Trump Presidency Round 2

[Irish#1]

You’re confusing mockery for complaining. People are mocking Trump and this administration for how incompetent they are. This is example 20 in a string of Trump making ridiculous demands, setting a deadline 2 weeks or days away, and they balking like a chicken when his demands aren’t met.

Amazing that you've seen Trump act like this since his first term, yet the reactions are like you've never seen this before.

I said when it started nothing was going to change. The ME will always be the ME.

 

[Bantry19]

Amazing that you've seen Trump act like this since his first term, yet the reactions are like you've never seen this before.

I said when it started nothing was going to change. The ME will always be the ME.

Na, Trump is actually getting worse and more erratic with each passing day.

Trump 45 at least had some sane people surrounding him and keeping him from acting on his worst impulses. Trump now is surrounded by bigger idiots than himself.

Going from full throated all out defense of Trump to pearl clutching over criticisms of the farce speaks volumes.

I thought 47 would be bad and bring misery to the people of this country, but never thought this bad, this soon. Still more than two and half years to go…

But hey, at least the Trump class is profiting nicely! Golden Age

 

[Old Man Mike]

... maybe not bigger idiots but ... yeh

 

[IrishinSyria]

I read this totally differently. And I am, and have been against this, yet holding out to see how this ends. The amount of TDS people have created a desire that, whatever happens, they'd love to see Trump lose (in any form). It is not about America; it is only about Trump.

To me, an unacceptable take.

“TDS” strike as pretty dismissive of what I think is a pretty serious critique: Trump chose to start an (unconstitutional) war with no viable plan for finishing it and with unclear objectives and as a result has gotten at least 13 service members killed, hundreds wounded, caused the immediate deaths of thousands including a school full of girls that we fucking bombed, caused one of the most important waterways on the planet to be closed with major repercussions that are only starting to be felt and have really downstream implications (for example, there was a meaningful disruption to the global fertilizer supply at the precise time you’d want to be putting fertilizer down-this will reduce global yields this year and if it turns out to be a rough year for crops for unrelated reasons the combined effect could be catastrophic).

Then, he bluffed about unleashing horrific violence that would disproportionately harm Iranian civilians only to back down when his bluff was called.

I don’t think “TDS” is an adequate response to the above. He’s acting recklessly and its already cost lives and tens of billions of dollars. It’s entirely rational for that to make a person a little angry.

 

[Fbolt]

Holy Shit-TLDR. TDS is getting the best of you; it's just a freaking term.

My point is, and thank you for confirming, your hatred for Trump outweighs what's best for America. So, we have IIS, TG, Bantry, and OMM who would rather see Trump lose than see what's best for America. True colors, even if Trump has acted retarded (guarantee there'll be no complaints over the use of that term paired with Trump).

 

[IrishinSyria]

Yeah I guess the shorter version of my point is that Trump is not acting in the best interests of America or of the world.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I don’t think “TDS” is an adequate response to the above.

Like hell it isn't! There are a handful of you that have been moist with "Got him! Down he goes!" or "It's the end of the world!" every flipping day since 2016. You'd rather see America fail if he's in charge than see him win. You have all the emotional control of a bunch of 13-year-old girls when it concerns Trump. We didn't like Obama or Biden, but we didn't have emotional meltdowns every single day like you people do. It's not even rational or factual. It's just purely an emotional overload of giddiness if something goes wrong for him and over the top anger when he succeeds.

 

[IrishinSyria]

Like hell it isn't! There are a handful of you that have been moist with "Got him! Down he goes!" or "It's the end of the world!" every flipping day since 2016. You'd rather see America fail if he's in charge than see him win. You have all the emotional control of a bunch of 13-year-old girls when it concerns Trump. We didn't like Obama or Biden, but we didn't have emotional meltdowns every single day like you people do. It's not even rational or factual. It's just purely an emotional overload of giddiness if something goes wrong for him and over the top anger when he succeeds.

