There is a subset of people here in Boston who don't know jack shit about college football but went to Michigan (often, though not in Portnoy's case, for grad school) and act like they do. He's just one of those - with a sports media company at his disposal.
Big 12 feels like it's going to be an annual crapshoot. A bunch of programs with similar resources and recruiting turfs. No true traditional powers, not a lot of doormats either. Kansas State is as well-positioned to thrive as anyone, but there's no particular guarantee that they will. I guess that's where the coaching comes in.
Things would have to get bad for 2-3 years before they'd make a change i think. Kansas State has basically zero history of success in football lol
I can’t cheer for SC, and I’d love to see IU punished on the field for their scheduling philosophy. Don’t think I’ll cheer for the Illini outside of that, though. Go Broncos!
You're spot on. Everyone is talking about all of the money Texas Tech is going to spend, but the two in state SEC counterparts are also going to be able to inject cash into NIL and The Portal as they choose to. It is also the one conference that probably makes the most regional sense in terms of where all of the member are located. Which isn't saying much.
| 1993 | Bill Snyder | 9–2–1 | 4–2–1 | 3rd | W Copper | 18 | 20 |
| 1994 | Bill Snyder | 9–3 | 5–2 | 3rd | L Aloha | 16 | 19 |
| 1995 | Bill Snyder | 10–2 | 5–2 | T–2nd | W Holiday | 6 | 7 |
| 1996 | Bill Snyder | 9–3 | 6–2 | 3rd (North) | L Cotton | 17 | 17 |
| 1997 | Bill Snyder | 11–1 | 7–1 | 2nd (North) | W Fiesta† | 7 | 8 |
| 1998 | Bill Snyder | 11–2 | 8–0 | 1st (North) | L Alamo | 9 | 10 |
| 1999 | Bill Snyder | 11–1 | 7–1 | T–1st (North) | W Holiday | 6 | 6 |
| 2000 | Bill Snyder | 11–3 | 6–2 | T–1st (North) | W Cotton | 8 | 9 |
| 2001 | Bill Snyder | 6–6 | 3–5 | T–4th (North) | L Insight.com | ||
| 2002 | Bill Snyder | 11–2 | 6–2 | 2nd (North) | W Holiday | 6 | 7 |
| 2003 | Bill Snyder | 11–4 | 6–2 | 1st (North) | L Fiesta† | 13 | 14 |
They've had 2 years of 8-4 teams in a Big 12 conference that isn't exactly setting the world on fire. They have also won two straight Nobody Cares Bowls presented by Who Gives a Shit, to bring the record to 9-4 both seasons. That might be enough combined with the 2022 season to keep th seat from being too warm in the near term for a guy who has a history of success at NDSU....but the way college fans work, there has to be a not insignificant portion of their fanbase who think bringing their golden boy back as head coach will up their level.
Yes. Bill Snyder had a nice run there. Forgot to include that.
KSU's decline since Coach Snyder was fully expected. His success was largely due to how they recruited JUCO and because of the Kansas JUCO system. I coached at Dodge City Community college and had the pleasure of meeting Coach Snyder and he has had a total different philosophy than any other coach there and fully understood the limitations and difficulty of being in Manhattan. I don't people fully understand how many grown men they had under Coach Snyder because of his they recruited JUCO under him
Yeah, I get all that. Still, outside of a 4-win Covid season, Klieman has two 8-win seasons, two 9-win seasons, and a 10-win season. All of this following a 5-win season by KSU's legendary HC. If we're adopting the perspective that KSU is historical shitty (and rightfully so based on natural disadvantages like location), one could argue Klieman's done a fantastic job.
End of the day, it's Kansas State. Only so good they're ever going to be. Kleiman's been fine, basically. If they think Colin Klein can do better, OK. But maybe they should see how A&M does for a year or two first?
Yeah, they can do as they please, but he might prove to be their Frank Solich in the long run. I still find it hilarious that Nebraska (another school with location issues, and a program built on steroids, advanced weight training, and training tables before anybody else realized muscle mass could be helpful in football) fired a guy who finished in the top 7 in three of his six years and in the top 20 on two other occasions.
Nebraska crashing out the way they did will never not be funny.
