2025 College Football Playoffs

[wallym]

False

hahaha. ab2cmiller gets it . I say it with conviction, because I read this board for the last 1.5 days and listened to the corrupt committee. Just like politicians, they think we're all stupid and can't see what they are doing. They think they are 1 step ahead of everyone, and think the everyday CFB watcher is dumber than them. It's an arrogance beyond repair....

 

[IrishSteelhead]

That’s dropping on both and FanDuel and DK though.

Miami went from +650 last night to +400 as of now. The money is coming in from the wrong direction.


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[NDWarrior]

I really hope the games go our way this w/e and we sneak in and then MMFF uses this disrespect as fuel to fire up the team and ND obliterates all and any teams in its way on the way to a Natty!

 

[Kingbish01]

It could...and if this happens it's ideal for us...takes Miami out of the equation. But remember, the committee says CCG's don't mean shit and "teams shouldn't be penalized for losing CCG's"...their words, not ours. So if BYU loses too...they stay in between us and Miami, or no? I feel like it's a double standard, because politicians are running the committee....not people who know football.

Teams won't be penalized to the point of missing the playoffs. That's why I believe even if UGA beats bama by 3 TDs Bama is still in. But seeding will change, that's why I said...the winner of OSU and Indiana will be 1....right?

 

[EvilleIrish]

I think our best bet at this point is to just expect the worst and maybe we will be pleasantly surprised on Sunday.

 

[wallym]

How do you know?
its 50/50 at worst

I don't know, and you're probably right. I'm just convicted in my feelings that 1) if bama loses they protected them by moving them 1 spot in front of us, 2) if BYU loses that moves Miami closer to ND, 3) if Miami is closer to us then H2H now all the sudden matters (when it didn't for 3-4 weeks), 4) last weeks results tell me that the Gods aren't in favor of stuff going our way

 

[T-Boone]

because the douche canoe on TV said it's easier to to H2H when they are side by side. They will be side by side when BYU loses.

You can see that that would involve double counting though right?
Miami may jump us, but surely it would be based on the fact they just have a fresh look at it every time they do it so some voters may be feeling slightly differently (I could even handle the commissioner saying "we think we got it wrong a couple weeks ago") or because something has happened such as Boise State losing (I'd live with that). But this double counting thing is illogical.

 

[IrelandIrish]

Please God let Georgia and Texas Tech win. If we make in I love all these teams talking shit. That gives this team the ammo to pound all these assholes.

Right on fella. this Is why we need that 10 spot. we win on the road to miami and no one can take that away

 

[pumpdog20]

when Boise State wins their conference and Navy go to 10-2 ND will move up a bit.

Navy won't be 10-2 before selection

 

[Rudy89]

We would not have fared well against the golden age Dabo teams.

At those times maybe not, but I’m sure we would still be towards the top in the ACC. 2019 I definitely think they used our independence against us which js why we had to settle for the Camping World Bowl. Now I think outside of Miami possibly being an Achilles heel we would be in the ACC championship most years and Morse than likely win it. Hell with the season we had in 2022 we would’ve more than likely won the conference that year despite the lows of that season. All this isn’t to say I think we should join but like a Marvel “what if” I think we would have a lot of hardware & would continue to win more if we were in the ACC.

 

[wallym]

Teams won't be penalized to the point of missing the playoffs. That's why I believe even if UGA beats bama by 3 TDs Bama is still in. But seeding will change, that's why I said...the winner of OSU and Indiana will be 1....right?

but last year, every team that lost their CCG dropped a spot.

 

[T-Boone]

Navy won't be 10-2 before selection

why do they play that weekend? A week late? ND needs to have words with em.

 

[WildMan1]

then why would they say out loud "teams that are idle can move up or down"?

Oregon. Ole Miss, A&M, Oklahoma, Notre Dame & Miami are all idle.

And they mentioned strength of schedule being something that could move an idle team based on Championship games.

So.. Oklahomas SOS could react to a Bama loss & Ole Miss with a Georgia win.

If Indiana beats Ohio State then Oregon SOS gets stronger.

If Boise State wins the MW our SOS gets stronger.

So.. it doesn’t have to be monumental changes but what they have to make clear is that EVERYONE can be moved around after the championship games for seeding.