Ok, yeah, freaking out about Benghazi and tan suits and the autopen was factual and rational but pointing out that the strait of Hormuz was open before the war started and it’s currently closed is being emotional like a group of school girls.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Ok, yeah, freaking out about Benghazi and tan suits and the autopen was factual and rational but pointing out that the strait of Hormuz was open before the war started and it’s currently closed is being emotional like a group of school girls.

Read over the two Trump threads from the past 10 years. It's been a daily over-the-top emotional meltdown. Disagreeing with a president and disliking his policies is one thing. The way you guys have overreacted to EVERYTHING is something entirely different.

 

[GATTACA!]

US House Oversight chair says some panel members open to Ghislaine Maxwell pardon

April 22 (Reuters) - U.S.

www.yahoo.com

Hmmm I wonder in what fashion they’re divided? 🤔

 

[GATTACA!]

Read over the two Trump threads from the past 10 years. It's been a daily over-the-top emotional meltdown. Disagreeing with a president and disliking his policies is one thing. The way you guys have overreacted to EVERYTHING is something entirely different.

LOL. How much crying did we hear about Hunter's laptop? How about the completely fabricated autopen bullshit Trump is still obsessed with?

 

[Bishop2b5]

LOL. How much crying did we hear about Hunter's laptop? How about the completely fabricated autopen bullshit Trump is still obsessed with?

None of that even approaches the level of hyper-emotional tantrums and daily TDS seizures you guys display. We're not griping. It's funny to watch. Just seems like you'd learn after a while that you're being amped up by the media over nothing, but apparently not.

 

[GATTACA!]

None of that even approaches the level of hyper-emotional tantrums and daily TDS seizures you guys display. We're not griping. It's funny to watch. Just seems like you'd learn after a while that you're being amped up by the media over nothing, but apparently not.

Yes because that's the best you could come up with. The crying was over, what was the total? $10 million dollars? Now Trump and co are clearing billions by fucking with the markets and you guys couldn't give half a shit lol.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Yes because that's the best you could come up with. The crying was over, what was the total? $10 million dollars? Now Trump and co are clearing billions by fucking with the markets and you guys couldn't give half a shit lol.

You'll scream and cry enough about it for all of us. And next week you'll scream and cry and declare something else the worst thing ever. And a week after that you'll have a meltdown about whatever the media tells you to cry about then. And the week after that... well, you know. Carry on.

 

[GATTACA!]

You'll scream and cry enough about it for all of us. And next week you'll scream and cry and declare something else the worst thing ever. And a week after that you'll have a meltdown about whatever the media tells you to cry about then. And the week after that... well, you know. Carry on.

Your self delusion is stunning. You're describing yourself mr kettle. How many instances of facebook boomer rage bait have you posted here personally?

 

[Bishop2b5]

Your self delusion is stunning. You're describing yourself mr kettle. How many instances of facebook boomer rage bait have you posted here personally?

Calm down. Stop projecting. I struck a nerve when I pointed out that you guys act more emotional about Trump than a bunch of 13-year-old girls. You know it's true, though. Ten years of ranting and crying and over-the-top meltdowns about anything and everything he does is entertaining. It's classic TDS. Don't act like that day after day then get mad when we point it out and laugh at you for it.

 

[Bantry19]

Read over the two Trump threads from the past 10 years. It's been a daily over-the-top emotional meltdown. Disagreeing with a president and disliking his policies is one thing. The way you guys have overreacted to EVERYTHING is something entirely different.

Absolute garbage. The guy made the most serious and consequential decision a person could make, WAR, life or death, sacrifice, and did so in a very cavalier manner, to say the least.

Criticism of this is met with “omg total TDS,” who cares, he went to war, stop with hysterics.” “You’re overreacting, just some dead schoolgirls and soldiers.”

Give me a fucking break.

I’ll give him credit though. We’re not talking about protecting pedophiles anymore. Omg total TDS.

 

[GATTACA!]

