Does Notre Dame make the CFP?

[Green Mountains]

I voted No. My heart says the move up for Alabama was to keep ND away from OSU in a second round game. But my head thinks its more of an attempt to move ND and Miami closer together. If BYU loses, they drop below Miami. And there is finally a head to head comparison - for the committee who is getting a shit ton of pressure. I don't know how you keep a team with a ten game win streak who is annihilating opponents out of the CFP, but it feels like that's happening.

It just feels like its set up for a Miami ND decision point. Let's hope Bama loses and drops between ND and Miami.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

If the playoffs were about finding the best team, then ND, Miami, and Texas should all be in the field. G5, ACC champ, and Oklahoma should be dropped and conf championships shouldn't even be happening. They are an artifact of pre-playoff BCS era and even made sense in the 4 team playoff. But they are a hindrance at this point and will go away very soon.

 

[MacIrish75]

It’s hard to feel very confident in anything.

I’ve got nothing to offer that hasn’t been discussed. I have no knowledge of the gambling odds.

I just know that in a season where none of the breaks have gone our way, we’re due for one.

 

[jpachuta33]

The narrative that teams have to be sitting right next to each other in the rankings to activate certain components like head to head wins, it’s complete ignorance/BS.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

We’re in regardless of this weekend’s results.





Closes eyes and cover ears.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

The narrative that teams have to be sitting right next to each other in the rankings to activate certain components like head to head wins, it’s complete ignorance/BS.

It was their way of saying they don’t want to deal with the noise, and never expected the waves to break perfectly where they now have to.


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[InKellyWeTrust]

It was their way of saying they don’t want to deal with the noise, and never expected the waves to break perfectly where they now have to.


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They can do whatever the hell they want, clearly.

 

[irishjim]

I voted No. My heart says the move up for Alabama was to keep ND away from OSU in a second round game. But my head thinks its more of an attempt to move ND and Miami closer together. If BYU loses, they drop below Miami. And there is finally a head to head comparison - for the committee who is getting a shit ton of pressure. I don't know how you keep a team with a ten game win streak who is annihilating opponents out of the CFP, but it feels like that's happening.

It just feels like its set up for a Miami ND decision point. Let's hope Bama loses and drops between ND and Miami.

The key for Notre Dame will be that both Bama/BYU lose and they treat the losers of the games. If they treat the losers the same in the rankings, we are in. Drop them or don't, we would be in. The shitty situation would be if Bama wins, BYU loses, then all of sudden head to head is applied to us and Miami.

 

[russianirish]

Again I don’t see how a two loss tech team stays in over multiple other teams,… forget ND

Their best wins will be number (?) 4 BYU and number 15 Utah, ours are number 16 USC and unranked team (Navy/Pitt). May become a factor here.

 

[IrishBryan77]

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As of this morning… for the members who do not gamble or have any knowledge on how odds work, if you were to put $100 on Notre Dame to MAKE the playoff, you’d win $25… if you were to put $100 on Miami to MAKE the playoffs, you’d win $400.

 

[Bane]

The narrative that teams have to be sitting right next to each other in the rankings to activate certain components like head to head wins, it’s complete ignorance/BS.

Not that I believe everything they say, but their ESPN mouthpiece (Dinich) already directly refuted the idea that there's some magical number Miami has to get to to activate the head to head override protocol. They just simply had to get into our tier, they have been for 2 weeks now.

It was their way of saying they don’t want to deal with the noise, and never expected the waves to break perfectly where they now have to.


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The committee can do anything they want and will construct a post hoc justification after, but they could have just as easily done this this week. Miami is in our tier and thus compared to us, BYU played bad enough and Miami played well enough to justify flipping them (I mean, they don't need much of a justification, see their reasoning for putting Bama ahead of us) and at that point Miami would be side by side and they could have swapped us then "to honor head to head."

If you believe they didn't swap BYU and Miami to "keep a buffer" and "hold off" having to compare us side by side, well then that means they don't want to do it and why would they suddenly want to do it in about 48 hours from now? If Bama wins and BYU loses, boom they just keep BYU there and say they're not "punishing" the CCG loser.

 

[Kingbish01]

Not that I believe everything they say, but their ESPN mouthpiece (Dinich) already directly refuted the idea that there's some magical number Miami has to get to to activate the head to head override protocol. They just simply had to get into our tier, they have been for 2 weeks now.

The committee can do anything they want and will construct a post hoc justification after, but they could have just as easily done this this week. Miami is in our tier and thus compared to us, BYU played bad enough and Miami played well enough to justify flipping them (I mean, they don't need much of a justification, see their reasoning for putting Bama ahead of us) and at that point Miami would be side by side and they could have swapped us then "to honor head to head."

