Big Ben to be suspended

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Just heard the report... Now I hate the Steelers and all but I don't get something... maybe you can help me out... now I haven't followed this case too closely I'll admit... but my understanding he has been accused twice and absolved twice....

how can he be suspended for being accused of something that was later dropped???... He is basically being suspended for having sex??? the players union should have a field day with this, no???
 

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The player conduct policy doesn't require that he be charged. The fact that he keeps putting himself in these situations is what is getting him suspended.
 

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I understand that... but what misconduct has he been involved in??? having sex? as of right now the guy has been targeted... that's his fault how?
 

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He's banging chicks that aren't even 21 yet in the bathroom of a club full of college kids. I think the NFL and the Steelers expect their 28 year old franchise QB to have better judgement than that. Big Ben himself came out and said he's ready to accept any punishment. So he knows he's an idiot. And now the Steelers are listening to trade offers.
 

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he broke the law of millionares...if you are worth millions you dont hang out with college kids.

oh and the nfl personal conduct policy doesnt specify that you have to break the law in order to be punished!
 
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he broke the law of millionares...if you are worth millions you dont hang out with college kids.

oh and the nfl personal conduct policy doesnt specify that you have to break the law to be punished!

You don't take them to the bathroom and have sex with them either.
 

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He's banging chicks that aren't even 21 yet in the bathroom of a club full of college kids. I think the NFL and the Steelers expect their 28 year old franchise QB to have better judgement than that. Big Ben himself came out and said he's ready to accept any punishment. So he knows he's an idiot. And now the Steelers are listening to trade offers.

I agree. Its not that he just banged a girl its who, the place and you expect more from a public figure who is the face of the franchise. Next he's gonna say he is a sex addict
 

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nah, I say this is all bullshit... and if I were Ben and I didn't do what the accusations said I did I'm talking to my lawyer right now... six games for being a single male??? Basically the NFL is punishing him for being exploited or at worst allowing himself to be exploited... how many of these players do you think do the exact same thing every week?? I don't see anything that Ben has done wrong to warrent a six week ban... period
 

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6 games is harsh but this isnt the first time he has put himself in this situation. All players are given seminars on this very topic when they join the league. The guy is a famous young athlete and he likes booty. Thats great but dont put yourself in a situation that will get you caught up in this. Especially when you are as recognizable as he is.
 

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Hypocrisy at it's finest. DA will not prosecute but NFL, who is above the law, will. Marketing and PR wins one.

Can of worms.
 

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this is like Kobe getting a 35 game suspension for what happened in Col... or A. Rod. getting 55 games for cheating on his wife... again as of right now the only thing the guy did wrong is have sex... how is that a punishable offense?? According to the league and those supprting the decision Ben shouldn't have put himself in this position by not hvaing sex... that's it... and that's why he gets six games... again I'd be on my lawyers butt.

whatever I don't even like Ben so who cares I guess... just another reason for me to turn away from the NFL
 
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Look ACamp. Golddiggers don't exist at the million dollar level. And I would not be on my lawyer's butt at this point. It might add another week to the suspension for being on his butt.

Imagine the rumors.
 

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Look ACamp. Golddiggers don't exist at the million dollar level. And I would not be on my lawyer's butt at this point. It might add another week to the suspension for being on his butt.

Imagine the rumors.

Well now that you mention the possiblity of rumors maybe we should just have the NFL place an ankle bracelet and a chastity belt on Big Ben so the mighty NFL won't have to deal with rumors about a single males sexual life... I mean it's only fair... wtf was he thinking getting some of that perfect 10 ass that is thrown at him daily in a free country... that SoB

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this is like Kobe getting a 35 game suspension for what happened in Col... or A. Rod. getting 55 games for cheating on his wife... again as of right now the only thing the guy did wrong is have sex... how is that a punishable offense?? According to the league and those supprting the decision Ben shouldn't have put himself in this position by not hvaing sex... that's it... and that's why he gets six games... again I'd be on my lawyers butt.

whatever I don't even like Ben so who cares I guess... just another reason for me to turn away from the NFL

yea but none of those people you mentioned there have been accused of rape...TWICE! how is it that every other pro athlete is able to run around and not get accused of rape?
 

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Anyone who is defending Ben on this one should read the Georgia investigation report first.

He intentionally fed the girl (underage) multiple alcoholic drinks for the purpose of getting her drunk. Had his bodyguards bring her to an isolated part of the establishment. Had his bodyguards prevent her friends from reaching her.

According to the report she told him "No" after he approached her with his penis hanging out his pants and fled to the bathroom. Roethlisberger pursued her into the bathroom where upon he forced himself on her.

The only reason that he was not charged is because the girl was so drunk that the DA didn't believe he could get a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt. The DA was clear that he believed she was raped but her testimony would be ravaged by the defense who would assert that how would she know what was going on in her condition?

This penis hanging out of the pants appears to be the standard Roethlisberger come on. It has been reported by others to have happened on more than one occasion in the past.

There was a story reported somewhere (heard it from my son) that once Roethlisberger, Hines Ward and Jerome Bettis went to a night club where there was a $5 cover charge. Roethlisberger told the doorman to go screw himself that people in his [BR] position didn't need to pay $5. Supposedly Ward gave the guy $20 apologized for BR's behavior and said that the 20 was for BR and Ward and that he could keep the other 10. Bettis then gave the guy $200 and told him to let in as many people as that would cover. Point...BR is an utter tool........

