2025 College Football Playoffs

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wizards8507 said:
The problem is that nobody lost. The way the last few weeks of the season unfolded with ZERO upsets was basically a mathematical impossibility and the only path that could have gotten us into this situation. By all rights Notre Dame and Miami should have both been in.
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They had us ahead the entire process except this morning. When push came to shove they went with their conference partners, not us. They don't care about us. And ESPN has been advocating the entire process on every single broadcast to have us excluded. ESPN is making money with or without us and while they might like to have us, they're not going to let their financial investment (the ACC) miss the playoffs and the money that comes with it.
 
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I'm done with college football until the playoff system is fixed. This level of corruption to protect Alabama is one of the most insane things I've witnessed. What is the fucking point of playing a whole season, if at the very end, a bunch of suits just say "thanks, but sorry, you're out, because we said so." I'm done.

ND needs to file a lawsuit against whomever they can. The amount of the money that cost the university should not go unnoticed. ND should not stand for being bullied. Take a stand.
 
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Huntr said:
I don't even think it was that. Committee protected the CCGs by not dropping Bama, then protected the P4 conferences by making sure the ACC had a rep.

That meant screwing ND. ESPN commentators have lobbied for weeks for ND to get left out, and it showed today.
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How does this protect the CCGs? If I'm in a CCG next season, I'm resting 100% of my starters.
 
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wizards8507 said:
How does this protect the CCGs? If I'm in a CCG next season, I'm resting 100% of my starters.
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If Bama had dropped out because they lost the CCG, the CCGs would go away.

You might rest your starters next time but the game will still exist. That's how.
 
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NDRock said:
I’ll say
9. Miami
10. Bama
11. ND

I just don’t see them leaving out a bubble Bama team two years in a row and the ACC will want at least one team. Dumb reasons of course but it is CFB.
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Not trying to take a victory lap, but I think too many people on this board think the committee's main objective is getting the best possible teams in the playoff. The main objective will always be appeasing their stakeholders and after that it's about the football. I think several factors went against us:

- Bama got left out last year and the SEC only got 3 teams. They were going to get the benefit of the doubt this year.
- Duke winning and almost shutting out a power 4 conference. ND is a huge brand but not above the entire ACC.
- Notre Dame being in last year. I think all the articles about the $20 million dollars they got to keep probably left a bitter taste in others. They didn't get the benefit of the doubt this year.
- All the pressure from talking heads, politicians, etc..
 
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I'm just tired.

The benefit of the doubt that the SEC continues to receive is exhausting. Anyone with eyeballs knows that Bama has been leaking oil since the end of October. Them not dropping a single spot after getting boat raced yesterday, while every other conference championship loser did, is just the icing on the cake.

Go to the Pop Tarts Bowl and beat BYU by 75. And then do the same to Miami next November.
 
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NDRock said:
Not trying to take a victory lap, but I think too many people on this board think the committee's main objective is getting the best possible teams in the playoff. The main objective will always be appeasing their stakeholders and after that it's about the football. I think several factors went against us:

- Bama got left out last year and the SEC only got 3 teams. They were going to get the benefit of the doubt this year.
- Duke winning and almost shutting out a power 4 conference. ND is a huge brand but not above the entire ACC.
- Notre Dame being in last year. I think all the articles about the $20 million dollars they got to keep probably left a bitter taste in others. They didn't get the benefit of the doubt this year.
- All the pressure from talking heads, politicians, etc.
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Good analysis. I was surprised by the Duke thing, tbh. Naive.
 
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There's two power conferences (SEC and B1G).

SEC has the CFP advantage between the two because the network that has their TV rights also has the CFP TV rights.

The ACC and Big 12 are the next tier down. Again, the ACC will always have the CFP advantage because of their deal with ESPN.

Then there's another tier down to the Group of 5.

We need to get out of our shitty deal with the ACC.

We have 4 choices:

1) Total independence - increasingly difficult to be able to schedule a good enough schedule.

2) ACC-esque deal with the SEC or B1G.

3) ACC-esque deal with the SEC AND B1G (5 guaranteed games against each plus Navy and Stanford).

4) Full membership in the SEC or B1G.
 
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Everyone can blame the G5 or whatever but they did what they had to do and that’s the system and it’s baked in. The issue is the conferences are too big and it causes a lot of this to be arbitrary. To some extent it has to be arbitrary but the problem is the committee putting weight on what works for them that week. Dropping BYU and not Alabama makes zero sense unless it’s the committee just doing what it wants week to week.
 
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They are desperately trying to pretend the SEC is still good. If ND got in, they can destroy all the SEC teams. If they pack it with as many SEC teams as they can, they hope they can get lucky and win.

5 trash SEC teams, two trash G5. One overrated Texas Tech. That leaves 4 teams left that have a shot to win besides that trash conference.
 
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It wasn’t the final nail in the coffin, but in hindsight, this was all because of the Alabama/ND flip last week after their “gritty” win over Auburn.

Clearly the committee was trying to protect Alabama. Just hard to believe it was going to be this egregious, especially after dropping BYU after a similar loss and saying last week ND and Bama were neck and neck.
 
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Dale said:
- These rankings just revealed the playoff is not about metrics, not about resume, not about head to head, none of it. It is a room full of business partners who decide how to allocate money.

- The loser of the SEC (or B1G) Championship game will NEVER receive a punishment that is anything but cosmetic.

- None of the P5 conferences will EVER get left out of a CFP.

- The week to week rankings and show DO NOT MATTER.

- Given the above, ND needs to seriously reconsider Independence. You cannot continue to play a rigged game.
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Yep, that’s my biggest takeaway. And those two bullet points are essentially intertwined.

None of it matters. They’ll move the pieces where they want, to get the desired outcome, at the end.
 
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