It’s the safe response & makes sense..

You simply have tunnel vision on ND/Miami when the committee doesn’t.

We still might get left out with a Bama win or BYU win but personally I think the committee is of the opinion that Bama & ND are the best teams for the last 2 seeds & thats why they positioned them with the highest odds to make it.

They’re respecting the toughness of Bama playing Georgia & assuming if it’s a loss it will be a good game & they can drop Bama to 10 & bump ND to 9 once again alleviating any side by side comparison to the Hurricanes.

This is of course assuming BYU loses to Texas Tech which again the committee thinks is likely otherwise they’d have put them above ND.. but they didn’t.. they want BYU to prove their worth.

And they’re telling Miami they like ND better even with the H2H. Otherwise what stopped them from going Miami, BYU, ND?

What I expect will happen is Georgia will win the SEC, Texas Tech will win the BigXII - We’ll leap to 9, Bama will drop to 10 & remain in & Miami will take the 1st out at 11.

Thats what I believe the committee thinks will happen & that’s why Bama was moved to 9. That way if Bama loses & BYU loses they can’t just drop BYU & then flip Miami/ND while leaving Bama untouched with 3 losses.. that would be fucking insane. I guess they’ve been inconsistent so who knows but this logic makes sense to me.

This whole thesis is based on the idea that the committee strongly considers Bama & ND The best 2 remaining teams.. and they mentioned how close the debate between them was.

 

[stlnd01]

I don't know, and you're probably right. I'm just convicted in my feelings that 1) if bama loses they protected them by moving them 1 spot in front of us, 2) if BYU loses that moves Miami closer to ND, 3) if Miami is closer to us then H2H now all the sudden matters (when it didn't for 3-4 weeks), 4) last weeks results tell me that the Gods aren't in favor of stuff going our way

1) There are no Gods involved here, just corrupt and broken mortals who put their pants on one leg at a time like the rest of us.
2) If those mortals thought Miami deserved to be ranked ahead of us, they would be by now. We've been grouped together by the CFP for some time, and they have consistently put us on top. None of Saturday's games change that.
3) I agree they're protecting Bama but if Bama loses Saturday, the margin of defeat would matter. If Bama loses decisively to Georgia what exactly is the argument for their inclusion in the CFP over us or Miami?
4) Again and as has been the case from the start, the most important thing for us is the outcome of the Big 12 title game. If TTU wins, we are fine. If BYU wins, we better hope Georgia demolishes Bama.

 

[ColinKSU]

I don’t want to join the ACC & lose our independence but outside of the Miami game we have beaten the ACC down so much this year and seem to have a good record against the ACC every year (besides 2016) I feel like if we did join the ACC we would have cases upon cases of ACC championship trophies.

It’s important to call out that Miami *has literally never won the ACC Championship.*

You know how many times they’ve even played for it? Once. You know how many times Notre Dame has played for it? Once. In their only season in the ACC.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Oregon. Ole Miss, A&M, Oklahoma, Notre Dame & Miami are all idle.

And they mentioned strength of schedule being something that could move an idle team based on Championship games.

So.. Oklahomas SOS could react to a Bama loss & Ole Miss with a Georgia win.

If Indiana beats Ohio State then Oregon SOS gets stronger.

If Boise State wins the MW our SOS gets stronger.

So.. it doesn’t have to be monumental changes but what they have to make clear is that EVERYONE can be moved around after the championship games for seeding.

It’s the safe response & makes sense..

You simply have tunnel vision on ND/Miami when the committee doesn’t.

We still might get left out with a Bama win or BYU win but personally I think the committee is of the opinion that Bama & ND are the best teams for the last 2 seeds & thats why they positioned them with the highest odds to make it.

They’re respecting the toughness of Bama playing Georgia & assuming if it’s a loss it will be a good game & they can drop Bama to 10 & bump ND to 9 once again alleviating any side by side comparison to the Hurricanes.

This is of course assuming BYU loses to Texas Tech which again the committee thinks is likely otherwise they’d have put them above ND.. but they didn’t.. they want BYU to prove their worth.

And they’re telling Miami they like ND better even with the H2H. Otherwise what stopped them from going Miami, BYU, ND?