If you believe they didn't swap BYU and Miami to "keep a buffer" and "hold off" having to compare us side by side, well then that means they don't want to do it and why would they suddenly want to do it in about 48 hours from now? If Bama wins and BYU loses, boom they just keep BYU there and say they're not "punishing" the CCG loser.

Yep...It's like saying if UGA loses or OSU loses they stay in the top 4. OSU probably, UGA probably not.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

I think ND is easily one of the five best teams in the nation. My gut tells me the committee succumbs to pressure and ensures Miami gets in over ND. Right now it’s all mental masturbation.

 

[Kingbish01]

I think ND is easily one of the five best teams in the nation. My gut tells me the committee succumbs to pressure and ensures Miami gets in over ND. Right now it’s all mental masturbation.

See I'm on the other side, I think if they succumb to pressure it's leaving Miami out for the big money ND program who lost the head to head matchup. I mean, lets all take a minute and be so for real....If the shoe was on the other foot, we'd be losing our minds. It is what it is though.

 

[Kingbish01]

Also, I love the poll idea....But lets get these threads combined, it's easier to talk in circles and say the same thing 5 different ways if it's all kept together...LOL

PS....Look at the results and the percentages. Crazy how that works out even with a small sample.

 

[NDisme]

If they go to 16 teams (I’m not a fan) at some point. please get rid of conference championship games. Make this week a bye and start the playoffs next week.

 

[GATTACA!]

Right now it’s all mental masturbation.

Guess I’m doing it wrong 🫤

 

[FLDomer]

Expect the worse and hope for the best.

 

[NDWarrior]

Not that I believe everything they say, but their ESPN mouthpiece (Dinich) already directly refuted the idea that there's some magical number Miami has to get to to activate the head to head override protocol. They just simply had to get into our tier, they have been for 2 weeks now.

The committee can do anything they want and will construct a post hoc justification after, but they could have just as easily done this this week. Miami is in our tier and thus compared to us, BYU played bad enough and Miami played well enough to justify flipping them (I mean, they don't need much of a justification, see their reasoning for putting Bama ahead of us) and at that point Miami would be side by side and they could have swapped us then "to honor head to head."

If you believe they didn't swap BYU and Miami to "keep a buffer" and "hold off" having to compare us side by side, well then that means they don't want to do it and why would they suddenly want to do it in about 48 hours from now? If Bama wins and BYU loses, boom they just keep BYU there and say they're not "punishing" the CCG loser.

Altho' BYU is likely to get beat soundly as they were about 4-5 weeks ago by TTU which kind of affects your statement IMO.

 

[Bane]

Altho' BYU is likely to get beat soundly as they were about 4-5 weeks ago by TTU which kind of affects your statement IMO.

They don't have to drop BYU if they don't want to. They can just point to them having an "extra data point" and not wanting to punish them. They could also drop them. At the end of the day, I feel the committee knows who they want in and if the chips fall the right way, they'll make up whatever justification they require to make it happen. If BYU wins, their hands are tied.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I think ND is easily one of the five best teams in the nation. My gut tells me the committee succumbs to pressure and ensures Miami gets in over ND. Right now it’s all mental masturbation.

Channeling your inner Sammy Hagar?

 

[jpachuta33]

 

[Kingbish01]

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I'd bet ND in all of those games except for maybe Miami...those 5.5 spreads can be brutal as it's real easy to get to 8.5 with a FG

 

[IrishLax]

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As of this morning… for the members who do not gamble or have any knowledge on how odds work, if you were to put $100 on Notre Dame to MAKE the playoff, you’d win $25… if you were to put $100 on Miami to MAKE the playoffs, you’d win $400.

Where are you finding these "no" lines on DraftKings? I can only bet "yes" options.

 

[NDPhilly]

Do we want 16? I want less.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

Do we want 16? I want less.

16 is the same as 12 there just isn't a bye.

 

[IrishinSyria]

BYU and Bama need to get destroyed. Only then will I feel confident.

Definitely rooting for blowouts across the board. Whoever wins tomorrow win big.

 

[IrishinSyria]

Do we want 16? I want less.

It’s stupid. This year instead of debating ND/Miami/BYU we’re debating like Utah, USC, Michigan, Texas, Georgia Tech, Vandy, etc….as you expand the field teams will be less differentiated, not more. And you’ll be including a ton of teams that have no business winning a national title.

 

[Bane]

easy... FG

Brother, have you watched our FG kicking unit?

 

[IrishTusker]

It’s stupid. This year instead of debating ND/Miami/BYU we’re debating like Utah, USC, Michigan, Texas, Georgia Tech, Vandy, etc….as you expand the field teams will be less differentiated, not more. And you’ll be including a ton of teams that have no business winning a national title.

Unlike now? It's that or get rid of auto-bids, which apparently isn't an option.