PFT: Get ready for Gruden's Return

[Domer4ever]

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Interesting read. I did not know Gruden and Weis were represented by the same agent. Kind of an interesting dynamic in all the speculation. Not sure about Gruden being "impatient" to work with college QB's. As much as he loved collecting QB's in the NFL, it would seem to me that he likes the idea of molding young players....especially QB's!

 

[KajuNM]

If he does come to

at least he has Head Coaching experience unlike Weis & Davie......

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

I just don't see him coaching ND.

 

[Big23Head]

I don't see him here either. He seems more like professional athlete coach per say, meaning he won't do as well will student athletes and 'kids'.

 

[BGIF]

Get Ready For Gruden's Return

Get Ready For Gruden's Return

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The pro game, then, is likely where he'll land.

 

[wakeuptheechoes]

I don't see him here either. He seems more like professional athlete coach per say, meaning he won't do as well will student athletes and 'kids'.

He strikes me as just the opposite, fiery, Nick Saban like.

 

[nd1988]

I just don't see him coaching ND.

me too....i would like to know how people are "thinking" this is gonna work.....? gruden is not ND material....oh...wait.......I know......... he went to Clay....BFD.....

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

me too....i would like to know how people are "thinking" this is gonna work.....? gruden is not ND material....oh...wait.......I know......... he went to Clay....BFD.....

Hey, there's nothing wrong with Clay.... I went there, and look at me now!

 

[nd1988]

Hey, there's nothing wrong with Clay.... I went there, and look at me now!

no no...i didn't mean it that way.....some people are "trying" to justify Gruden coming to South Bend......................Sooooo...you know.....the only reason gruden would come here is b/c of...........Clay? I guess....

ps..clays girls were fun when i was in school....

 

[timm3117]

I don't think he is coming here either, but there is more then him going to high school in south bend. Like his dad coaching at ND under Ara, and how he was going to go to ND as a student. But wasn't ready to give up football yet, so he opted to go to a school that he might have a chance to play at.

 

[shortnd]

WE DON"T WANT GRUDEN.......he will be bad as a college coach. IF Weis gets fired, ND better have a proven winner in their pockets. Just wonder how many players will transfer? and how many verbal recruits we'll lose?

 

[WabashFalcon]

Look at all the Quarterbacks he amassed in the NFL... all were experienced. All were vets. All were not ROOKIES AND UNDEVELOPED TALENT.

 

[NDinFL]

Gruden's dad was an assistant coach at ND, and Gruden went to high school in South Bend in the 70's.....not saying that means anything, but there is A connection there.

 

[jmurphy75]

When he was in Tampa he couldn't motivate paid players, how's he going to do it with college kids? His style is simple he screams and yells at everyone.How do you think he got the nickname "Chucky" You never know it might be just what they need.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

no no...i didn't mean it that way.....some people are "trying" to justify Gruden coming to South Bend......................Sooooo...you know.....the only reason gruden would come here is b/c of...........Clay? I guess....

ps..clays girls were fun when i was in school....

I know, I know - just giving you a hard time. Yeah, Clay girls liked to party. They WANTED to be St. Joe or Penn girls, so, you know...

 

[NDinFL]

I like Charlie Weis, and I agree the sentiment "Rome wasn't built in a day" in regards to the football program, but this is a whole different style compared to professional football.....Those players in the NFL didn't HAVE to respond to screaming and yelling because they sat on 30 million dollar contracts. College kids, however, still have the love for the game, and no fat contracts to break their fall, in my personal opinion I think that they would respond quite well to Gruden's coaching.

 

[BGIF]

When he was in Tampa he couldn't motivate paid players, how's he going to do it with college kids? ...

"I just don't know how to motivate professional athletes." Lou Holtz when he resigned from the NY Jets.

Add Spurrier, Carroll, ... the list is long of successful college coaches that couldn't translate that success to the paid ranks.

