Joe Rudolph - Offensive Line Coach

[irishjim]

The blocking schemes are off. Can’t leave EMOL unblocked on a slow handoff

 

[MacIrish75]

The blocking schemes are off. Can’t leave EMOL unblocked on a slow handoff

They’ve largely been fine tonight.

 

[irishjim]

They’ve largely been fine tonight.

Largely, but too many times the defense end/or an outside backer just flys off the line and hits the running back almost immediately after getting the handoff.

 

[MacIrish75]

Largely, but too many times the defense end/or an outside backer just flys off the line and hits the running back almost immediately after getting the handoff.

Idk if that’s so much scheme as good ID by the defense. That’s the chess match.

 

[stlnd01]

OL was much, much better tonight.

 

[HouseofPain]

OL was much, much better tonight.

No, they just played a worse defense tonight.

 

[stlnd01]

No, they just played a worse defense tonight.

OK. But Miami's probably the best DL they'll play all year. Point is, Carr had time, and the running game mostly moved. I was worried about pass protection coming into this game but that part held up fine.

 

[NumbersGuy0520]

Yeah, I’ll eat crow here. Oline concerned me at the start, but they really came together and looked better as the night went on.

 

[Bane]

OL and the entire offense was good tonight. 40 points should lead to a blowout win.

 

[irishff1014]

OL and the entire offense was good tonight. 40 points should lead to a blowout win.

Great is a bit much. They were good. The oline/ thought end still missed too many blocks.

 

[Bane]

Well I did say "good" lol.

 

[greyhammer90]

OL and the entire offense was good tonight. 40 points should lead to a blowout win.

33* we don't give them the punt block.

Agree with you though. Thought they were good when it mattered.

 

[Dale]

Pressure rate of 24% is pretty darn good last night for the OL. On 18 blitzes.


*PFF Sunday grades subject to change.

 

[IrishTusker]

Red zone dead zone is a big problem. Partly (maybe mostly) play-calling, but the OL is also part of the problem. We should be able to pick up 1-2 yards on the ground automatically.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Some of this "disappointment" is because IE is lousy at assessing consistent OLinemen. Neither Knapp, nor Lambert, nor Wagner are yet consistent this year. It's why we needed Jagusah to give us THREE such consistent maulers rather than just two. Also, and this is the error the staff made, by inserting Jagusah as a GUARD with the idea that Knapp and Wagner would develop more at Tackle than they have, that decision ran off our superior Right Guard options (Coogan could have been offered the RG, as could have Spindler) and left us with a not yet ready Lambert et al. Also no real ready depth.

 

[SWirishfan]

Some of this "disappointment" is because IE is lousy at assessing consistent OLinemen. Neither Knapp, nor Lambert, nor Wagner are yet consistent this year. It's why we needed Jagusah to give us THREE such consistent maulers rather than just two. Also, and this is the error the staff made, by inserting Jagusah as a GUARD with the idea that Knapp and Wagner would develop more at Tackle than they have, that decision ran off our superior Right Guard options (Coogan could have been offered the RG, as could have Spindler) and left us with a not yet ready Lambert et al. Also no real ready depth.

Sad Like, don't like agreeing but agree.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Pass protection this season to this point has been great. Unless someone can point to stats that show otherwise.

 

[IrishLax]

 

[Old Man Mike]

I still think that IE is "off" on our reasonableness in dreaming about what this line should be playing like.

We had all these half-injured/half-starting returners which should have foretold a winner unit. Then:
A. almost all the high quality reserves left the team, and the top predicted quality player got hurt.
B. We're left with a group from which almost every player has to be a hit, and hit high and stay healthy.
C. None of that happens. The veterans mostly DO NOT take the first year to second year step up.
Craig and Schrauth do; Wagner seems maybe to rise, but marginally, and then gets nagging injury.
Knapp does not have any sophisticated step up at all apparently, and may even regress. Lambert
is not ready to roll despite the walk-off-the-bus eye test. Abshur looks possible, but Rudolph disagrees.
D. Craig gets hurt, taking out our blocking coordinator. A near rookie has to replace him.
E. In the overview: this is a massive sucking piece of crap we're being dealt, with no quick fix or options.

Slightly more optimistic bottomline: All of our current OLine roster guys have physicality and at least raw talent.
We will be sort-of-adequate. We will NOT be "Great" here, like we should have been. We have to live with this.

