2025 College Football Playoffs

[Plankton]

I've come the genuine conclusion he's just a moron. I really don't think he understands anything he posts.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

This isn’t just an excuse to throw more poop on BK, it’s the reality we live in:


ND under BK was full steam ahead, raw, unfiltered ND hatred. A program many people despise, paired with a coach EVERYONE despises.


ND under MF has turned down the temp a bit. MF is much more well liked and generally easier to root for.

Despite what you see now, the anti-ND rhetoric has cooled off considerably the last 5 years.

They are now led by a guy who isn’t an asshole, and has gone toe to toe with big teams instead of laying down like a plastic blowup doll and taking it for 60 straight minutes.

This is absolutely something that will be taken into consideration. MF has created, and will continue to create, a culture that trusts ND will be a tough out for anyone, and can win big games.


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[Bane]

I guess even a dumb bear finds some honey every once in a while.

 

[ND88]

Texas is up there for most annoying program. They usually get some kind of pass for what, the burnt orange bull thing. But nah, the rodeo is over. Y'all cooked.

 

[bcole2]

They have to be right? The backend of last week’s ranking basically all lost. There’s 5 spots for Navy to fill 1. I would think it should and will happen.

Here’s who lost this weekend:
#19 Tennessee
#20 Arizona St
#21 SMU
#22 Pitt
#23 Georgia Tech

I certainly would think so. North Texas will be one of those slots I bet (beat Navy and is in AAC championship). Iowa fills another slot I bet after their big win. But then it should be Navy.

 

[ND88]

I go pretty hard on this guy because I find him to be a total slob, but this CFP debate has revealed how many CFB analysts are essentially just regurgitating stats (him, Wasserman, etc.) or saying a whole lot of nothing (Pate).

When has Pate ever said anything besides good self-promo marketing?

 

[NDMatt91]

Speaking of Pate, a few minutes ago he said that if Duke wins the ACC Title Game, the committee could throw the ACC a bone and put Miami in as the lone team from that Conference since there would be 2 G5 teams in.

 

[ND88]

If they drop Ole Miss and ND jumps Oklahoma...Miami 10 seed playing at ND 7 seed becomes a real possibility...

The committee would have some balls to do this. Man, the perfect game alignment. I want these GTA knockoffs badly.

 

[stlnd01]

Speaking of Pate, a few minutes ago he said that if Duke wins the ACC Title Game, the committee could throw the ACC a bone and put Miami in as the lone team from that Conference since there would be 2 G5 teams in.

It's not the committee's fault that the ACC has some stupid tiebreaker that enables an unranked team with five losses to make their championship over the #11 team that is 10-2.

 

[NDMatt91]

It's not the committee's fault that the ACC has some stupid tiebreaker that enables an unranked team with five losses to make their championship over the #11 team that is 10-2.

Yep. If they really want to do something, then change that dumb tiebreaker rule and put Miami in the Conference Championship Game instead of Duke. Miami would drill Virginia and they'd get in, and the people who have been crying over Miami 24/7 (Chris Fallica, Ari Wasserman, Clay Travis) can finally be quiet.

 

[The Backer]

What’s really wild is how little effort the majority of media is putting into understanding how the committee makes choices. They’re all convinced it’s just vibes and random deal brokering, but there’s a pretty rigid process to follow.

 

[NDPhilly]

In my opinion, our odds are likely closer to 90%. Bama isn’t going to jump us this week, and I don’t see them punishing BYU for winning by 3 TDs (the AP didn’t).

So you’d need BYU to win (~20% probability) and a Bama win (~50% probability), to knock us out (combined 10% probability).

The outlier here (which I really have a hard time believing they’d do) is if Bama jumps us with a win and BYU loses badly, is have Miami jump BYU, and then jump us bc of the head to head win. Feels like a mess they wouldn’t want to touch and would leave BYU as is.

 

[FWIrish4]

In my opinion, our odds are likely closer to 90%. Bama isn’t going to jump us this week, and I don’t see them punishing BYU for winning by 3 TDs (the AP didn’t).

So you’d need BYU to win (~20% probability) and a Bama win (~50% probability), to knock us out (combined 10% probability).

