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[Rizzophil]

No political commentary here, but if the department of education is abolished then the cap and clearinghouse doesn't matter right? Tough to develop a strategy with all the uncertainty which makes me think we should just drop bigger bags on the right guys, high school included.

I don’t think the department of education can really handle that anyway

 

[IAIrish]

Carnell Tate aint getting past ND admissions

Why? He was a legit option out of hs, right?

 

[DomeFieldAdvantage]

Rumors out there that ND spent $20+million as well. Not that I believe it, because ND is a private school and doesn't need to report it, but i've seen it posted lots of places.

Are you sure you're not getting that confused with FUND having raised $20m?

Notre Dame’s Closing Collective Found Pot of NIL Gold in 2023

The nonprofit collective launched by former Fighting Irish quarterback Brady Quinn plans to end operations by the end of this year.

www.sportico.com

That says they raised $20m and distributed $5m in 2023.

 

[GATTACA!]

This was not a $20 million dollar roster. How would you even reach that number? That's bullshit.

 

[ND in iNDy]

Are you sure you're not getting that confused with FUND having raised $20m?

Notre Dame’s Closing Collective Found Pot of NIL Gold in 2023

The nonprofit collective launched by former Fighting Irish quarterback Brady Quinn plans to end operations by the end of this year.

www.sportico.com

That says they raised $20m and distributed $5m in 2023.

No, it's not me suggesting that. It's people from other fanbases. That's why i said i don't necessarily believe it. When I asked, none of them said where they sourced it. However, one guy did post a pretty graphic with all the top spenders and ND was 3rd at $20.3 or something. I'll try to find it again.

 

[T-Boone]

The problem is that if the current House settlement with the clearing house stands there is not going to be any above board spending on high schoolers anymore. That's why Michigan, Oregon, and some others emptied the bank this past cycle.

In retrospect, this was probably the year to open the check book on some HS WRs, Deuce, etc,

Deuce wouldn’t fit into this team. He is going to be a locker room negative at auburn.

 

[greyhammer90]

If we did spend nearly 15M on the roster like some are suggesting then I would like to know where it's going. I dont think Love or Price would've commanded big money this year because they were unproven. They both will this year. Love will get paid-paid next year I'm sure. Leonard obviously was earning a mil. We spent to keep Mills, Cross, and Watts around for another year and I'm sure Morrison got a good paycheck to keep him secure. We also paid the WR transfers and Jeter, but I can't imagine they were getting more than low six-figures. After that it seems like it would be routine payouts.

 

[calvegas04]

If we did spend nearly 15M on the roster like some are suggesting then I would like to know where it's going. I dont think Love or Price would've commanded big money this year because they were unproven. They both will this year. Love will get paid-paid next year I'm sure. Leonard obviously was earning a mil. We spent to keep Mills, Cross, and Watts around for another year and I'm sure Morrison got a good paycheck to keep him secure. We also paid the WR transfers and Jeter, but I can't imagine they were getting more than low six-figures. After that it seems like it would be routine payouts.

Maybe everyone on the team got a cut

 

[irishjim]

This was not a $20 million dollar roster. How would you even reach that number? That's bullshit.

It’s my understanding FUND spent a lot of money on giving every player a base amount of money, extra money for charity appearances, retainment money, and transfer money. As an earlier post said, they had around 20 million in the bank and spent around 5 million. Independent companies also stepped up to “pay” our players

It is my hope the new RALLY will combine all that while boosting HS payments.

 

[IAIrish]

Why didn't ND beat out UVA to get this DE? Ohio State DE Mitchell Melton will transfer to Virignia

Al Washington would've had a clear perspective on this one having recruited him to osu. My assumption is that Al likes the he's he has coming back more.

The edge guy I've never understood is Dasan McCullough. Dad and bro are on staff and ND has proven it can develop pass rushers. I get that he played off ball linebacker, but he'd have been a great addition rushing the passer. We ran out of guys who could do that consistently in September.

 

[IA4irish]

This was not a $20 million dollar roster. How would you even reach that number? That's bullshit.

Brice suggested last night that it was less than half of what osu spent. Closer to the 8 million dollar range

 

[notredomer23]

Brice suggested last night that it was less than half of what osu spent. Closer to the 8 million dollar range

Brice is adamant about this while O’Malley is adamant ND is in the 12-15 range

 

[ND in iNDy]

Still don't know where it was sourced from, but here is this...

 

[GATTACA!]

Brice suggested last night that it was less than half of what osu spent. Closer to the 8 million dollar range

That seems much more likely.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Carnell Tate aint getting past ND admissions

He has 3.6gpa at OSU, though. Why wouldn’t he get in?

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Why didn't ND beat out UVA to get this DE? Ohio State DE Mitchell Melton will transfer to Virignia

Apparently he’s a shell of his former self.

