We have #4, who do you guys think...

[OCIrish]

will be next? I don't have the first damned clue, but I'd like to see us get a big fish to help pick things back up.

 

[jason_h537]

Most likely it will be one of the following:

Matt James
Cody Riggs
Blake Leuders
Spencer Boyd
Chance Carter

Most of the big fish out there are gonna milk their recruitment to the end or close to it

 

[The Polish Irishman]

Lo Wood is my guess

 

[jason_h537]

If we offer Cameron Roberson i'm sure he will quickly commit like Welch did.

 

[irishmarine]

what about montana?

 

[jason_h537]

The guys mentioned above have stated that they are leaning Notre Dame. Montana does plan on commiting in the next month or so, but not so sure it will be with the Irish. On the positve side, we have just as good a shot as anyone else he is considering.

 

[BGIF]

Yo Nick!

Mama's Callin'!

 

[jason_h537]

With Hinder commiting to Cal, that is less competition for Nick at Notre Dame. Ohio State have also offered QB Andrew Hendrix so maybe they don't feel so confident with Nick as well. Then agian, this could also just be me reading too much into things

 

[TDHeysus]

With Hinder commiting to Cal, that is less competition for Nick at Notre Dame.

Is Nick Montana that good? Does he look like he would ever start at a top tier D1(or whatever division they call it now) school?

 

[notredomer23]

Is Nick Montana that good? Does he look like he would ever start at a top tier D1(or whatever division they call it now) school?

he has a scholarship offer from us, OSU, UGA, Alabama so yeah he can play.

Our next will come this month in a trio of Florida Corners IMO.

By the end of the summer I think our class will number about 10 adding nick, Carter, and Matt James

 

[Irish52]

When a recruit thinks he is king of the hill, he sometimes outsmarts himself into beleiving that everyone will wait until he is finished stroking his ego. I seem to remember a qtrbk from Arkansas who now finds himself at 3rd or 4th string and may not get to play at all. EGO can be a very cruel attribute to have!!!

 

[BGIF]

Is Nick Montana that good? Does he look like he would ever start at a top tier D1(or whatever division they call it now) school?

Would he ever start for a D1 school? He should. Probably not like Quinn or Clausen as a freshman but they started from necessity as the record shows. Quinn blossomed as a Junior as Clausen is expected to. Two years behind Crist would give Montana ample time to add pounds, (he's 185), strength, and maturity.

Currently Rivals rates him 4 Star as a Jr and ranks him as the #12 Pro Style QB.

Brady Quinn was as a Sr was also rated 4 Star and ranked as the #10 Pro Style QB. That same year the #25 QB was a 3 Star kid named Matt Ryan.

Montana was selected the Best Player at the Berkeley Elite 11 (QB Competition) over Austin Hinder.

Montana shines at Berkeley Elite 11 - Insider - ESPN

Montana was the most consistent from start to finish.

He seemed to get stronger as the day went on and showed improved arm strength from a year ago. Montana has a great frame, was solid on his drops, had a quick release and was spinning it very well. He plays with a swagger and has excellent leadership skills. Combined with some very good junior film, it's easy to see why Montana is one of the most heavily-recruited quarterbacks in the country.

 

[phork]

I'm still not sold on the QB being the lynch pin in the teams offense. As Trent Dilfer confirmed if you can hold on to the ball, hand it off without fumbling and run an easy passing game you can win the Superbowl.
Frankly Matt Ryan never impressed me and imo is a just a decent QB that knows when to hold'em. I would have liked to have seen him start in Detroit where things were clearly not set up like ATL was.

 

[BillyIrish]

phork you are joking right? I think Bears fans can attest to Matt Ryan's ability...

The formula you mentioned works if you have one of the greatest defenses in the history of the game. How many other Super Bowl champions have not had great QB play in the playoffs? How about the Cardinals? Are they in the Super Bowl with Leinart? How many Super Bowls do the Patriots win with Drew Bledsoe and not Brady? The QB is by far the most important position on the field!

