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Irish#1

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We all agree the withdrawal was handled poorly and should've been better planned and executed. Both Biden and Trump are too blame for that. I don't get what's so hard to admit about that.
I already acknowledged Trumps role. I don't believe his share of the blame is anywhere near as it is with Biden though. Why is that so hard for you to admit?

For clarification, the agreement called for the release of 5,000 Taliban prisoners, but also the release of 1,000 Afghan soldiers. Smart move to get the soldiers released, because we all knew that once we were out of there and the Taliban took over, those prisoners were going to get out anyway.

Biden could have canceled or postponed it if he wasn't ready. You seem to forget that he had already moved the date from May to September. His own generals told him it was a mistake to leave in September. Instead he sticks with it because the Taliban might get upset? The 13 servicemen killed, the countless Afghans who assisted the U.S. that were killed or imprisoned and all of the equipment left is squarely on Biden the president who touted his vast foreign policy experience. All of that could have been avoided if he had just pushed this back.
 
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I already acknowledged Trumps role. I don't believe his share of the blame is anywhere near as it is with Biden though. Why is that so hard for you to admit?

For clarification, the agreement called for the release of 5,000 Taliban prisoners, but also the release of 1,000 Afghan soldiers. Smart move to get the soldiers released, because we all knew that once we were out of there and the Taliban took over, those prisoners were going to get out anyway.

Biden could have canceled or postponed it if he wasn't ready. You seem to forget that he had already moved the date from May to September. His own generals told him it was a mistake to leave in September. Instead he sticks with it because the Taliban might get upset? The 13 servicemen killed, the countless Afghans who assisted the U.S. that were killed or imprisoned and all of the equipment left is squarely on Biden the president who touted his vast foreign policy experience. All of that could have been avoided if he had just pushed this back.
Because we don't agree. The service members that died, died at the hands of the Taliban that Trump released. Trump negotiated the timeline, drew down troops and left Biden with a damn near impossible situation to manage.
 

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All I know is that Trump is sick of seeing Made in China on everything.. he’s pissed off at China for releasing COVID (a bio weapon), he’s pissed off at China for flooding our country with Fentanyl and he’s pissed off that we are no longer the world leader in making things.
 

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A lot of money being spent on these guys. Should be saving the good stuff for Iran/China/Russia. Start using the dumb bombs

 

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“Nearly every day I was there, I saw a new young child who had been shot in the head or the chest, virtually all of whom went on to die,” he wrote. At first, he thought this was an anomaly, the work of “a particularly sadistic soldier located nearby.” But when he asked other health care workers, he found that dozens were seeing the same thing.”

“I don’t really care about Palestinian nationalism. In fact, I don’t really care about any nationalism as a concept,” he told me. The issue, he said, is simpler than that: “My government, meaning me, is involved in major crimes, and I don’t want that.”

 

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China is worse though because of pretty obvious reasons. And I don’t think anyone else does it to the scale of China
Why is China worse that Saudi Arabia? Saudi money bankrolled 9/11, Al Qaeda and Isis. I can’t think of anything even remotely comparable that China has done.

They got directly involved in the Korean War but that seems like a rational decision given McArthurs push into the north, the close proximity of those troops to the Yalu river and the repeated statements from the Chinese government that they would get involved under those circumstances.
 
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“Nearly every day I was there, I saw a new young child who had been shot in the head or the chest, virtually all of whom went on to die,” he wrote. At first, he thought this was an anomaly, the work of “a particularly sadistic soldier located nearby.” But when he asked other health care workers, he found that dozens were seeing the same thing.”

“I don’t really care about Palestinian nationalism. In fact, I don’t really care about any nationalism as a concept,” he told me. The issue, he said, is simpler than that: “My government, meaning me, is involved in major crimes, and I don’t want that.”

Lol brother, they don't care for Muslims here. Supposedly they're invading Europe, but don't ask them for proof of the vast implementation of Sharia Law. They aren't people.
 

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Lol brother, they don't care for Muslims here. Supposedly they're invading Europe, but don't ask them for proof of the vast implementation of Sharia Law. They aren't people.
Blows my mind that any self professed follower of Christ would support what is going on in Gaza and the West Bank.

I mean, if Jesus was in say Bethlehem right now I’m pretty sure he would be vehemently protesting against the current Israeli government.
 

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Blows my mind that any self professed follower of Christ would support what is going on in Gaza and the West Bank.

I mean, if Jesus was in say Bethlehem right now I’m pretty sure he would be vehemently protesting against the current Israeli government.
Oh they take a very interesting approach/interpretation to Zechariah. Once the Muslims are out of the way....
 
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