazing?
 

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Yes.

Really.

Any other deep thought provoking questions?

Because they went to OT when they played and looked very even the whole game with contrasting styles.
In Week 1. Week 1 in college football is always odd and you always see weird stuff. No preseason games leads to some early season oddities at times.


Utah has yet to play anyone of Miami's caliber so I don't even see how that factors in
Because if you are saying Pitt is as good as you think they are(near equal footing with the #13(now the #10) team in the country) they don't lose at home by 28....and look completely incompetant in doing so.

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I watched the entire Utah vs Pitt game
Good for you.
(which was in Utah NOT Pittsburgh by the way) and:
Mea culpa.

Yawn.


Pitt had more TOP.
Utah runs the spread...TOP really isn't an issue. Saying Pitt "won" this catagory is reaching seeing as most spread teams give up TOP to put up points.


Is Utah a much more complete team? Absolutely.
Ok. Then enough. I think anyone watching the two teams since that game would agree that the Utah game for Pitt has thus far been the anomaly of the season based on their subsequent games and performances. Same for goes for Utah. We are no longer evaluating these teams after 1 game. We are looking at them after 4 games now. Yeah Game 1 happened..then again so did games 2-4.

Think there is a decent chance as long as Pitt and BC are decent this year and two of the three (UM, MSU, Stan) are ranked.
Well we all know BC isn't decent. They suck. Pitt is average. But a loss to us drops them to 2-3 with no wins over a decent program....

6-3 gets Notre Dame some votes in the polls...maybe they just barely sneak in at 25. But it's really iffy.
 

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I hope for a 8-4 finish, 7-5 worse case. But we have to focus on our day to day, week to week games. Right now the focus is on Pittsburgh and I think we will be fine against them. They are a decent team so we better be ready to play.
 

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in week 9 last year there were 2 5-3 teams ranked in the top 25

vtech and okla.

week 10

vtech and oregon state were 6-3 and ranked in the top 25.

this is bcs standings, ap had vtech, stan, and clem ranked at
6-3
 

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in week 9 last year there were 2 5-3 teams ranked in the top 25

vtech and okla.

week 10

vtech and oregon state were 6-3 and ranked in the top 25.

this is bcs standings, ap had vtech, stan, and clem ranked at
6-3

Who had they beaten?

Who were the losses to?

Where did they start the season out at ranking wise?

All 5-3's/6-3's aren't created equal.
 
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Who had they beaten?

Who were the losses to?

Where did they start the season out at ranking wise?

All 5-3's/6-3's aren't created equal.

dont know, i just know 6-3 teams can be ranked.

i know vtech and ok started the season ranked. but i dont think stanford or oregon state did.

i think we'll have to wait a week longer when we're 7-3
 
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I don't see us being ranked in the top 25 unless we we are 7-3. If we can win the next five games.., (it will be extremely tough, but not impossible) that means digging deep and having a victory over Utah btw, we will be in the top 25 and deserve to be there. There are alot of good teams out there and alot of undefeated teams at the moment. All I care about though is the improvement of this football team as the season progresses.
 

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dont know, i just know 6-3 teams can be ranked.

Well it wasn't that no 6-3 team can be ranked. His point was notre dame couldn't be ranked at 6-3. Which at 6-3 Notre Dame would have beaten:

Purdue..Bad
BC....Bad
Pitt...Below Average
WMU....MAC team..and Bad
Navy...Below Average
Tulsa....Below Average.

Not a very good resume. 6-3 means any good team we played we lost to.

Hopefully we get to find out for sure though.............
 

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I think Pitt, Utah, and USC will all be very close games.

Kelly was brought in because he is a winner. My hope is that he can win these kind of games. Its what Charlie couldn't do, and so far things haven't changed. These three games will hopefully give us some kind of indication of where we are headed.

I know, I know, Kelly doesn't have 'his guys' and 'the players are still learning'. Big deal. If Kelly is the answer, he should be able to get the team to HTFU and win a close game against a good opponent.
 
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