 

[OCIrish]

I'm still not sold on the QB being the lynch pin in the teams offense. As Trent Dilfer confirmed if you can hold on to the ball, hand it off without fumbling and run an easy passing game you can win the Superbowl.
Frankly Matt Ryan never impressed me and imo is a just a decent QB that knows when to hold'em. I would have liked to have seen him start in Detroit where things were clearly not set up like ATL was.

Yeah, and um, having the top D in the NFL had absolutely nothing to do with that at all, right? C'mon, please find a better example than that.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

phork you are joking right? I think Bears fans can attest to Matt Ryan's ability...

The formula you mentioned works if you have one of the greatest defenses in the history of the game. How many other Super Bowl champions have not had great QB play in the playoffs? How about the Cardinals? Are they in the Super Bowl with Leinart? How many Super Bowls do the Patriots win with Drew Bledsoe and not Brady? The QB is by far the most important position on the field!

Aw man, did you have to bring that up... I just got over that.

 

[phork]

Thats my point. Most championship teams have lights out Defenses and its no different in college ball. There are countless teams that have had average QBing and won it all. NY Giants come to mind.. And if you start telling me that Eli Manning is an elite QB I will bitch slap you.

 

[WabashFalcon]

Number five? Cody Riggs. Mark it down.

 

[notredomer23]

Number five? Cody Riggs. Mark it down.

hes already committed if u read articles but his coach wont let him

 

[WabashFalcon]

hes already committed if u read articles but his coach wont let him

I know. Just playing the percentages. He he.

 

[IrishAddiction]

Montana can play, likely will be irish. But our next commit..... Mr. Seantrel Henderson.

Okay maybe just wishful thinking but i can dream right.

 

[NDinL.A.]

I'm still not sold on the QB being the lynch pin in the teams offense. As Trent Dilfer confirmed if you can hold on to the ball, hand it off without fumbling and run an easy passing game you can win the Superbowl.
Frankly Matt Ryan never impressed me and imo is a just a decent QB that knows when to hold'em. I would have liked to have seen him start in Detroit where things were clearly not set up like ATL was.

That's just a bad argument Phork. Pretty much everyone in football, from GM's to coaches to scouts to players, disagrees with you. QB is widely considered THE most important and toughest position in football, if not all of sports. Besides Eli, the past SB winners were Tom Brady (multiple times, Peyton Manning, and Ben Roth (twice). Those guys, even Ben, are elite QB's. NE's defense and Indy's defenses are NOT elite, but their QB's are. The QB is absolutely the lynch-pin in an offense.

Now, ATL was set up to win? Weren't they a franchise in distress with a rookie coach and a rookie QB coming off a 3 win season??? Yes, they added some pieces, but one those was the ROOKIE OF THE YEAR in Matt Ryan. His first pass was a p-rod that went for a 60 yd TD. All of a sudden those 'bust' receivers were now playing like all-pros. Yeah, a QB makes a difference. And Matt Ryan can ball. Just ask ATL...

 

[phork]

I never said it wasn't an important or tough position, but to win a superbowl its been proven over and over that you don't need an elite QB to do it. Someone who manages the ball without turning it over a lot. Now I'm not saying that in 10 years time Mr. Ryan won't have his share of titles, but from what I saw in college I just don't see it. Of course everyone was is gaga over him now, over the year he had. But like I said ATL was made into a decent team before Ryan stepped in. Had he started in DET he would be well on his way to JoeyHarringtonville.

 

[Junkhead]

\Eli Manning is an elite QB

You said it first!!!

 

[Irishlew]

I never said it wasn't an important or tough position, but to win a superbowl its been proven over and over that you don't need an elite QB to do it. Someone who manages the ball without turning it over a lot. Now I'm not saying that in 10 years time Mr. Ryan won't have his share of titles, but from what I saw in college I just don't see it. Of course everyone was is gaga over him now, over the year he had. But like I said ATL was made into a decent team before Ryan stepped in. Had he started in DET he would be well on his way to JoeyHarringtonville.

I'll have some of what your having.