I hope the Steelers cut him loose.

He is a low life.
 

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I understand that... but what misconduct has he been involved in??? having sex? as of right now the guy has been targeted... that's his fault how?

Forced sex....twice even. Goodell has been dropping the hammer on all players. FatBen has violated the player conduct policy and by now every player in the league knows that Goodell isnt going to let it slide. He made himself, the Steelers, and NFL look bad. If it looks bad, it is bad. And to put in street terms, Goodell in essence is saying "your effn with our paper"

Goodell didnt want the league to turn into the Cincinnati Bengls of a few years back. So when he took the NFL commishiners job, he came in swinging; coming off the top rope with regards to disciplinary issues. I think he has been consistant and fair, and is doing a great job.
 

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Forced sex....twice even. Goodell has been dropping the hammer on all players. FatBen has violated the player conduct policy and by now every player in the league knows that Goodell isnt going to let it slide. He made himself, the Steelers, and NFL look bad. If it looks bad, it is bad. And to put in street terms, Goodell in essence is saying "your effn with our paper"

Goodell didnt want the league to turn into the Cincinnati Bengls of a few years back. So when he took the NFL commishiners job, he came in swinging; coming off the top rope with regards to disciplinary issues. I think he has been consistant and fair, and is doing a great job.

Agree, he's a good successor to the Pete Roselle, etal, legacies.
 

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It is a punishable offense because he broke the leagues conduct policy. This is something he was aware of before banging a co-ed in a public bathroom. If you are the face of a franchise, you should make better choices. This is the burden of being a public figure.
 

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Anyone who is defending Ben on this one should read the Georgia investigation report first. ...

I admit I have not followed the story in the least, other than what is posted on this site.

Can of worms at that level.
 
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It is a punishable offense because he broke the leagues conduct policy. This is something he was aware of before banging a co-ed in a public bathroom. If you are the face of a franchise, you should make better choices. This is the burden of being a public figure.

Yeah, right unless you're POTUS.
 

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Ben Roethlisberger is being suspended for a pattern of irresponsible behavior. not having sex. A civil case is still pending from the allegations of sexual assault he faced in Colorado. Here is a portion of the statement released by the D.A. investigating the case in Georgia....

The facts as they appear from our investigation are essentially these: On the evening of Thursday, March 4, and going into after midnight on Friday, March 5, Ben Roethlisberger was bar-hopping with his bodyguards and friends here in Milledgeville, Georgia, and attracting a crowd wherever he went. And his victim was bar-hopping with her sorority sisters. Both parties had been drinking alcohol prior to meeting each other. They did not know each other before this evening, but did meet at different bars throughout the night. They participated in conversations, some of a sexual nature. After midnight, Mr. Roethlisberger and his entourage were at the Capital City Club and the manager let them use the V.I.P. area. The victim went with her sorority sisters to the nightclub later. Mr. Roethlisberger invited them into the V.I.P. area where he provided shots of alcohol for them. Everyone agrees that the victim was highly intoxicated due to consuming alcohol. One of the bodyguards guided the victim down a back hallway. Mr. Roethlisberger followed her down the hallway into a small bathroom. The issue is what happened in that small, less than five-foot-wide, single-commode bathroom, between Mr. Roethlisberger and the victim. Significant questions about what occurred persist. A report was made to law enforcement immediately. Initial interviews were conducted. The victim was driven by a friend to the Oconee Regional Medical Center, the local hospital in Milledgeville. An emergency-room doctor and two nurses examined her. Noted in their report was a superficial laceration and bruising and slight bleeding in the genital area. Everything else in the medical examination was normal. The doctor stated that he could not say these were or were not from any kind of trauma or sexual assault. A standard rape evidence kit was collected. The doctor found no evidence of semen or discharge. The swabbings from the rape-evidence kit were tested by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation crime lab in Atlanta, Georgia, and the initial testing found human male DNA present. Additional extensive testing was done, but because the sample was so minute it would not yield a profile. The crime lab advised that extracting DNA from Mr. Roethlisberger at this point was futile due to the fact that no profile was available from the minute male DNA sample submitted in the rape-evidence kit. Hence, that is when Mr. Roethlisberger’s attorney was informed that no buccal-swab samples for DNA would be needed from his client anymore.

The crime that was being investigated was rape. Under our official code, section 16-6-1, the elements of rape are having carnal knowledge – that means having sexual intercourse, which requires penetration – of a female forcibly and against her will. In this judicial circuit, we have always strongly held that a woman has a right to be safe from attack, but every case must be viewed in the context of its circumstances. Here, the overall circumstances do not lead to a viable prosecution. If they did, I would pursue it vigorously. We are not condoning Mr. Roethlisberger’s actions that night, but we do not prosecute morals, we prosecute crimes.

D.A. Fred Bright Transcript plus the Post-Statement Interview | NationalSportsReview.com
 

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Evidentally the NFL has increased the penalty for illegal use of hands! (Rim Shot)
 

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That isn't right for Ben to think he can go and Steel er innocence. ( funky bass line)
 
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