 

[Irish4Life09]

WE DON"T WANT GRUDEN.......he will be bad as a college coach. IF Weis gets fired, ND better have a proven winner in their pockets. Just wonder how many players will transfer? and how many verbal recruits we'll lose?

could u try and base your post on any kind of fact?

and is winning a SuperBowl as a head coach not an achievement anymore? Id say that makes him more than qualified.
And would all you people quit saying we're bound to lose a ton of recruits if there's a coaching change. If we can get a great coach with a winning track record who can bring some life to our program(which right now we're on life support) then we wont lose recruits.

 

[timm3117]

Look at all the Quarterbacks he amassed in the NFL... all were experienced. All were vets. All were not ROOKIES AND UNDEVELOPED TALENT.

Yeah he had great QBs, like Chris Simms, Brian Griese, Bruce Gradkowski, Luke McCown, Josh Johnson, and they did sign Jeff Garcia at 37 years of age. He had Rich Gannon in Oakland and was very successful, and won a Super Bowl with well traveled Brad Johnson.

 

[timm3117]

could u try and base your post on any kind of fact?

and is winning a SuperBowl as a head coach not an achievement anymore? Id say that makes him more than qualified.
And would all you people quit saying we're bound to lose a ton of recruits if there's a coaching change. If we can get a great coach with a winning track record who can bring some life to our program(which right now we're on life support) then we wont lose recruits.

I agree only 27 Head Coach have won a Super Bowl, he is one of them.

 

[dre1919]

WE DON"T WANT GRUDEN.......he will be bad as a college coach. IF Weis gets fired, ND better have a proven winner in their pockets. Just wonder how many players will transfer? and how many verbal recruits we'll lose?

Speak for yourself. Personally, I'd love to have Jon Gruden at the helm. He may or may not transfer well into the college game. But, two things he does have above and beyond our current coach:

1. Head coaching experience prior to ND.
2. He's won something more than games over mediocre teams. He's won a Superbowl in which he had to be the HEAD COACH. Not just a coordinator, not just in a system and not just with lots of talent. He had to orchestrate the symphony.

Those two things alone, plus the fact he's young and considered a good coach by NFL standards, make him a nice choice. Plus there's the ND connection from his past and I think it's as good a fit as we can probably hope for. The Pete Carroll's, the Urban Meyer's, the Nick Saban's...they aren't coming. So, we not only need someone who is the bet we can get, but we need someone with the above two mentioned criteria IMHO.

 

[devolg]

All of this constant speculation makes me laugh

 

[The Polish Irishman]

Gruden did wear a blue and gold tie last Monday Night Football...how is that for a reach.

 

[NDinFL]

I'm with Polish on this one...it isn't a stretch by any means. Gruden has confessed to loving Notre Dame and it's lore, now I don't know if that means he would love to coach them, but the possibility isn't exactly laughable.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Let's go with a college coach please.

 

[NDMontana]

If Charlie Weis is the coach of this team next year, I honestly believe that you can pencil in 10 wins. I honestly think that he's close to having the kinks worked out. As I've said before, he's not a good coach right now....but he will be.

If Jon Gruden coaches this team-an idea that I find abhorrent-you can pencil the team in for 8-9 wins because he would, I assume, also run a pro-style offense so it wouldn't be an entirely new system/concept.

If Brian Kelly coaches the team next year, I would say six wins. He runs the spread w/ some option which a junior/senior laden team would find difficult to implement.

I disagree with the posters who say it isn't Charlie's fault that things have gone the way which they have--I think it is. I don't appreciate the excuses that are made because there should be no excuses. But I agree with the premise that Charlie Weis deserves one more year--make or break. Otherwise you're just starting over and when that coach has a bad season or two and the alumni insists on his dismissal, then you start over again. Trust me, you don't want a program that is constantly rebuilding. There's something to be said for what stability can do for a program. I think the Rooney family has proven that providing stability can be a recipe for success and success doesn't mean winning the Super Bowl or National Championship every year....it means that you have a team that is in the position to win championships each year.

 

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[DCirishfan]

weis will be back we all know it hahah

 

[Skuch22]

Grudens not comin to ND he wants to coach in the NFL

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

I don't think we are winning 10 games no matter who is head coach because we will have a new QB, a new wide receiver alongside Floyd, new offensive tackles, and most likely a new defensive coordinator. It's a rebuilding year next year. Stanford, USC, and Pitt will all be very tough games.