The outlier here (which I really have a hard time believing they’d do) is if Bama jumps us with a win and BYU loses badly, is have Miami jump BYU, and then jump us bc of the head to head win. Feels like a mess they wouldn’t want to touch and would leave BYU as is.

For this situation, didn’t someone (and/or a reporter) state that movement for teams that are NOT playing in conference championships won’t occur.

Yes, Miami could move up because of a BYU loss, but neither them nor ND played a game so they could not be flipped. Their resumes would not change so the committee’s prior decision would not change.

I swear I read this somewhere so someone let me know if I made this up in my head.

 

[ab2cmiller]

I guess the most likely person to call plays for Ole Miss is QB coach Joe Judge. Former Giants head coach.

Most speculation leading up to the announcement pegged Jones as the likely Interim Head Coach.

 

[Irishdawg]

Does Ole Miss have any offensive staff left? Are they going to have grad assistants calling plays or just let Trinidad Chambliss call his own plays? Only half joking 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[Irishdawg]

I guess the most likely person to call plays for Ole Miss is QB coach Joe Judge. Former Giants head coach.

Most speculation leading up to the announcement pegged Jones as the likely Interim Head Coach.

Jinx, lol

 

[NDRock]

Hire Eli for the playoff run. Make him wear the Chad Powers makeup.

 

[luckofirish8]

Weis Jr. and the WR coach were the two offensive guys that went with him right?

 

[Bane]

Does Ole Miss have any offensive staff left? Are they going to have grad assistants calling plays or just let Trinidad Chambliss call his own plays? Only half joking 🤷🏻‍♂️

Their offense was cooking with the son of a former ND HC, maybe they could get Kenzel Kelly.

 

[BeatSC]

A face for radio but sadly they didn’t leave him behind the camera. Someone needs to tell him the camera adds 100 pounds.

 

[bcole2]

For this situation, didn’t someone (and/or a reporter) state that movement for teams that are NOT playing in conference championships won’t occur.

Yes, Miami could move up because of a BYU loss, but neither them nor ND played a game so they could not be flipped. Their resumes would not change so the committee’s prior decision would not change.

I swear I read this somewhere so someone let me know if I made this up in my head.

I remember that being a very specific thing that was stated last year, but I don't know if it will also apply this year. I agree with you Philly, but I could also see them putting Miami ahead of BYU this week because BYU is a win and in so their position doesn't really matter this week. But that still doesn't put them right next to us unless Bama jumps us, which just seems very unlikely.

 

[Bane]

I remember that being a very specific thing that was stated last year, but I don't know if it will also apply this year. I agree with you Philly, but I could also see them putting Miami ahead of BYU this week because BYU is a win and in so their position doesn't really matter this week. But that still doesn't put them right next to us unless Bama jumps us, which just seems very unlikely.

There's still the chance we jump OU as well. I wouldn't bet on it, but it doesn't strike me as out of the realm of possibility. We've won 10 games in a row with an average margin of victory of ~30 points and are power rated in the top 4, we're ahead of OU by virtually every metric and OU has struggled in back to back weeks whereas we have won our last two games 119-27. That would ensure we're in and still leaves a lot of room for OU to get in as well.

 

[bcole2]

There's still the chance we jump OU as well. I wouldn't bet on it, but it doesn't strike me as out of the realm of possibility. We've won 10 games in a row with an average margin of victory of ~30 points and are power rated in the top 4, we're ahead of OU by virtually every metric and OU has struggled in back to back weeks whereas we have won our last two games 119-27. That would ensure we're in and still leaves a lot of room for OU to get in as well.

Agreed, all about resume vs. eye test there. I know this isn't how it should be, but I think it does happen to a degree, (i.e. Bama, UGA, OSU previously), but we went to the national championship last year and didn't completely embarrass ourselves. We should get an opportunity to do it again, because most everyone would agree that we can.

 

[NumbersGuy0520]

For this situation, didn’t someone (and/or a reporter) state that movement for teams that are NOT playing in conference championships won’t occur.

Yes, Miami could move up because of a BYU loss, but neither them nor ND played a game so they could not be flipped. Their resumes would not change so the committee’s prior decision would not change.

I swear I read this somewhere so someone let me know if I made this up in my head.

Yeah, I think I said it in another thread. I’m pretty sure that’s how they’ve done it every year. Here’s an article from last year.

