What are your expectations for Dayne Crist?

[FightingIrishLover7]

First Off, my prediction is taking into consideration that his knee recovers properly (as it appears to be).

I expect in to start Game 1 against Purdue. I think he is going to excel in Kelly's spread.. He is going to put up numbers similar to Clausen this year.

Kelly has already said he isn't going to focus on holding the ball for possession time.. So basically, he is going to let Dayne air it out early and often.



PS)...my old man got the chance to talk to Evan Sharpley today, and Sharpley said Dayne is the real deal. Sharpley thinks he is going to put up "monster numbers". Sharpley also said Dayne is a "more likable leader than what Jimmy was"...


So with all this being said I'm expecting the offense to remain great... And as usual the defense is my main concern.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

I expect him to win a lot of games.

 

[irish1958]

Jimmy was a good pocket passer, and will probably do well in the Pros. In college you need a QB who can move a bit more and perhaps pick up 2 or 3 first downs a game, rather than punting, and who can run the QB sneak.
I really expect him to do well.
I liked Clausen and respected him for playing hurt. He took a KO shot in the Navy game and came right back. I would like to see him drafted by a team with an extablished QB so he can learn the pro game form the sideline and not on his back.

 

[TDHeysus]

...Sharpley thinks he is going to put up "monster numbers". Sharpley also said Dayne is a "more likable leader than what Jimmy was"....

I dont see monster numbers from a QB in his first year at helm, and in a totally new system, coming off a major injury. I could be wrong, but we could very well see 15+ INT's from him. From Crist I want to see him progress week after week, as long as he is learning as he goes and the process keeps moving forward.

as far as a likeable leader, leaders arent supposed to be likeable, they get results by keeping ppl out of their comfort zone. they get in your ass when your lagging, call you out when you are playing bad, they dont care who likes them or not, this is not a popularity contest. I'm not saying that a leader needs to be an a--hole, but likeable is not a pre-requesite for an effective leader.

 

[BGIF]

I'm hoping to see him healthy and mobile. I'll start getting excited about his putting up numbers next Fall after I see what he can do this Spring.

 

[IrishAddiction]

Im just excited about the guy, personally more excited than i was with Jimmy. Have been for some time.

Like BGIF already said, i just want him to be healthy and moving well..... I dont care about the numbers he puts up, though they will be there with Kellys offense. Im pumped for next season to watch the kid play and win games..... the later being the most important.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Im just excited about the guy, personally more excited than i was with Jimmy. Have been for some time.

Like BGIF already said, i just want him to be healthy and moving well..... I dont care about the numbers he puts up, though they will be there with Kellys offense. Im pumped for next season to watch the kid play and win games..... the later being the most important.

Wining is definitely the most important thing... And for some reason, like you, I have more faith in Dayne than Jimmy.

I don't know why I like Dayne so much, but I'm expecting great things.

 

[ryno 24]

Huge numbers and wins we are playing slower big ten teams and we will be in better condition Plus he will be in a spread offense Kellys quarterbacks have been good even when they were not highly touted imagine with a kid like Crist

 

[Chamellion]

In just a photo comparison, Crist seems to be more approachable than Clausen, as he doesn't do the upturn of the chin to appear more "powerful".

That has nothing to do with leadership, or football ability.

Just saying...

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

I am not more excited for Dayne than Jimmy. That's ridiculous. Jimmy had almost no talent around him except for wide receiver and he had terrible coaching. Jimmy is a once-in-a-generation talent. ND will be lucky if we ever get someone as good as him in the next 20 years.

