Russia Invades Ukraine

[Sea Turtle]

I hate to say it because I want the war to end, but Russia looks like they are in bad shape. Finish them off.

 

[dublinirish]

I hate to say it because I want the war to end, but Russia looks like they are in bad shape. Finish them off.

you got the wrong administration for that

 

[ab2cmiller]

lol what does any country in NATO provide to the US in that case?

Frankly, probably very little for most. When NATO was created, the answer was totally different. Doesn't change the fact that the ONLY question that should be answered when entertaining adding an additional member.....

Does adding this country bring about more ++++'s to the Alliance then -------'s. If the country that you are considering adding adds virtually nothing to the table, then it would seem that the answer should be relatively easy to derive.

 

[NorthDakota]

lol what does any country in NATO provide to the US in that case?

Post Cold War i am not sure there is really an answer to that question.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Did he actually say those words. The video doesn't show where he said that. He did say they lost a lot of soldiers doing it, but I didn't hear anything about "so Russia should keep it". At this point it wouldn't totally surprise me if he did, but I'm skeptical since it wasn't in the video.

I can only assume it's propaganda at this point and that Twitter account can't be taken seriously unless someone can provide some proof.

I guess it's safe to ignore "The Intellectualist" from now on. I guess they must use that term loosely.

 

[GATTACA!]

I don't follow? All he said was it was unlikely that Ukraine was going to get back to their old borders?

Do you think it's likely? Because yes that is going to make people think you are delusional.

Oh that's all he said?

Must have missed the rest of his tweet full of Kremlin propaganda.

 

[ab2cmiller]

 

[Bishop2b5]

Just think, if Biden's admin hadn't let Russia invade Ukraine and get away with it, Trump wouldn't have to be cleaning up this mess now.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Just think, if Biden's admin hadn't let Russia invade Ukraine and get away with it, Trump wouldn't have to be cleaning up this mess now.

Based upon his words regarding Ukraine and Russia, do you really think that Trump would've taken a stronger stance then Biden?

It seems like he would've chosen to not get involved at all.

 

[NorthDakota]

Based upon his words regarding Ukraine and Russia, do you really think that Trump would've taken a stronger stance then Biden?

It seems like he would've chosen to not get involved at all.

Donald sent weapons to Ukraine. So I imagine he'd have taken (at worst) a similar stance and maybe told them both to behave.

 

[NorthDakota]

There's a lot of truth in all of these posts. Ukraine was a corrupt country before Putin decided to flex. They learned how to be corrupt while under Soviet rule. Regardless, there has to be a balance in continuing this because there has been no real progress by either side since it started. NK joining the fight probably is an indication that Russia is depleting their resources, but by how much? I don't think either side can sustain the fight much longer.

I don't think they learned to be corrupt via the Soviets. The Soviet Union didn't have some monopoly on corruption.

My parents had three Polish exchange students. I view those kids almost like my own siblings. Poles hate communism more than anyone. Lovely people. They will cheat at UNO and Monopoly if you don't keep an eye on them. They laugh it off when you catch them. They live by the Belichick/Harbaugh model, if you ain't cheating you ain't trying. Love them regardless, good people.

They are corrupt. It's who they are. It's infantilizing to blame it on the Soviet Union like 35 years after the Wall fell. They can't lean on that excuse forever, but they will if you let them.

 

[calvegas04]

Just think, if Biden's admin hadn't let Russia invade Ukraine and get away with it, Trump wouldn't have to be cleaning up this mess now.

You mean using the military to strike russia?

 

[calvegas04]

Donald sent weapons to Ukraine. So I imagine he'd have taken (at worst) a similar stance and maybe told them both to behave.

Russia is telling trump what to do not the other way around. Maybe trump would have told Ukraine they need to give up their land and resources so Russia doesn't invade and kill 10,000s of innocent people

 

[Bishop2b5]

You mean using the military to strike russia?

Of course not. That's your last resort, usually. Lots of diplomatic and economic pressure should be brought first.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Russia is telling trump what to do not the other way around. Maybe trump would have told Ukraine they need to give up their land and resources so Russia doesn't invade and kill 10,000s of innocent people

FFS, stop parroting MSNBC and think for yourself. Just repeating the same nonsense propaganda over & over doesn't make it true.

 

[NorthDakota]

Russia is telling trump what to do not the other way around. Maybe trump would have told Ukraine they need to give up their land and resources so Russia doesn't invade and kill 10,000s of innocent people

I think they are likely telling one another many things.

 

[calvegas04]

FFS, stop parroting MSNBC and think for yourself. Just repeating the same nonsense propaganda over & over doesn't make it true.

