Good Article on Fanhouse

[IrishLax]

Notre Dame's Luck as Dead as Its Ghosts -- NCAAFB FanHouse

At least some sports writers get it.

 

[nd1]

very good article. god i remeber those years when nd was winning and will be glad when they get back there.



hey b*tches this is my 1000 post

 

[IrishinSyria]

Some of the comments on the article are kind of amusing.

My personal "luck has abandoned us" moment was when Ryan Grant all of a sudden got fumbilitis against BC in Ty's first year.

 

[Jerry]

Is Fanhouse the same as Bleacher Report? By that I mean can anybody write an article?

It's an interesting article which isn't really news to any of us. But definitely fans the flames of Notre Dame hatred.

 

[PANDFAN]

Some of the comments on the article are kind of amusing.

My personal "luck has abandoned us" moment was when Ryan Grant all of a sudden got fumbilitis against BC in Ty's first year.

it was the green jerseys!!!

 

[RDU Irish]

Nice compilation of Irish anti-luck.

If we beat Michigan, it would have gone down in lore with the rainbow before Rudy's TD. Dumb Leprechaun ran off before the game was over!

 

[IrishTimer]

Good article but I think there's a bit of lapse in logic at the end concerning 1993.

#4 Notre Dame beat #7 A&M by three points. #1 FSU beat #2 Nebraska by two.

While FSU didn't exactly dominate #2 Nebraska The Irish didn't exactly make a statement against the #7 team in the country either. 1989 and 1993 don't line up really well from that point of view as you had Miami squeaking by a lower ranked foe when not ranked #1 and Notre Dame trouncing the #1 team in the country.

I see the point he is making but they aren't exactly linear situations and IMO aren't very comparable.

*EDIT* As irish fans we have to have it one way or the other. We don't really have a good argument for both NC's. We either give ourselves the one in 89 or 93. Not both. If we give ourselves 89 or reasoning for 93 goes out the window. If we give ourselves 93 we can't make an argument for 89.

 

[IrishinSyria]

*EDIT* As irish fans we have to have it one way or the other. We don't really have a good argument for both NC's. We either give ourselves the one in 89 or 93. Not both. If we give ourselves 89 or reasoning for 93 goes out the window. If we give ourselves 93 we can't make an argument for 89.

I think the point was that we get neither. And that different standards were applied (how much should head to head matter) each year, pretty much based on people not liking ND. At least, that's the ND version of the story.

 

[IrishTimer]

I think the point was that we get neither. And that different standards were applied (how much should head to head matter) each year, pretty much based on people not liking ND. At least, that's the ND version of the story.

I think in 1993 is more the fact we didn't beat A&M very convincingly and a groundswell of people wanting to give Bobby Bowden his first NC more than ND hate. '89 is in interesting case. We lost to Miami but then looked really impressive against Colorado. Miami wasn't exactly a well liked program at the time either though. I think #1 lost. #2 won. #2 had beaten the only other team with a real argument for the NC. The real curiousity that year is how the coaches ranked a 2 loss FSU team ahead of us at the end of the season.

 

[Kak7304]

We could be Bama fans and claim both.

 

[connor_in]

"We could be Bama fans and claim both. "

Speaking of 'Bama...anyone remember the the "Little Blue Nun" song and the championship ND won in Jan. 1978?

1978 Cotton Bowl: From No. 5 To No. 1 (free article from blueandgold.com)

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

I just re watched all of those clips...I think I am going to puke!!!

 

[Old Man Mike]

To IrishTimer: The 1993 year is seared in my memory for the "sociology" that soaked through everything that year. You are absolutely correct. I don't believe it would have made any difference who was the "other" team---sports media nation was going to get that championship for Bowden regardless. And, there seemed to be a groundswell of sympathy [don't ask me why] even among the coaches to have him get it. Man, the size of the smiles over the old bastard getting his championship just about made this Old Timer puke.

 

[ND_HAS_RISEN]

The comments on this article are absolutly ridiculous!! I can't stand idiots that are blind when it comes to bold face facts, supported by VIDEO!!. Yes I agree that ALL teams have things that could be considerred "unlucky breaks", but ND has HANDS DOWN more then any team I know of.

I am so sick and tired of the HATE spewed by people about ND. ND is the MOST prestigious, honored college program EVER!! If anything, they demand RESPECT, not HATE!!

Just to clarify, I don't have any problems with a Michigan fan, or a USC fan, etc.. "hating" ND. I can't stand the people who have NOTHING to hate about ND that just HATE ND!!

 

[IrishTimer]

To IrishTimer: The 1993 year is seared in my memory for the "sociology" that soaked through everything that year. You are absolutely correct. I don't believe it would have made any difference who was the "other" team---sports media nation was going to get that championship for Bowden regardless. And, there seemed to be a groundswell of sympathy [don't ask me why] even among the coaches to have him get it. Man, the size of the smiles over the old bastard getting his championship just about made this Old Timer puke.

That 1993 team is really the first Notre Dame season I can remember all of. I was in 3rd grade. I remember seeing games from past seasons specifically the 1991 Air Force game as well as many games that the Rocket played in; but 1993 was that first season I remember all of. I remember running around the streets after the FSU win, crying after the BC loss and then being shocked we didn't get at least a share of the NC.

I also remember being really surprised we didn't get invited to the Fiesta or Sugar Bowl that season. Realistically we needed a beyond domianting performance in our bowl game to get at least a share of the NC but we didn't get that and it hurt.