 

[irishman3]

though i dont know the guy, i see a similarity in crist's leadership compared to quinn's. they both have strong and natural leading qualities. jimmy was the toughest son of a gun i have a seen on the field in the longest time and had unique leadership qualities that really propelled the team, however, he was an ass (in sports i usually dont care) and that can at times have a negative impact on team dynamics...

so what i want to see from crist is strong leadership that demands EVERYONE on the team constantly improves throughout the year. in all honesty i dont care about his numbers, all i care about is a national championship so i expect crist to make this team better and more confident

 

[tommyIRISH23]

I dont see monster numbers from a QB in his first year at helm, and in a totally new system, coming off a major injury. I could be wrong, but we could very well see 15+ INT's from him. From Crist I want to see him progress week after week, as long as he is learning as he goes and the process keeps moving forward.

as far as a likeable leader, leaders arent supposed to be likeable, they get results by keeping ppl out of their comfort zone. they get in your ass when your lagging, call you out when you are playing bad, they dont care who likes them or not, this is not a popularity contest. I'm not saying that a leader needs to be an a--hole, but likeable is not a pre-requesite for an effective leader.

I see him being efficient and starting to put up big numbers in the second half of the season. I think hell manage kelly's offense very well, and not be forced to win games. Hes got enough skill around him where hell just have to get the ball in the certain players hands and let them get the big play. Thats one thing I think well see a lot, big play coming out of runs and 5-12 yard passes. I know kelly is not about the run traditionally but I think hell have fun with our horses back there.. I think Cierre Wood is going to be a big play maker get shuffled around.

I dont see him throwing 15 INTs. I dont think kelly will put him in a position to make that many mistakes

 

[Irish4Life09]

dont be surprised if his numbers are average to below average as far as touchdowns go.int's probably wont be bad at all.
but i honestly dont expect him to play more than half the season,and it wont be because of his injury.kelly loves playing quarterbacks,this last year he started 5 different qb's if im not mistaken.
i believe there will be a lot of healthy competition for the job,and i would not be surprised if a couple of the frosh either get some starting times,or a lot of playing time or both.

 

[tko]

Heisman

 

[IrishJayhawk]

He'll put up huge numbers, assuming he stays healthy.

Cincy was 6th in the country in passing yardage (ND was 7th) and 4th in scoring per game. Even Zach Collaros (sophomore - 3 stars from Rivals and 2 stars from Scout out of high school) put up 10 TD and 2 INT in only 124 attempts this year while Pike was hurt. Rating was 195.53.

The offense is very effective and we have better talent.

It's a new offense for Dayne, but there's all sorts of talent on that side of the ball.

Now, will we win 9-10 games? That's the question.

 

[laservet]

I think it will depend on how mobile and durable he is. A spread qb has to run enough to be a threat.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

In my perfect dreamworld, ND uses anyone and everyone available to take snaps and win the NC while Dayne takes a medical red shirt and heals completely.

I don't know what it is, but Crist is my favorite since Powlus.

This is a very uneducated, "watch-him-once-with-no-replay" opinion. Seems to me Rice and McDougal were the perfect QBs for Holtz's system, but Powlus was my favorite "squeeze a square into a round hole."

For some reason, Crist impresses the hell out of me. The touchdown pass he threw in the San Antonio game was lights out. His sideline demeanor, his athleticism, his intelligence, his enthusiasm for learning the game, his likeability etc... are off the charts. (I got all that from watching TV).

TDHeysus, there is much more to be said for a likeable leader than you think, depending on the situation. I think Jimmy was likeable, more than reported, and a tough summonabitch. I actually received negative stuff from mods when I was defending the guy during his dark times. Guess I proved me right so far. I simply think Crist is the MAN. I hope like hell he heals completely. (I have a similar injury at the moment and it is going to take a llloooooonnnnnngggg time to heal.)

Bottom line, I think Crist is a leader who can lead his TEAM to an NC. The Heisman might fall by the wayside because of his unselfish play.

I got all that from watching TV.

 

[Junkhead]

I think he'll have ups and downs, I'm not expecting too much off the bat. Hopefully he doesn't throw 24 Ints, like he did in my last NCAA 2010 season. (yes, it was partly my fault)

 

[mick2]

I think he'll have ups and downs, I'm not expecting too much off the bat. Hopefully he doesn't throw 24 Ints, like he did in my last NCAA 2010 season. (yes, it was partly my fault)

duh, youre supposed to quit and replay the game so ND never loses, dont you know that?