Again I get my news from the app Musk runs, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to get who trump favors

 

[calvegas04]

 

[GATTACA!]

Of course not. That's your last resort, usually. Lots of diplomatic and economic pressure should be brought first.

Like all the pressure Trump put on Russia during his first term that kept them from amassing their forces right on Ukraine’s border for “military exercises”?

 

[TorontoGold]

Like all the pressure Trump put on Russia during his first term that kept them from amassing their forces right on Ukraine’s border for “military exercises”?

Stop parroting MSNBC, use your head and listen to RT or Sputnik.

*I have yet to see you use MSNBC but I will project my ignorance onto you

 

[NorthDakota]

Like all the pressure Trump put on Russia during his first term that kept them from amassing their forces right on Ukraine’s border for “military exercises”?

Like the pressure he put on the Old World when he rejected Nordsteam 2.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Like all the pressure Trump put on Russia during his first term that kept them from amassing their forces right on Ukraine’s border for “military exercises”?

Did they invade Ukraine under Trump? No. They waited until long after Biden was in office, knowing he would do little to oppose them. Now Trump has to clean up the mess, one of many the incompetent and crooked Biden admin left behind.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Again I get my news from the app Musk runs, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to get who trump favors

Sure. You probably also still believe the Steele Dossier too if you're still claiming Putin owns Trump.

 

[Giddyup]

After Ukraine got Trump impeached over some bs it was gonna be hard for them to work together.

 

[Sea Turtle]

After Ukraine got Trump impeached over some bs it was gonna be hard for them to work together.

You do make a point.

 

[calvegas04]

Sure. You probably also still believe the Steele Dossier too if you're still claiming Putin owns Trump.

No idea what that is. What does MSNBC say about that?

 

[drayer54]

Google: Placing 'dirty' money in a service company, where it is layered with legitimate income and then integrated into the flow of money, is a common form of money laundering. Or taxpayer money placed into Ukraine and kicked back hence dumbass Zelensky “lost” 100 billion

Have you not seen Ozark? Have you ever been to a jeweler or a tanning store? Small casino?Strip clubs?

I also believe OnlyFans is a money-laundering dream. Move money to a foreign bank and credit card and then SPEND away. You can't tell me OF isn't a $ laundering hub.

 

[calvegas04]

 

[Irish#1]

I’m still wondering why Biden didn’t bring the two together to try and reach an agreement? Might have saved a lot of lives.

 

[drayer54]

I’m still wondering why Biden didn’t bring the two together to try and reach an agreement? Might have saved a lot of lives.

Because he didn't know where he was. His crackhead son and Dr wife were running the staffers.

10 Facts About Ukraine/NATO:

1. Russia is absolutely in the wrong for invading Ukraine. Nothing Ukraine did excuses or justifies Russia’s actions.
2. Ukraine is not going to be able to win the war, if the definition of the winning the war is recovering all the conquered Ukrainian territory. A continued stalemate will result in many thousands of additional deaths.
3. There is much more going on in this conflict than in the portrait painted by the media and establishment. It involves history, ethnicity, and other factors we westerners – including me, who’s actually trained Ukrainian soldiers several times on Ukrainian soil – do not and cannot understand.
4. Ukraine is an unbelievably corrupt country and the idea that no substantial portion of our aid money has been stolen is ridiculous.
5. The American people are by and large tired of subsidizing Ukraine’s end of this war. They are absolutely against American forces being involved.
6. China is a substantially greater threat to the United States than Russia in the macro. However, this war unacceptably raises the potential for US-Russian conflict. Do not imagine that this cannot spin completely out of control.
7. The Europeans should be taking the lead in supporting Ukraine and should be taking the lead in defending Europe.
8. The campaign to insult critics of past Ukraine policy by calling them Putin‘s puppets, etc, is a lie and is going to result in enmity towards the idea of helping the Ukrainians. You cannot insult Americans into obedience. You cannot fail to address their legitimate concerns and expect them to agree with you.
9. Some of our NATO allies are participating in internal repression, including suppression of free speech and the right to organize and participate in elections via non-establishment parties. This dangerously undercuts the moral argument in favor of NATO.
10. It is in America’s interest at this war ends. It is in our interest to draw Russia away from China and closer to the West. It is not in our interest to have a war going on where our proxy is fighting with a nuclear-armed enemy, regardless of how moral the cause of Ukraine is. The only way this is going to happen is if the United States takes the lead and forces Ukraine to make painful concessions in order to end this dangerous bloodbath. Ukraine is not worth a nuclear confrontation with Russia.