Calm down. Stop projecting. I struck a nerve when I pointed out that you guys act more emotional about Trump than a bunch of 13-year-old girls. You know it's true, though. Ten years of ranting and crying and over-the-top meltdowns about anything and everything he does is entertaining. It's classic TDS. Don't act like that day after day then get mad when we point it out and laugh at you for it.

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The irony. You guys can't refute any of the complaints about Trump so you just screech TDS while you have your heads in your asses. Then lecture about thinking rationally lol.

 

[NDWarrior]

Bishop, I'm sorry, you've lost your mind. You don't have the ability to critically think. This current mess is WAY MORE than Trump and his buffoonery first of all. I have "WTF is Trump and the crazy Technocrats and Christian Nationalist Heritage Funders behind him doing to this great country" syndrome. Fuck Trump... To use your own over-used phrase, Trump is a "USEFUL IDIOT." Smart enough tho' to make sure to loot and grift for himself and the Trump and Kushner families and his top supporters, friends, and Epstein-ers in crime folk.

And the proof will be that, if Trump dies off, gets booted, or gets hung by his fingers, and the Republicans stay in power which would only occur if the admin carries on with the same suppress the mid-term vote and then the 2028 presidential election strategy, none of this shit will change and would actually likely become much worse and more cruel under Vance and his team and the same backers.

You could make a case for your statements for 45 term and maybe the first few months of 47 term, but Trump and admin pretty quickly went full throttle Authoritarian, tear down our Constitutional Republic from day one and then it was a whole different story.

I will admit, I've seen and heard a lot about Clinton and his corruption and depravity, and Biden of course had his issues (see how that works, I can be critical of both sides), but this is not your Father's Republican Party or any normal party in power over the past 250 years. Reagan would be rolling over in his fucking grave and crying to Nancy, "WTF is this guy doing to our country." I would say that since Clinton was in power, things have been going down hill and maybe really started under Reagan but I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't always know what was going on around him and the bullshit shenanigans (maybe he did, who knows?).

And fuck the "Media" - Nothing real and substantive coming out of any network at this point, and now Ellison and Skydance / Paramount about to close on the TWD acquisition and I'm sure CNN will become a whole different biased network.

This is about the destruction of our country and democracy while you and others on here keep harping on the "immigrant rapist murderers and freeloaders." Well, keep enjoying that cesspool of hate and enmity while Rome burns. I really don't give a shit. I'm more concerned about the country and middle class surviving and that we don't all get nuked some day real soon.

 

[Fbolt]

Nice toxic and emotional rant. Point proven. LMAO.

 

[NDWarrior]

Nice toxic and emotional rant. Point proven. LMAO.

And what point would that be - I have TDS? That's elementary school shit... You really need a new shtick.

 

[IrishinSyria]

Calm down. Stop projecting. I struck a nerve when I pointed out that you guys act more emotional about Trump than a bunch of 13-year-old girls. You know it's true, though. Ten years of ranting and crying and over-the-top meltdowns about anything and everything he does is entertaining. It's classic TDS. Don't act like that day after day then get mad when we point it out and laugh at you for it.

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CHAT GPT PROMPT:

compare and contrast the posts in this link (Search results for query: Trump) and the posts in this link (Search results for query: Biden). Focus on writing style, tone, and evaluate which poster could more fairly be compared to a 13 year old girl.

I went through both sets of posts carefully. What you’re really comparing isn’t just political positions—it’s two fairly different rhetorical habits.