What I expect will happen is Georgia will win the SEC, Texas Tech will win the BigXII - We’ll leap to 9, Bama will drop to 10 & remain in & Miami will take the 1st out at 11.

Thats what I believe the committee thinks will happen & that’s why Bama was moved to 9. That way if Bama loses & BYU loses they can’t just drop BYU & then flip Miami/ND while leaving Bama untouched with 3 losses.. that would be fucking insane. I guess they’ve been inconsistent so who knows but this logic makes sense to me.

This whole thesis is based on the idea that the committee strongly considers Bama & ND The best 2 remaining teams.. and they mentioned how close the debate between them was.

This is True

 

[T-Boone]

And they’re telling Miami they like ND better even with the H2H. Otherwise what stopped them from going Miami, BYU, ND?

I agree with everything you said but I would add to this that the committee could just have another vote on ND v Miami and it goes Miami's way this time for no reason except a few change their mind from last time based on their hormones at the time or some such.
I could live with that rather than a sudden double counting exercise.

 

[wallym]

You can see that that would involve double counting though right?
Miami may jump us, but surely it would be based on the fact they just have a fresh look at it every time they do it so some voters may be feeling slightly differently (I could even handle the commissioner saying "we think we got it wrong a couple weeks ago") or because something has happened such as Boise State losing (I'd live with that). But this double counting thing is illogical.

I don't understand the double counting thing at all. Miami can only jump us, if they are next to us. BYU losing puts them next to us. We should have jumped Bama to not be in this situation, and in all honestly should have jumped Okla too...but why would the committee allow us to jump 2 SEC teams when it makes sense? Corruption....

 

[ab2cmiller]

What in the world would’ve the committee done if Navy was the highest ranked group of five on decision day but still had to play Army????

 

[jpachuta33]

 

[NumbersGuy0520]

God these guys are insufferable at this point.

Maybe their incessant rambling starts to turn the committee off.

 

[GoldenAura]

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Miami fans would be so mad at this if they could read.

 

[Dale]

What in the world would’ve the committee done if Navy was the highest ranked group of five on decision day but still had to play Army????

Not ever rank them highest. Here is how little people are care about the G5. The ONLY reason Tulane is in over Navy is because of the committee ranking. The only reason Tulane has HOME game over North Texas is the committee ranking. This even though they took the worst loss of the 3 tied. Tulane didn’t play North Texas, Navy or USF, the other Top 3 of the conference.

But because Tulane has the future SEC coach and is a better brand then North Texas, they get the path cleared for them.

 

[stlnd01]

It’s important to call out that Miami *has literally never won the ACC Championship.*

You know how many times they’ve even played for it? Once. You know how many times Notre Dame has played for it? Once. In their only season in the ACC.

Since 2017, we are 46-5 against that stupid conference.

 

[wallym]

Oregon. Ole Miss, A&M, Oklahoma, Notre Dame & Miami are all idle.

And they mentioned strength of schedule being something that could move an idle team based on Championship games.

So.. Oklahomas SOS could react to a Bama loss & Ole Miss with a Georgia win.

If Indiana beats Ohio State then Oregon SOS gets stronger.

If Boise State wins the MW our SOS gets stronger.

So.. it doesn’t have to be monumental changes but what they have to make clear is that EVERYONE can be moved around after the championship games for seeding.

It’s the safe response & makes sense..

You simply have tunnel vision on ND/Miami when the committee doesn’t.

We still might get left out with a Bama win or BYU win but personally I think the committee is of the opinion that Bama & ND are the best teams for the last 2 seeds & thats why they positioned them with the highest odds to make it.

They’re respecting the toughness of Bama playing Georgia & assuming if it’s a loss it will be a good game & they can drop Bama to 10 & bump ND to 9 once again alleviating any side by side comparison to the Hurricanes.

This is of course assuming BYU loses to Texas Tech which again the committee thinks is likely otherwise they’d have put them above ND.. but they didn’t.. they want BYU to prove their worth.

And they’re telling Miami they like ND better even with the H2H. Otherwise what stopped them from going Miami, BYU, ND?

What I expect will happen is Georgia will win the SEC, Texas Tech will win the BigXII - We’ll leap to 9, Bama will drop to 10 & remain in & Miami will take the 1st out at 11.

