2025 WATCH PARTY: WEEK FOUR

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Wouldn’t be surprised if UVA were made to put up a fence at the end of that hill
That just makes me think of the Hillsborough disaster - a hill leading straight to a fence feels like a recipe for serious crowd crush. Not sure what the solution is - maybe just more security guards to at least slow them down a bit
 

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Evidently one fan had to be removed via a stretcher.

While no players or coaches were apparently injured, witnesses saw at least one fan being taken off the field on a stretcher and at least a dozen others being tended to by stadium personnel.
 

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Not something I said. Not something I've heard anybody say.
You called it dangerous in the post that I quoted, or at least said it could be made "less dangerous." Maybe you think it has always been dangerous (which is fair, it can be, but also if you don't want to rush the field no one's forcing you to). I'm just curious why only in the last five years there are all these fines and security procedures being discussed, when it has been a part of the sport forever.

FWIW I agree Virginia probably should have something in place to at least slow that down. Players and on-field staff should have at least a little time to get out of the way.
 

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You called it dangerous in the post that I quoted, or at least said it could be made "less dangerous." Maybe you think it has always been dangerous (which is fair, it can be, but also if you don't want to rush the field no one's forcing you to). I'm just curious why only in the last five years there are all these fines and security procedures being discussed, when it has been a part of the sport forever.

FWIW I agree Virginia probably should have something in place to at least slow that down. Players and on-field staff should have at least a little time to get out of the way.
Things I didn't say:
* Storming the field used to be safe for everybody involved.
* Storming the field suddenly became more dangerous across college football a few years ago.

What I did say:
* The storming of the field at Virginia on Friday night looked dangerous to me.

There were two main reasons for this:
* The extreme speed at which thousands of people covered the field.
* The precarious position of two players who were down on the ground.

These elements struck many people as awful and quite possibly the worst of all time, and despite the huge upset, people found these things more noteworthy than the game itself or the dramatic ending, so it's not like I'm over here holding some kind of rare opinion.



Although my first thoughts went to the safety of the players, any time you've got that many people stampeding like that, severe consequences, such as when anybody slips or is pushed to the ground (and possibly starts a chain reaction, tripping others), are possible, and over time very likely.

Probably the most likely severe outcome, though, from stormings in general, is a fans vs players/coaches/staff Malice at the Palace situation, but potentially on a far greater scale.

As to changes in rules or perspectives over the past few years which have nothing to do with me personally, you might've noticed that society changes over time. For instance, I had a super typical and healthy 80s childhood. Now, virtually everything my parents did would widely be considered child abuse (by people other than me), including not only corporal punishment, but allowing me and my brothers to come home to an empty house, and allowing me to leave any time I wanted to go anywhere I wanted for any reason I wanted with no communication whatsoever.

A shitload of shit that used to be seen as cool is no longer seen as cool, for better or worse.

Also, you might've noticed how, over time, litigation, victimization, and blaming others have gone through the roof. Some school is going to wind up paying out a giant shitload of money when things go wonky, regardless of who is actually to blame, and schools are starting to figure that out.
 
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Tacario Davis doubtful for Washington. Huge blow if they are gonna match up man to man with Jeremiah and company
 

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Things I didn't say:
* Storming the field used to be safe for everybody involved.
* Storming the field suddenly became more dangerous across college football a few years ago.

What I did say:
* The storming of the field at Virginia on Friday night looked dangerous to me.

There were two main reasons for this:
* The extreme speed at which thousands of people covered the field.
* The precarious position of two players who were down on the ground.

These elements struck many people as awful and quite possibly the worst of all time, and despite the huge upset, people found these things more noteworthy than the game itself or the dramatic ending, so it's not like I'm over here holding some kind of rare opinion.



Although my first thoughts went to the safety of the players, any time you've got that many people stampeding like that, severe consequences, such as when anybody slips or is pushed to the ground (and possibly starts a chain reaction, tripping others), are possible, and over time very likely.

Probably the most likely severe outcome, though, from stormings in general, is a fans vs players/coaches/staff Malice at the Palace situation, but potentially on a far greater scale.

As to changes in rules or perspectives over the past few years which have nothing to do with me personally, you might've noticed that society changes over time. For instance, I had a super typical and healthy 80s childhood. Now, virtually everything my parents did would widely be considered child abuse (by people other than me), including not only corporal punishment, but allowing me and my brothers to come home to an empty house, and allowing me to leave any time I wanted to go anywhere I wanted for any reason I wanted with no communication whatsoever.

A shitload of shit that used to be seen as cool is no longer seen as cool, for better or worse.

Also, you might've noticed how, over time, litigation, victimization, and blaming others have gone through the roof. Some school is going to wind up paying out a giant shitload of money when things go wonky, regardless of who is actually to blame, and schools are starting to figure that out.

Wow so many words.

I agree that what happened last night was not safe. And I am aware that society changes. But most of the time field storming is harmless and fun and efforts to stop it risk squelching (another) one of the things that makes college football special and unique. Is all.
 

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Wow so many words.

I agree that what happened last night was not safe. And I am aware that society changes. But most of the time field storming is harmless and fun and efforts to stop it risk squelching (another) one of the things that makes college football special and unique. Is all.
Then they should probably get rid of the grassy hill. I don’t have any problem with people rushing the court or field. But if you add a nice sloped hill to the mix, it probably increases the chances significantly of someone getting trampled to death.
 

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Illinois with 459 total yards but two redzone fumbles

USC looking like ass but winning is the dream here
 
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