MSN

So, how is the College Football Playoff Committee viewing the losing teams in those conference championship games? ESPN's College GameDay host Rece Davis asked CFP Committee chair Warde Manuel if those losing teams will be evaluated similar to the rest of the "at-large pool" that includes teams not playing in a conference title game.

"Probably fair to say that, yeah," Manuel said. "We don't look at it as an at-large pool, but we will evaluate the teams and how they play. Again, Rece, this is something that has been done every year in the final week we've evaluated teams. Teams can move up and down, but what you won't see is teams who are not playing move above or below other teams who are not playing."
https://x.com/CollegeGameDay/status/1865417631995425006
Manuel then gave the example of No. 4 Notre Dame and No. 6 Ohio State, who are not competing in a conference championship game this weekend. The Buckeyes could move up or down in the final rankings revealed on Sunday, but they will not be able to leapfrog the Fighting Irish.

"Ohio State will not move above Notre Dame, and Notre Dame won't move below Ohio State," Manuel said. "But they can fluctuate and move in terms of where they are set in the rankings in the top 25. And that's based on the championship games."

 

[Notre Dame Joe]

That BYU thing was the most undeserved "championship" in Football history. There might have been 20 better teams.

The voters chose who had the best season, not who had the highest power rating at the end of the year. If it's the latter then you barely have to play the games, a UGA could lose 3 straight games and still be favored to win the 4th

 

[Bane]

The voters chose who had the best season, not who had the highest power rating at the end of the year. If it's the latter then you barely have to play the games, a UGA could lose 3 straight games and still be favored to win the 4th

But how do you quantify "best season?" Just simply winning all of your games? That's just not how CFB works because the variance in SOS and the the sheer number of teams as well as sizable talent discrepancy between teams even within in the top 10-15.

I have not looked into the 1984 season so I cannot speak to to BYU's worthiness as champion, but I will say this does not spark confidence:

"A number of pollsters and coaches were reluctant to name the Cougars as national champion, partly because they believed BYU's schedule was too weak. Only two of BYU's opponents won at least seven games. They had played only one ranked opponent all season, preseason #3 Pittsburgh, a team that would finish 3–7–1 and unranked. No other team in the WAC was even close to being their equal; the Cougars were the only team in the league with fewer than four overall losses."

 

[Notre Dame Joe]

What’s really wild is how little effort the majority of media is putting into understanding how the committee makes choices. They’re all convinced it’s just vibes and random deal brokering, but there’s a pretty rigid process to follow.

The PC usually follows the computer averages. They only once deviated from the proxy of the BCS and that was because FSU lost their quarterbackand that was because FSU lost their quarterback

 

[burmafrd1944]

I know Bevacqua and MF have said they favor the football program’s independence but let’s just say worst case scenario if nothing breaks our way and we actually get left out of the CFP this year is that enough to have serious discussions about joining a conference? To be clear, I’m not even saying a like the idea but I’m just curious what some of you think.
Missing the CFP this year would be devastating (at least very disappointing) IMHO.

no.

if we had just won one of the first two games we would have a bye sealed up

the only reason we have been sweating is because of that

A conference is a safety net for mediocre teams

 

[T-Boone]

I think the committee should punish the SEC for allowing a situation where one team in that conference steals the HC of the team in the conference that will be in the play offs essentially devaluing the play offs. They should factor that into whether just 4 get in or whether a 5th SEC team gets in.

 

[Notre Dame Joe]

But how do you quantify "best season?" Just simply winning all of your games? That's just not how CFB works because the variance in SOS and the the sheer number of teams as well as sizable talent discrepancy between teams even within in the top 10-15.

I have not looked into the 1984 season so I cannot speak to to BYU's worthiness as champion, but I will say this does not spark confidence:

"A number of pollsters and coaches were reluctant to name the Cougars as national champion, partly because they believed BYU's schedule was too weak. Only two of BYU's opponents won at least seven games. They had played only one ranked opponent all season, preseason #3 Pittsburgh, a team that would finish 3–7–1 and unranked. No other team in the WAC was even close to being their equal; the Cougars were the only team in the league with fewer than four overall losses."

Did the team play the best given the situation? I don't know that season either but if BYU was over-achieving their talent level while Oklahoma was not then I see why the former were declared the champions.