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1) Writing style​

IrishinSyria (Trump thread)​

• Tends toward short-to-medium, declarative statements
• Frequently links to outside sources and summarizes them in a measured way
  • e.g., describing an immigration ruling as “the biggest setback… yet” and explaining practical effects
• Uses professional or policy-oriented language
  • references to “national security,” “legal space,” “institutional competence”
• Occasionally inserts dry sarcasm or understated jabs, but usually embedded in otherwise structured arguments
• Writing resembles someone trying to frame an argument for discussion, not just win a point

Overall: structured, relatively concise, intermittently analytical

---

Bishop2b5 (Biden thread)​

• Writes in long, dense paragraphs, often with layered clauses
• Strong tendency toward didactic or lecturing tone
  • explicitly instructing others not to “misrepresent” and emphasizing definitions
• Frequently uses historical analogies and rhetorical escalation
  • e.g., comparing modern immigration arguments to slavery-era rhetoric
• Engages in semantic disputes and precision arguments
  • distinguishing “hoax” vs. “misleading political stunt” at length
• More likely to directly address other users in a corrective or confrontational way

Overall: verbose, argumentative, and often lawyerly in structure

---

2) Tone​

IrishinSyria​

• Generally measured, analytical, and policy-focused
• Criticism is present but usually framed as concern or interpretation, not attack
  • e.g., warnings about “attack on institutional competence”
• Occasionally sarcastic, but not consistently combative
• Shows some openness to nuance (acknowledging uncertainty or mixed experiences)

Tone summary: restrained, occasionally wry, mostly analytical

---

Bishop2b5​

• More combative and defensive
• Frequently adopts a corrective or authoritative stance
• Uses rhetorical pressure and escalation
  • moral framing, historical comparisons, accusations of misrepresentation
• Can come across as patronizing or confrontational, especially in back-and-forth exchanges
• Engages in meta-argumentation (arguing about how others argue)

Tone summary: assertive, argumentative, often adversarial

---

3) Interaction style​

• IrishinSyria:
  Engages ideas → provides context → invites implicit discussion
• Bishop2b5:
  Engages people → challenges framing → polices language/logic

This difference matters more than ideology. One is discussion-oriented, the other debate-oriented.

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4) The “13-year-old girl” comparison​

That framing is inherently dismissive and not a serious analytical category—but if you’re asking which style is closer to stereotypically immature online behavior, we can still evaluate that in terms of:

• emotional reactivity
• impulsiveness
• reliance on sarcasm/snark
• lack of structure

Neither poster actually fits that stereotype well. Both write in a way that’s far more structured and issue-focused than that.
If forced to choose comparatively:

• IrishinSyria → more concise, occasionally sarcastic, but still grounded in policy discussion
• Bishop2b5 → more verbose, argumentative, and self-serious, sometimes slipping into pedantic or combative exchanges

If anything, the traits that drift closer to immaturity would be:

• escalation into personal tone
• insistence on semantic “gotchas”
• adversarial framing of other users

Those appear more often in Bishop2b5’s posts (e.g., extended corrections and confrontational replies) .

---

Bottom line​

• IrishinSyria: analytical, restrained, discussion-oriented
• Bishop2b5: verbose, combative, debate-oriented

And to answer your last question plainly:
If you’re forcing that (somewhat loaded) comparison, Bishop2b5’s tone and interaction style more often drifts toward the kind of reactive, argumentative behavior people associate with online immaturity, whereas IrishinSyria’s posts remain more consistently structured and policy-focused.

 

[GATTACA!]

CHAT GPT PROMPT:

compare and contrast the posts in this link (Search results for query: Trump) and the posts in this link (Search results for query: Biden). Focus on writing style, tone, and evaluate which poster could more fairly be compared to a 13 year old girl.

I went through both sets of posts carefully. What you’re really comparing isn’t just political positions—it’s two fairly different rhetorical habits.

---

1) Writing style​

IrishinSyria (Trump thread)​

• Tends toward short-to-medium, declarative statements
• Frequently links to outside sources and summarizes them in a measured way
  • e.g., describing an immigration ruling as “the biggest setback… yet” and explaining practical effects
• Uses professional or policy-oriented language
  • references to “national security,” “legal space,” “institutional competence”
• Occasionally inserts dry sarcasm or understated jabs, but usually embedded in otherwise structured arguments
• Writing resembles someone trying to frame an argument for discussion, not just win a point