 

[Rocketman84]

Im confused. So now you are against bringing in 5 star talent?

Did you watch the game? What good is 5* talent if you can't get 5 talent the ball at a position like RB or even on the field. Much easier to get the ball to the RB than a WR and we made a choice not to do so

 

[GATTACA!]

Did you watch the game? What good is 5* talent if you can't get 5 talent the ball at a position like RB or even on the field. Much easier to get the ball to the RB than a WR and we made a choice not to do so

We ran 6 offensive plays between being up 7 and down 21-7. We didn't chose not to involve our RBs. That's what the game dictated.

 

[Rocketman84]

If ND is serious you bring back Morrison and Evans.

Morrison for sure but Evan is 1000% done

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

I'll have to look; it would have been from an article. I haven't pulled any of the case docs off PACER.

So, I think I've figured out why there is inconsistent reporting on the issue. When it comes to the clearinghouse there is no governing... anything. I don't think it's addressed in the House settlement at all and is wishful thinking about what the schools want to do. In light of that these quote makes a lot more sense:

But not everyone believes that the clearinghouse will pass the legal test. Steve Berman and Jeffrey Kessler, the two plaintiff attorneys who struck the settlement with the NCAA, have even expressed their doubts in the past.

“I have no idea how they are going to do this,” Kessler told Yahoo Sports earlier this fall. “Only thing they have (in the settlement) is that athletes must report deals to schools and the schools are going to send (the NCAA) what their deals are. If they think a deal is not proper, they could try to impose penalties on the athletes, which would then be subject to arbitration. They have no ability to go to an NIL and say ‘You can’t do that.’”

Brian Davis, an attorney in California who represents more than 100 football players in the NIL space, plans to file a legal objection to the settlement over the issue.

“I don’t think there is any world where you can require a submission of an NIL contract to some third-party clearinghouse to determine fair market,” said Davis, who heads the Forward Counsel law firm. “I don’t see that ever surviving a challenge in the courts without collective bargaining.

With non-football early signing period upon us, we're about to see how messy college sports is going to get

I found a copy of the settlement agreement from July. There was an amended agreement in October but I don't know what was amended and in my brief search I couldn't find that version. Anyway, this is the full text of Article 2, which addresses this:

ARTICLE2

PAYMENTS TO STUDENT ATHLETES & REPORTING ​

Section 1. Payment Rules. Defendants shall change all NCAA Division I and Conference Defendant rules to permit payments to student-athletes contemplated by the terms of this Injunctive Relief Settlement. For avoidance of doubt, payments that are not contemplated by this Injunctive Relief Settlement ( e.g., any payment to a student-athlete that, when aggregated with other payments above those permitted by NCAA Division I rules as of the date of the motion for preliminary approval, would result in a Member Institution exceeding the Pool defined below) remain prohibited.

Section 2. Member Institution Payments for NIL, Institutional Brand Promotion, or Other Rights. Each Member Institution, and each student-athlete, will have the right to enter into an exclusive or non-exclusive license and/or endorsement agreement for that student-athlete's NIL, institutional brand promotion, or other rights as permitted by this Injunctive Relief Settlement, provided, however, that no such licenses or agreements shall authorize payments for the right to use a student-athlete's NIL for a broadcast of collegiate athletic games or competitive athletic events. In addition the Member Institution or a designee/subcontractor of the Member Institution (e.g., a local rights holder) may act as the marketing agent for the student-athlete with respect to third-party NIL contracts; provided, however, that a parent, guardian, lawyer, or other competent representative may assist the student-athlete in discussions regarding entering into an exclusive or non-exclusive license or endorsement agreement, unless the student-athlete waives in writing the assistance of a parent, guardian, lawyer, or other competent representative.

Neither Defendants nor their Member Institutions may enter into any NIL agreement including but not limited to any licensing, institutional brand promotion, or endorsement agreement with a prospective or enrolled student-athlete for a term that extends beyond his or her eligibility to participate in NCAA sports; provided, however, that if a Defendant or a Member Institution has licensed the rights to use the NIL of a student-athlete to promote the Defendant or the Member Institution's academic or athletic program in content created while the student-athlete is enrolled, such licensee shall not be required to discontinue use of such content, if and as permitted by the agreement with the student-athlete, after that student-athlete's eligibility has expired. For avoidance of doubt, such licensee shall not be permitted by the prior sentence, after the student-athlete's eligibility has expired, to sell goods and services incorporating the NIL of the student-athlete, or to continue ( or continue to authorize) use of the NIL of such student-athlete to promote the goods or services of a third party.