 

[IrishinSyria]

Crist is the start of what ND was becoming: he is the first big-deal player that is in a position to be reloaded as opposed to thrown into the mix before he's ready to go.

He's had a long time learning his craft from one of the best teachers in the business. He's had plenty of time to learn from Jimmy. Kelly's offense is nowhere near as complex as Charlie's was, and Crist has a great crew of playmakers to throw to. I think he will put up big numbers.

That being said, I also see more picks, but overall Crist will thrive in his role of what might have been.

 

[bigedefense]

First let me say that I did like Jimmy. Mainly because he was our QB. Had he been anywhere else in the country, I would not have cared for him. I disagree with you TD. A great leader is someone who gets teammates to go beyond what they think they can do so that they don't let him down. Also, as the old saying here in "tha sip" (Mississippi for those of you not familiar with our lingo), ITS A HELL OF A LOT EASIER TO LEAD A MULE THAN TO PUSH ONE. Jimmy was tough, I give him that. He was effective, I give him that, but he didn't have that extra "something" that made people want to go the extra mile for him IMO. An example of one (and DAMN I hate to say this) is Tebow. I think Crist has more of that side of leadership quality that Jimmy ever had. There are many ways to lead, as well as many ways to analyze it. Maybe I am just trying to find all of the positives for our new QB and hope for the best, but I feel like Crist will be one of the great QB's from ND when his playing days are over.

 

[Riddickulous]

I think he'll have ups and downs, I'm not expecting too much off the bat. Hopefully he doesn't throw 24 Ints, like he did in my last NCAA 2010 season. (yes, it was partly my fault)

What kind of game are you playing? My highest pick total in those games was like 7 in a season.

ESPN NFL 2K5, however, was a different story (37 in one season).

 

[IrishInFl]

What kind of game are you playing? My highest pick total in those games was like 7 in a season.

ESPN NFL 2K5, however, was a different story (37 in one season).

Unlike in NFL2k where you just chunked it to Moss on fly routes for 80 yards. I love my dreamcast.

 

[ACamp1900]

Heisman

and three National Titles... or the kids a complete failure...

 

[Junkhead]

What kind of game are you playing? My highest pick total in those games was like 7 in a season.

ESPN NFL 2K5, however, was a different story (37 in one season).

It is single player, Varsity, 6min quarters. Crist had 18tds and 24 ints. #16 (montana?) had 12 tds, 4 ints. No matter what I did, Crist was getting picked non-stop! Thanks to leading the nation in rushing, ND was still national champs though. And Clausen only threw 7 picks all season the previous year. I even turned the Int level down, but didn't help Crist. lol

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

It is single player, Varsity, 6min quarters. Crist had 18tds and 24 ints. #16 (montana?) had 12 tds, 4 ints. No matter what I did, Crist was getting picked non-stop! Thanks to leading the nation in rushing, ND was still national champs though. And Clausen only threw 7 picks all season the previous year. I even turned the Int level down, but didn't help Crist. lol

Hopefully that is not an omen for things to come.. He'll throw more INTs than Clausen did last year, but thats mostly considering Jimmy was nearly flawless. I know one INT was right off Allen's hands and another was a last second Hail Mary against Purdue at the end of the second quarter.

 

[timm3117]

but i honestly dont expect him to play more than half the season,and it wont be because of his injury.kelly loves playing quarterbacks,this last year he started 5 different qb's if im not mistaken.

I believe you are mistaken. Cincy started Pike, then he got hurt and Collaros took over. The other 2 Qbs on the roster threw a total of 8 passes in a 70-3 win, and a 41-10 win. Before the injury Pike had started 14 straight games, after Pike returned Collaros went back to the bench and did not attempt a pass in Cincy's last 3 games.

 

[timm3117]

and three National Titles... or the kids a complete failure...

Don't set the bar so low just because the kid is coming off an injury.

 

[phgreek]

In my perfect dreamworld, ND uses anyone and everyone available to take snaps and win the NC while Dayne takes a medical red shirt and heals completely.