 

[T-Boone]

I still think that IE is "off" on our reasonableness in dreaming about what this line should be playing like.

We had all these half-injured/half-starting returners which should have foretold a winner unit. Then:
A. almost all the high quality reserves left the team, and the top predicted quality player got hurt.
B. We're left with a group from which almost every player has to be a hit, and hit high and stay healthy.
C. None of that happens. The veterans mostly DO NOT take the first year to second year step up.
Craig and Schrauth do; Wagner seems maybe to rise, but marginally, and then gets nagging injury.
Knapp does not have any sophisticated step up at all apparently, and may even regress. Lambert
is not ready to roll despite the walk-off-the-bus eye test. Abshur looks possible, but Rudolph disagrees.
D. Craig gets hurt, taking out our blocking coordinator. A near rookie has to replace him.
E. In the overview: this is a massive sucking piece of crap we're being dealt, with no quick fix or options.

Slightly more optimistic bottomline: All of our current OLine roster guys have physicality and at least raw talent.
We will be sort-of-adequate. We will NOT be "Great" here, like we should have been. We have to live with this.

You are just talking about running the ball right? they have been very very good in pass pro.
Edit: I just saw you were probably responding to Tengwell so yes.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

I still think that IE is "off" on our reasonableness in dreaming about what this line should be playing like.

We had all these half-injured/half-starting returners which should have foretold a winner unit. Then:
A. almost all the high quality reserves left the team, and the top predicted quality player got hurt.
B. We're left with a group from which almost every player has to be a hit, and hit high and stay healthy.
C. None of that happens. The veterans mostly DO NOT take the first year to second year step up.
Craig and Schrauth do; Wagner seems maybe to rise, but marginally, and then gets nagging injury.
Knapp does not have any sophisticated step up at all apparently, and may even regress. Lambert
is not ready to roll despite the walk-off-the-bus eye test. Abshur looks possible, but Rudolph disagrees.
D. Craig gets hurt, taking out our blocking coordinator. A near rookie has to replace him.
E. In the overview: this is a massive sucking piece of crap we're being dealt, with no quick fix or options.

Slightly more optimistic bottomline: All of our current OLine roster guys have physicality and at least raw talent.
We will be sort-of-adequate. We will NOT be "Great" here, like we should have been. We have to live with this.

If you stopped hyping them up every offseason we wouldn’t have unrealistic expectations.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

Rudolph isn't doing his job well enough. We have a room loaded with talent. They are blocking for 2 x top 5 RBs (Kiper has Love #1 and Price #3 on RB big board) and a top 10 (and improving) QB. And they still manage to just be mediocre. This is on the coach.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Can't stop giving props to the big guys.

... as to our troubles. We have LESS than two somewhat healthy groups of five walking bodies. (Teams typically have 15 options.)
That level of diminishment in numbers is NOT on the coach. He's not kicking these guys in the ACLs (or wherevers).

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

Can't stop giving props to the big guys.

... as to our troubles. We have LESS than two somewhat healthy groups of five walking bodies. (Teams typically have 15 options.)
That level of diminishment in numbers is NOT on the coach. He's not kicking these guys in the ACLs (or wherevers).

And 3 transfers starting and thriving at power 4 teams.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

They're 21st in America in Total Offense with 30 offensive touchdowns in six games while averaging 7.18 yards per play.

The internet is truly a place where people just come to bitch about things. It's a giant junkyard of grievance. It explains so, so much about where we're at from a societal standpoint.

 

[Irish#1]

Injuries certainly haven't helped, but I feel like we should be better than what we are at the moment

 

[SportsingHard]

They're 21st in America in Total Offense with 30 offensive touchdowns in six games while averaging 7.18 yards per play.

The internet is truly a place where people just come to bitch about things. It's a giant junkyard of grievance. It explains so, so much about where we're at from a societal standpoint.

 

[GowerND11]

And 3 transfers starting and thriving at power 4 teams.

Flip side: We return everyone next year if we want them here. Would love to see better run blocking, but these guys are good, and will get better. This line is going to dominate next year.

I know we all hate looking forward when the here and now is happening, but yeah. This unit is good now, and is going to be elite next year.

 

[dublinirish]

 

[Irish#1]

Let's hope that brings a tad more motivation to bury the Trojan defense Saturday night.