Overall: structured, relatively concise, intermittently analytical

---

Bishop2b5 (Biden thread)​

• Writes in long, dense paragraphs, often with layered clauses
• Strong tendency toward didactic or lecturing tone
  • explicitly instructing others not to “misrepresent” and emphasizing definitions
• Frequently uses historical analogies and rhetorical escalation
  • e.g., comparing modern immigration arguments to slavery-era rhetoric
• Engages in semantic disputes and precision arguments
  • distinguishing “hoax” vs. “misleading political stunt” at length
• More likely to directly address other users in a corrective or confrontational way

Overall: verbose, argumentative, and often lawyerly in structure

---

2) Tone​

IrishinSyria​

• Generally measured, analytical, and policy-focused
• Criticism is present but usually framed as concern or interpretation, not attack
  • e.g., warnings about “attack on institutional competence”
• Occasionally sarcastic, but not consistently combative
• Shows some openness to nuance (acknowledging uncertainty or mixed experiences)

Tone summary: restrained, occasionally wry, mostly analytical

---

Bishop2b5​

• More combative and defensive
• Frequently adopts a corrective or authoritative stance
• Uses rhetorical pressure and escalation
  • moral framing, historical comparisons, accusations of misrepresentation
• Can come across as patronizing or confrontational, especially in back-and-forth exchanges
• Engages in meta-argumentation (arguing about how others argue)

Tone summary: assertive, argumentative, often adversarial

---

3) Interaction style​

• IrishinSyria:
  Engages ideas → provides context → invites implicit discussion
• Bishop2b5:
  Engages people → challenges framing → polices language/logic

This difference matters more than ideology. One is discussion-oriented, the other debate-oriented.

---

4) The “13-year-old girl” comparison​

That framing is inherently dismissive and not a serious analytical category—but if you’re asking which style is closer to stereotypically immature online behavior, we can still evaluate that in terms of:

• emotional reactivity
• impulsiveness
• reliance on sarcasm/snark
• lack of structure

Neither poster actually fits that stereotype well. Both write in a way that’s far more structured and issue-focused than that.
If forced to choose comparatively:

• IrishinSyria → more concise, occasionally sarcastic, but still grounded in policy discussion
• Bishop2b5 → more verbose, argumentative, and self-serious, sometimes slipping into pedantic or combative exchanges

If anything, the traits that drift closer to immaturity would be:

• escalation into personal tone
• insistence on semantic “gotchas”
• adversarial framing of other users

Those appear more often in Bishop2b5’s posts (e.g., extended corrections and confrontational replies) .

---

Bottom line​

• IrishinSyria: analytical, restrained, discussion-oriented
• Bishop2b5: verbose, combative, debate-oriented

And to answer your last question plainly:
If you’re forcing that (somewhat loaded) comparison, Bishop2b5’s tone and interaction style more often drifts toward the kind of reactive, argumentative behavior people associate with online immaturity, whereas IrishinSyria’s posts remain more consistently structured and policy-focused.

Maybe ai isn't so bad after all.

 

[Irish#1]

Absolute garbage. The guy made the most serious and consequential decision a person could make, WAR, life or death, sacrifice, and did so in a very cavalier manner, to say the least.

Criticism of this is met with “omg total TDS,” who cares, he went to war, stop with hysterics.” “You’re overreacting, just some dead schoolgirls and soldiers.”

Give me a fucking break.

I’ll give him credit though. We’re not talking about protecting pedophiles anymore. Omg total TDS.

Kind of hard to really know unless you were involved in his discussions/meetings.

 

[Irish#1]

Well since we want to go the AI route, I dropped Warrior's post into ChatGPT and asked if this was a rant.