I don't know what it is, but Crist is my favorite since Powlus.

This is a very uneducated, "watch-him-once-with-no-replay" opinion. Seems to me Rice and McDougal were the perfect QBs for Holtz's system, but Powlus was my favorite "squeeze a square into a round hole."

For some reason, Crist impresses the hell out of me. The touchdown pass he threw in the San Antonio game was lights out. His sideline demeanor, his athleticism, his intelligence, his enthusiasm for learning the game, his likeability etc... are off the charts. (I got all that from watching TV).

TDHeysus, there is much more to be said for a likeable leader than you think, depending on the situation. I think Jimmy was likeable, more than reported, and a tough summonabitch. I actually received negative stuff from mods when I was defending the guy during his dark times. Guess I proved me right so far. I simply think Crist is the MAN. I hope like hell he heals completely. (I have a similar injury at the moment and it is going to take a llloooooonnnnnngggg time to heal.)

Bottom line, I think Crist is a leader who can lead his TEAM to an NC. The Heisman might fall by the wayside because of his unselfish play.

I got all that from watching TV.

...Damn Scary...got one o them there portal TVs...I agree, and I do also think Jimmy got a bad rap. Both Dayne and Jimmy are solid leaders...I liken Jimmy to Theisman and Dayne to Montana...just two way different personalities, but both did what they needed to do. Dayne has a chance to put up some better W/L numbers than Jimmy....and if he does, I will say he's the better leader...cause in the end its how well you take the team you were given, and achieve the goal.

 

[NDinL.A.]

In my perfect dreamworld, ND uses anyone and everyone available to take snaps and win the NC while Dayne takes a medical red shirt and heals completely.

I don't know what it is, but Crist is my favorite since Powlus.

This is a very uneducated, "watch-him-once-with-no-replay" opinion. Seems to me Rice and McDougal were the perfect QBs for Holtz's system, but Powlus was my favorite "squeeze a square into a round hole."

For some reason, Crist impresses the hell out of me. The touchdown pass he threw in the San Antonio game was lights out. His sideline demeanor, his athleticism, his intelligence, his enthusiasm for learning the game, his likeability etc... are off the charts. (I got all that from watching TV).

TDHeysus, there is much more to be said for a likeable leader than you think, depending on the situation. I think Jimmy was likeable, more than reported, and a tough summonabitch. I actually received negative stuff from mods when I was defending the guy during his dark times. Guess I proved me right so far. I simply think Crist is the MAN. I hope like hell he heals completely. (I have a similar injury at the moment and it is going to take a llloooooonnnnnngggg time to heal.)

Bottom line, I think Crist is a leader who can lead his TEAM to an NC. The Heisman might fall by the wayside because of his unselfish play.

I got all that from watching TV.

It's not your imagination, Dayne Crist is a fantastic kid and has already proven to be a great leader off-the-field. Remember, he was the one who helped keep the #1 class in the country together despite coming off a 3-9 season.

People I've talked in SB/ND all rave about this kid. I mean he is truly loved by people and they just sort of gravitate to him. I'm a HUGE Jimmy fan and I think he did a tremendous job of leading this year, but he doesn't have the personality that Crist does. Crist is just a special, special kid that you guys are finally going to get to know and love.

And I speak from experience from his time down here in SoCal as well. His teammates and coaches swear by him. I've talked to a couple of his former teammates (one of them is a bouncer at a bar I just went to Thursday and when he saw my ND hoodie he wondered if I meant the h.s. school or the university and we struck up a conversation...dude is a student at UCLA and is friggen huge), and they LOVE the guy. Even one of the USC recruiting guys recently said that his favorite non-SC recruit of all-time was easily Dayne Crist. He said he's just an incredible young man who was as respectful and humble as can be, despite his enormous talent.

I'm telling you, if he plays good football, you are going to love this kid as much or even more than any talented player you've loved at ND...he's that good of a kid and will be that dynamite of a leader.

(and this is coming from as big of a Clausen apologist as you'll see on this board)...