'23 MO CB Christian Gray (Notre Dame Signee)

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PutuporShutup said:
I don’t remember talks of Hobbs like that, there were talks of Cree Thomas being the next great one.

I don’t think Hobbs just got completely benched due to poor play. I would bet something happened after the a&M game non play related that got him in freeman’s dog house. Just a hunch.
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Do you just automatically talk out of your ass like you're all knowing because you're giving off serious autistic fuck vibes
 
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BeatSC said:
He might be a lawyer because he is playing this like these represent billable hours!
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Listen.. Im 100% behind you here.

Put up is a goofball...

But maybe you need to look inward?

You've had a goofy ass political pfp for forever.

(recognize i don't dig Biden or democrats either)

But you look like a goof.

Maybe ill start putting WILDLY political pfps in my shit while we talk about football?

Antifa and Karl Marx and whatnot

At least I'd believe in something.
 
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If being healthy and rested makes him better we probably, no, definitely beat OSU in the big game last season with a healthy Morrison helping out.
 
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PutuporShutup said:
You think not being able to play at all, out for the game, on november 8th, then on november 10th not even being on the injury report is "healing physical injuries"? "C'mon Man"

And I'm Charles Woodson
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When you think everyone else is an asshole.................
 
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PutuporShutup said:
15 months ago many, maybe even you were discussing him as a potential first rounder. now it’s “he may make an nfl roster one day IF he’s healthy”. Hmmmm

He’s so far from an extremely good college player. He’s an average P4 corner at best when he’s at his best.

I had no problem with gray with effort until usc 25, he flat out gave up effort and focus wise that night. Banged up or not, no excuse. At least in 2024 he was battling but just getting beat. This year, His injuries were so bad he miraculously went from not being able to play on Nov 8th, to not even being on an injury report nov 10th!!! It’s so obvious they wanted to mentally re set him. Because, even though he’s not great, he’s better than Zackery and Hobbs and ND needs him to be serviceable.
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Most mocks have him going anywhere between 5th/6th, I think scouts have seen him look like he belongs as high as a late 3rd/4th Rd pick and also have seen him play like an UDFA. Consistency and cleaning up the concentration lapses/choppy feet mechanics would go along way in assuring him of being at least a 4th/5th Rd guy at the next level.
 
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mrmcgrail said:
There is so much nuance in coverage like he plays the field of course he is going to have more help he has more area to cover. Yesterday they mixed in a good amount of zone. Is that to help Gray or to confuse the pitt QB which it did. They baited that QB into so many throws and Gray had a really really good game. He has had problems against the elite of the elite on OSU USC and a&m and a&m was a lot of bad safety and nickel play more so than him
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Agreed, and absolutely the Safety play against A&M was atrocious for large parts of the game.
 
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he was definitely injured. It was very clear he had some issue with in his hip. Most likely just a bruise or pointer. Now I will say he does have a stamina issue and his snap counts were getting way to high.
 
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Rocketman84 said:
Most mocks have him going anywhere between 5th/6th, I think scouts have seen him look like he belongs as high as a late 3rd/4th Rd pick and also have seen him play like an UDFA. Consistency and cleaning up the concentration lapses/choppy feet mechanics would go along way in assuring him of being at least a 4th/5th Rd guy at the next level.
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He's obviously NOT going pro after this year. He's going to need to improve significantly on his footwork and hips/change of direction, because they are not good on film. I don't think he can fix his lack of make up speed so whenever he tests at pro day his 40 and shuttle will be big for his chance of being drafted. He does show good instincts and has really good length.

He's going to need to make some big gains this off season or Adams could start getting major reps if he's what we all think he can be. I expect Adams to jump Zackery pretty quickly. Looks like they're keeping Cre at boundary. He looks the part.
 
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PutuporShutup said:
He's obviously NOT going pro after this year. He's going to need to improve significantly on his footwork and hips/change of direction, because they are not good on film. I don't think he can fix his lack of make up speed so whenever he tests at pro day his 40 and shuttle will be big for his chance of being drafted. He does show good instincts and has really good length.

He's going to need to make some big gains this off season or Adams could start getting major reps if he's what we all think he can be. I expect Adams to jump Zackery pretty quickly. Looks like they're keeping Cre at boundary. He looks the part.
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And he plays with a lack of effort
 
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PutuporShutup said:
He's obviously NOT going pro after this year. He's going to need to improve significantly on his footwork and hips/change of direction, because they are not good on film. I don't think he can fix his lack of make up speed so whenever he tests at pro day his 40 and shuttle will be big for his chance of being drafted. He does show good instincts and has really good length.

He's going to need to make some big gains this off season or Adams could start getting major reps if he's what we all think he can be. I expect Adams to jump Zackery pretty quickly. Looks like they're keeping Cre at boundary. He looks the part.
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Those mocks I've seen were for '27, I don't think he would even think about coming out after this year especially after dealing with the nagging ailments. I'm interested to see what he runs because the 40s he has on paper are pretty solid from HS and from camps (4.45-4.55 range). He just has a lot of cleanup to do with his footwork, I think he's been limited with change of direction moreso due to an injury.
 
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Haven’t seen anything from the beat writers regarding Gray’s status for next year. Anyone know anything?
 
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stpeteirish said:
Haven’t seen anything from the beat writers regarding Gray’s status for next year. Anyone know anything?
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I’ll try to be fair. His draft stock plummeted end of last year and this year, that’s a fact. Imo, his camp is probably trying to figure out best path forward for nil in 26 and path to nfl. In reality, the 2nd corner spot is his to lose going into 26. He has absolutely no competition this past year. Zackery will not be competition next year but Cree could be, pouncey and Adam’s could be. I’m sure nd wants him back, but he probably realizes he could lose snaps if his play doesn’t significantly improve.
 
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PutuporShutup said:
I’ll try to be fair. His draft stock plummeted end of last year and this year, that’s a fact. Imo, his camp is probably trying to figure out best path forward for nil in 26 and path to nfl. In reality, the 2nd corner spot is his to lose going into 26. He has absolutely no competition this past year. Zackery will not be competition next year but Cree could be, pouncey and Adam’s could be. I’m sure nd wants him back, but he probably realizes he could lose snaps if his play doesn’t significantly improve.
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The best path forward is to come back and be one of our starting corners next year. Try to stay healthy and improve his technique. Why would he leave? He's not an early-round draft pick. And it's hard to imagine a better situation in college.
 
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stpeteirish said:
Haven’t seen anything from the beat writers regarding Gray’s status for next year. Anyone know anything?
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He’s a starting CB for the fighting Irish that isn’t quite ready for the NFL. With a little NIL money I would think it’s a safe bet he’ll be in blue and gold next year.
 
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stlnd01 said:
The best path forward is to come back and be one of our starting corners next year. Try to stay healthy and improve his technique. Why would he leave? He's not an early-round draft pick. And it's hard to imagine a better situation in college.
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TBH he's probably a 7th round pick and that's assuming he has a good combine.
 
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