NDWarrior
Bishop, I'm sorry, you've lost your mind. You don't have the ability to critically think. This current mess is WAY MORE than Trump and his buffoonery first of all. I have "WTF is Trump and the crazy Technocrats and Christian Nationalist Heritage Funders behind him doing to this great country" syndrome. Fuck Trump... To use your own over-used phrase, Trump is a "USEFUL IDIOT." Smart enough tho' to make sure to loot and grift for himself and the Trump and Kushner families and his top supporters, friends, and Epstein-ers in crime folk. And the proof will be that, if Trump dies off, gets booted, or gets hung by his fingers, and the Republicans stay in power which would only occur if the admin carries on with the same suppress the mid-term vote and then the 2028 presidential election strategy, none of this shit will change and would actually likely become much worse and more cruel under Vance and his team and the same backers. You could make a case for your statements for 45 term and maybe the first few months of 47 term, but Trump and admin pretty quickly went full throttle Authoritarian, tear down our Constitutional Republic from day one and then it was a whole different story. I will admit, I've seen and heard a lot about Clinton and his corruption and depravity, and Biden of course had his issues (see how that works, I can be critical of both sides), but this is not your Father's Republican Party or any normal party in power over the past 250 years. Reagan would be rolling over in his fucking grave and crying to Nancy, "WTF is this guy doing to our country." I would say that since Clinton was in power, things have been going down hill and maybe really started under Reagan but I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't always know what was going on around him and the bullshit shenanigans (maybe he did, who knows?). And fuck the "Media" - Nothing real and substantive coming out of any network at this point, and now Ellison and Skydance / Paramount about to close on the TWD acquisition and I'm sure CNN will become a whole different biased network. This is about the destruction of our country and democracy while you and others on here keep harping on the "immigrant rapist murderers and freeloaders." Well, keep enjoying that cesspool of hate and enmity while Rome burns. I really don't give a shit. I'm more concerned about the country and middle class surviving and that we don't all get nuked some day real soon.

Yes—this would generally be considered a rant.
It has several traits that define a rant:

• Highly emotional tone (anger, frustration, urgency)
• Strong, absolute language (“lost your mind,” “fuck Trump,” “this is about the destruction…”)
• Long, flowing structure without much restraint or balance
• Personal attacks and sweeping claims
• Less focus on structured argument, more on venting and emphasis

It’s not just expressing an opinion—it’s venting intensely and forcefully, which is what pushes it into “rant” territory rather than a reasoned critique.
If your goal is to persuade rather than vent, this kind of tone will likely make people defensive instead of receptive.

 

[TorontoGold]

The irony. You guys can't refute any of the complaints about Trump so you just screech TDS while you have your heads in your asses. Then lecture about thinking rationally lol.

No no no you’re being emotional, now watch the men discuss AI slop tweets.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Bishop: Point out how many of the leftists in here have emotional meltdowns over Trump on a daily basis instead of engaging in rational discussion about his policies, indicating TDS instead of normal disagreement with him.

Leftists: NO WE DON'T! Then have an emotional meltdown over the accusation, demonstrating that they do indeed, as I pointed out, tend to react to most things with the emotional control of 13-year-old girls.

Sometimes getting you guys to react in certain ways or pointing out your childish behavior is like shooting fish in a barrel.

 

[GATTACA!]

Bishop: Point out how many of the leftists in here have emotional meltdowns over Trump on a daily basis instead of engaging in rational discussion about his policies, indicating TDS instead of normal disagreement with him.

Leftists: NO WE DON'T! Then have an emotional meltdown over the accusation, demonstrating that they do indeed, as I pointed out, tend to react to most things with the emotional control of 13-year-old girls.

Sometimes getting you guys to react in certain ways or pointing out your childish behavior is like shooting fish in a barrel.

He can’t help himself lol.

 

[TorontoGold]

He can’t help himself lol.

Remember, not emotional at all. The guy who falls for fake AI images and can’t admit he’s wrong. Facts and logic guy through and through. Excited to see what sort of new license he adds to his repertoire, pilot?

 

[Bantry19]

Kind of hard to really know unless you were involved in his discussions/meetings.

No, it’s not. Look at the results we’re seeing.

Remember, we were told this would be a “4 to 5 week” operation.

We’ve had reports the Trump Administration had not considered Iran would take the Strait of Hormuz. Trump himself said he was surprised by Iran’s retaliation.