Section 3. Third Party NIL Payments. The NCAA shall not have any Division I rules prohibiting student-athletes from receiving payments from third parties for NIL, other than as set forth in this Injunctive Relief Settlement. For the avoidance of doubt, entities or organizations that are owned, controlled, or operated by Member Institutions and/or conferences are not third parties. Subcontractors of a Member Institution will not be considered third parties in instances and to the extent they are acting as an agent, facilitator, and/or administrator for a Member Institution whereby they are making payments to student-athletes that originate from/are paid by a Member Institution.

Section 4. Mandatory Student-Athlete Reporting. All Division I student-athletes will be required to report to (a) the Member Institution in which they are enrolled and/or (b) the Designated Reporting Entity any and all third-party NIL contracts or payments with a total value of six hundred dollars ($600.00) or more on a schedule to be determined by Defendants. If a student-athlete enters into multiple NIL agreements or receives multiple NIL payments from the same or substantially the same third parties including, by way of example, any affiliates or parties with common ownership, such activities must be disclosed if the aggregate value is at or above six hundred dollars ($600.00).

Section 5. Mandatory Member Institution Reporting. Each Conference Defendant Member Institution will be required to report each NIL contract or payment reported to the Conference Defendant Member Institution pursuant to Section 4 of this Article to the Designated Reporting Entity on a schedule to be determined by Defendants, with Class Counsel also to receive a copy of such reports. In addition, each Conference Defendant Member Institution also will be required to report to the Designated Reporting Entity pursuant to Section 4 of this Article, on a schedule to be determined by Defendants:

i. any exclusive or non-exclusive license and/or endorsement agreement between a Conference Defendant Member Institution and a student-athlete for a student-athlete's NIL, institutional brand promotion, or other rights including those in which a designee/subcontractor of the Conference Defendant Member Institution (e.g., a local rights holder) acts as an agent, facilitator, administrator, or in any other capacity for a Conference Defendant Member Institution whereby they are making payments to one or more student-athletes that originate from, are funded by, or are otherwise made on behalf of a Conference Defendant Member Institution; and,

ii. any other payments or personal benefits (as detailed in Article 3, Section 3, subsection ( d)) that are provided to a student-athlete or the family of a student-athlete by a Conference Defendant Member Institution.

Section 6. Non-Defendant Conference Member Institutions. All Non-Defendant Conference Member Institutions that choose to provide or facilitate payments or benefits to student-athletes as permitted by this Injunctive Relief Settlement including but not limited to incremental scholarships permitted by Article 3, Section 3(b), shall be bound to the same extent as Conference Defendant Member Institutions by all obligations, benefit limitations, and roster limits set forth in this Injunctive Relief Settlement and as set by the NCAA in Appendix B to the SSA.

The clearinghouse is not part of the House settlemen; only the reporting requirement. Everything else is wishcasting and undefined terms.

 

[Rocketman84]

We ran 6 offensive plays between being up 7 and down 21-7. We didn't chose not to involve our RBs. That's what the game dictated.

Except our "elite" RB room ran the ball a total of how many times and RL ran how many?

 

[matman4593]

Not sure if this would count towards the current year NIL "salary", but Love got a significant payday in December. ND had to counter a big offer from a school that would surprise no one, and they matched to keep him. it makes $7m seem almost impossibly low.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Did you watch the game? What good is 5* talent if you can't get 5 talent the ball at a position like RB or even on the field. Much easier to get the ball to the RB than a WR and we made a choice not to do so

The game was last night?! shit

 

[Irish#1]

Anyone know why FUND was closed and Rally started?

 

[Irish#1]

Not sure if this would count towards the current year NIL "salary", but Love got a significant payday in December. ND had to counter a big offer from a school that would surprise no one, and they matched to keep him. it makes $7m seem almost impossibly low.

That could be numerous schools. Go ahead and tell us.

 

[IrishLax]

Still don't know where it was sourced from, but here is this...

This is completely fake and I want to know who made this graphic. Pulled numbers straight out of their ass.

 

[GATTACA!]

Except our "elite" RB room ran the ball a total of how many times and RL ran how many?

17 vs 7

But 9 of those were on the first drive that ended in a TD so it's kinda hard to complain about those. Also a few were unplanned scrambles.

 

[IrishLax]

The clearinghouse is not part of the House settlemen; only the reporting requirement. Everything else is wishcasting and undefined terms.

Who established the clearing house and other restrictions that are supposed to go into effect July 1st? What I was told by an AD at a MAC school was that it was going to be a nightmare to clear any of the currently constructed NIL deals with collectives by Deloitte.

 

[NDRock]

The game was last night?! shit

It was awesome, although I went to bed after the first drive. Assume we won by 40.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Who established the clearing house and other restrictions that are supposed to go into effect July 1st? What I was told by an AD at a MAC school was that it was going to be a nightmare to clear any of the currently constructed NIL deals with collectives by Deloitte.

I can't find any source for the authority or actual language or guidelines. I think it's only a concept of a plan.