Bart Starr, Green Bay Packers - SB I
Bart Starr, Green Bay Packers - SB II
Joe Namath, New York Jets - SBIII
Len Dawson, Kansas City Chiefs - SB IV
Johnny Unitas, Baltimore Colts - SB V
Roger Staubach, Dallas Cowboys - SB VI
Bob Griese, Miami Dolphins - SB VII
Bob Griese, Miami Dolphins - SB VIII
Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Steelers - SB IX
Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Steelers - SB X
Ken Stabler, Oakland Raiders - SB XI
Roger Staubach, Dallas Cowboys - SB XII
Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Steelers - SB XIII
Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Steelers - SB XIV
Jim Plunkett, Oakland Raiders - SB XV
Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers - SB XVI
Joe Theismann, Washington Redskins - SB XVII
Jim Plunkett, Los Angeles Raiders - SB XVIII
Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers - SB XIX
Jim McMahon, Chicago Bears - SB XX
Phil Simms, New York Giants - SB XXI
Doug Williams, Washington Redskins - SB XXII
Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers - SB XXIII
Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers - SB XXIV
Jeff Hostetler, New York Giants - SB XXV
Mark Rypien, Washington Redskins - SB XXVI
Troy Aikman, Dallas Cowboys - SB XXVII
Troy Aikman, Dallas Cowboys - SB XXVIII
Steve Young, San Francisco 49ers - SB XXIX
Troy Aikman, Dallas Cowboys - SB XXX
Brett Favre, Green Bay Packers - SB XXXI
John Elway, Denver Broncos - SB XXXII
John Elway, Denver Broncos - SB XXXIII
Kurt Warner, St. Louis Rams - SB XXXIV
Trent Dilfer, Baltimore Ravens - SB XXXV
Tom Brady, New England Patriots - SB XXXVI
Brad Johnson, Tampa Bay Buccaneers - SB XXXVII
Tom Brady, New England Patriots - SB XXXVIII
Tom Brady, New England Patriots - SB XXXIX
Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers - SB XL
Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts - SB XLI
Eli Manning, New York Giants - SB XLII
Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers - SB XLIII


Jeff Hostetler, Mark Rypien, and Jim McMahon were fantastic QB's but probably not on the same level as the one's in bold. Eli Manning is still young and could definitely make the elite list before it's all said and done. Point of this is to prove how very wrong you are. You need an elite QB to win the Super Bowl. Just because 5 out of 43 weren't elite doesn't mean by any one's standards that it's been proven over and over again. Just stop now and concede defeat, because your argument has zero merit.

 

[WabashFalcon]

I never said it wasn't an important or tough position, but to win a superbowl its been proven over and over that you don't need an elite QB to do it. Someone who manages the ball without turning it over a lot. Now I'm not saying that in 10 years time Mr. Ryan won't have his share of titles, but from what I saw in college I just don't see it. Of course everyone was is gaga over him now, over the year he had. But like I said ATL was made into a decent team before Ryan stepped in. Had he started in DET he would be well on his way to JoeyHarringtonville.

You been hanging out with NDOM lately? If so... puff puff pass. Plez.

 

[jason_h537]

So yeah our next commit will likely be either:

Cody Riggs
Blake Leuders
Chance Carter
Spencer Boyd
Matt James
or Cameron Roberson if they decide to offer him.

 

[irishmarine]

dilfer and mcmahon had two of the best defenses ever to help them along. rypien had a great all around team with the kind of leadership that teams nowadays can only read about from top to bottom and hostetler was in the right place at the right time with a great defense and the coaches on that staff are unbelievable. even our own CW was on that staff. but it takes a TEAM to win a superbowl. not just a great qb. marino kelly and kozar are thre really good to great qb's in the last 25 years and they never won. ok so kozar was on dallas when they won a superbowl but that hardly counts.

 

[BillyIrish]

phork bitch slap yourself for not reading what i wrote.

I said in the playoffs! Eli was pretty elite in the 2007 playoffs. 6TD's 1INT.

now back to the thread...

my guess is Chance Carter will be #5...

 

[jason_h537]

Looks like we were all off. Hopefully we get another surprise and Anthony Barr decides to come home.