Thats what I believe the committee thinks will happen & that’s why Bama was moved to 9. That way if Bama loses & BYU loses they can’t just drop BYU & then flip Miami/ND while leaving Bama untouched with 3 losses.. that would be fucking insane. I guess they’ve been inconsistent so who knows but this logic makes sense to me.

This whole thesis is based on the idea that the committee strongly considers Bama & ND The best 2 remaining teams.. and they mentioned how close the debate between them was.

Well stated...all this damn logic makes my head spin . You've actually put though to this, when my anger is looking at this from a political standpoint. Again, well stated and I hope you're right. I would also like to be in the 10 spot, but with zero control we just need to get in.

 

[Bane]

Oregon. Ole Miss, A&M, Oklahoma, Notre Dame & Miami are all idle.

And they mentioned strength of schedule being something that could move an idle team based on Championship games.

So.. Oklahomas SOS could react to a Bama loss & Ole Miss with a Georgia win.

If Indiana beats Ohio State then Oregon SOS gets stronger.

If Boise State wins the MW our SOS gets stronger.

So.. it doesn’t have to be monumental changes but what they have to make clear is that EVERYONE can be moved around after the championship games for seeding.

It’s the safe response & makes sense..

You simply have tunnel vision on ND/Miami when the committee doesn’t.

Agreed with it all, but this is the key point. We forget that there are other teams and other debates going on because we don't really care about them as much. I don't trust Hunter Yurachek at all or anything and his answers don't usually fill me with trust and confidence, but he is a high level AD (a politician) so refusing to be buttonholed in on a question like "is team A locked in ahead of team B now" is just sort of standard political question avoidance.

If the committee really wanted to scheme to put us next to Miami so they can "finally do the right thing," they could have easily done it this week with BYU and dropped them below Miami. Miami looked better in their game than BYU did in theirs. The idea they're waiting to do it next week so they can maximize our pain and suffering is a sort of paranoid trauma response.

Miami has been in our tier for 2 weeks now and thus the H2H has been taken into consideration and they stated last week that there's no magic number that Miami has to get to to activate the Head to Head Override Protocol.

 

[pumpdog20]

why do they play that weekend? A week late? ND needs to have words with em.

Army Navy game is next week.

 

[wallym]

1) There are no Gods involved here, just corrupt and broken mortals who put their pants on one leg at a time like the rest of us.
2) If those mortals thought Miami deserved to be ranked ahead of us, they would be by now. We've been grouped together by the CFP for some time, and they have consistently put us on top. None of Saturday's games change that.
3) I agree they're protecting Bama but if Bama loses Saturday, the margin of defeat would matter. If Bama loses decisively to Georgia what exactly is the argument for their inclusion in the CFP over us or Miami?
4) Again and as has been the case from the start, the most important thing for us is the outcome of the Big 12 title game. If TTU wins, we are fine. If BYU wins, we better hope Georgia demolishes Bama.

agree with all by #2. This is how the committee has softened this. We "have not" been in the same grouping with them all year, and they have stated that very clearly, so that's why the H2H didn't matter. But if BYU loses, they will be right next to us and they have said "side by side it's easier to look at H2H". So it's lining up they will be in the same grouping finally after BYU loses....this is why BYU is between us, so they can use BYU losing as an excuse to jump us H2H.

 

[IrishinSyria]

It’s hard to not keep going back to this - ND is one of a handful of teams capable of winning a championship and a legitimate contender. If ND somehow doesn't make it in the field, then the system is broken.

Honestly this is true of Miami too. The system is broken, and us (probably) being on the right side of it doesn’t change that.

At least, the system is broken if you understand the goal of the system to produce the 12 most deserving teams for the playoffs. Arguably that’s an impossible goal given that there will almost inevitably be teams with similar records and virtually no overlap that fall into the bubble.

If the purpose of the system is to (a) always include every team that would have been in national title consideration under previous formats (b) provide a reasonably fair process for selecting a handful of teams that would never have had a shot under prior formats and (c) generate a ton of attention for the sport, I kind of think the system is working well.

 

[irish2104]

The commissioner going on Golics show.. are two star running backs going on ESPN.. I mean its kinda wild is ESPN wastes all the airtime and then leaves us out... What gets better ratings us or Miami getting in?? We do just not only on brand but story has well.. everyone will watch and hope we get smashed