2025 Transfer Portal

[FOTY977]

Paying studs is an over simplification of things. Did it work for Ohio state? Yes it did but it didn’t work for A&M and Oregon. Chemistry and culture still have to play a part. I like NDs current approach to the portal and Anyone who says ND didn’t belong are lying to themselves. The injuries finally bit them in the ass. It happens

We know we have the culture. They definitely belong. Injuries suck, but $5-7M of studs on the payroll gets them in the even money or favored position to Team Glory rather than the narrow path.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Colzie, Payne, Minchey, Tucker, Onye, Chan, Baker, Jayden Thomas, Housta

Onye is the only one of those that really stings, but I wish Thomas would stay. He seems like a great teammate.

 

[Dale]

I’ll be intrigued to see Tate as a WR1. His strength this season was finding open pockets when teams played the very safe zone coverages. Perfect for a complimentary role. We will see what he looks like in feature role

 

[benneboy]

Carnell Tate would be the best receiver on 90% of teams.

A OSU reporter asked Tate about the transfer portal right after the NC game and he gave a dodgy answer. Not sure if he's an option for us but a WR core of Fields, Greathouse, Tate, Faison with one of the Sophomores stepping up is what taking a big step forward offensively looks like.

May happen even without him but definitely happens with a guy like that added to this group

 

[benneboy]

I’ll be intrigued to see Tate as a WR1. His strength this season was finding open pockets when teams played the very safe zone coverages. Perfect for a complimentary role. We will see what he looks like in feature role

Are you saying he'll be WR1 at OSU or somewhere else?

 

[dublinirish]

Carnell Tate aint getting past ND admissions

 

[NDRock]

Paying studs is an over simplification of things. Did it work for Ohio state? Yes it did but it didn’t work for A&M and Oregon. Chemistry and culture still have to play a part. I like NDs current approach to the portal and Anyone who says ND didn’t belong are lying to themselves. The injuries finally bit them in the ass. It happens

Oregon went 13-1 and won the Big 10. Heck yeah it “worked” for them. Thats a great year. That’s like saying taking a transfer quarterback didn’t work for us because we lost the NC game. Oregon is making themselves a premier power which will only help with recruiting and staying on top.

 

[IrishWayDomer]

Paying studs is an over simplification of things. Did it work for Ohio state? Yes it did but it didn’t work for A&M and Oregon. Chemistry and culture still have to play a part. I like NDs current approach to the portal and Anyone who says ND didn’t belong are lying to themselves. The injuries finally bit them in the ass. It happens

Texas, Oregon, and OSU have the highest collectives and all 3 were in the final 4. This will be the rule going forward. ND, this year, was the exception. And that's why it hurts so bad - no matter how good MF is, we may not be in this position again.

 

[Huntr]

we would become more aggressive about spending on high schoolers in the coming years.

Good. It can't be an either/or thing.

 

[NDohio]

Texas, Oregon, and OSU have the highest collectives and all 3 were in the final 4. This will be the rule going forward. ND, this year, was the exception. And that's why it hurts so bad - no matter how good MF is, we may not be in this position again.

I am hopeful that ND recognizes the benefits - financial and PR - that making a deep run into the playoffs provides and decide they like it. If they do, MF will have all he needs.

 

[Dale]

Are you saying he'll be WR1 at OSU or somewhere else?

I assume OSU

 

[NDRock]

Texas, Oregon, and OSU have the highest collectives and all 3 were in the final 4. This will be the rule going forward. ND, this year, was the exception. And that's why it hurts so bad - no matter how good MF is, we may not be in this position again.

ND should never lose because of money

 

[benneboy]

I assume OSU

I'd assume he's Wr2 at best with Jeremiah Smith still there.

 

[Dale]

I'd assume he's Wr2 at best with Jeremiah Smith still there.

Oh yeah. Duh. I had him and Egbuka off to the NFL

 

[bumpdaddy]

1. Every NIL payment has to go through clearing house now with the expressed intent of stopping pay-for-play.

2. Direct text from the DoE it applying to third party NIL:




https://www.ed.gov/media/document/ocr-factsheet-benefits-student-athletes

Later on in the same document, you get this about 3rd party NIL

5. NIL agreements between student-athletes and third parties

As discussed in Part Four, compensation provided by a school for the use of a student-athlete’s NIL constitutes athletic financial assistance under Title IX. By contrast, OCR does not view compensation provided by a third party (rather than a school) to a student-athlete for use of their NIL as constituting athletic financial assistance awarded by the school that must comply with 34 C.F.R. § 106.37(c). However, OCR has long recognized that a school has Title IX obligations when funding from private sources, including private donations and funds raised by booster clubs, creates disparities based on sex in a school’s athletic program or a program component.30 The fact that funds are provided by a private source does not relieve a school of its responsibility to treat all of its student-athletes in a nondiscriminatory manner.31 It is possible that NIL agreements between student-athletes and third parties will create similar disparities and therefore trigger a school’s Title IX obligations. Because these NIL agreements vary widely and continue to evolve and because the application of Title IX’s equal athletic opportunity requirements is a fact-specific inquiry, this Fact Sheet does not offer specific guidance on Title IX’s application in the context of compensation provided for the use of a student athlete’s NIL by a third party, including an NIL collective.

So the way I read this is that 3rd party NIL is not considered the same as direct compensation by the university, which means the rules aren't as black and white, BUT schools are still obligated to try to comply with Title IX considerations nevertheless. However, because 3rd party NIL agreements vary widely, there is no specific guidance on how universities should police 3rd party NIL. So that last part pretty much indicates that 3rd party NIL is still going to be largely unregulated.

 

[NDWarrior]

Why didn't ND beat out UVA to get this DE? Ohio State DE Mitchell Melton will transfer to Virignia

 

[PigtownIrish]

No political commentary here, but if the department of education is abolished then the cap and clearinghouse doesn't matter right? Tough to develop a strategy with all the uncertainty which makes me think we should just drop bigger bags on the right guys, high school included.

 

[CanadalovesND]

Why didn't ND beat out UVA to get this DE? Ohio State DE Mitchell Melton will transfer to Virignia

Very little production with two ACL tears.

Or was this a serious question?

 

[NDWarrior]

Very little production with two ACL tears.

Or was this a serious question?

I'll admit I read it quickly (and don't notice that last two sentences about that, but instead immediately honed in on "Melton recorded 15 total tackles, seven tackles for loss and three sacks in 19 games on defense. He had 12 tackles and two sacks this year."

 

[pumpdog20]

No political commentary here, but if the department of education is abolished then the cap and clearinghouse doesn't matter right? Tough to develop a strategy with all the uncertainty which makes me think we should just drop bigger bags on the right guys, high school included.

I think we can be fairly certain the DOE isn't getting abolished.

 

[Irish du Nord]

The problem is that if the current House settlement with the clearing house stands there is not going to be any above board spending on high schoolers anymore. That's why Michigan, Oregon, and some others emptied the bank this past cycle.

In retrospect, this was probably the year to open the check book on some HS WRs, Deuce, etc,

Is the house settlement going to pass? I know there was previously some uncertainty with regards to the future NIL regulations

 

[DomeFieldAdvantage]

No political commentary here, but if the department of education is abolished then the cap and clearinghouse doesn't matter right? Tough to develop a strategy with all the uncertainty which makes me think we should just drop bigger bags on the right guys, high school included.

I don't see how it would effect it. Its not being forced by the DoE, but by a lawsuit from a former athlete.

 

[IrishTusker]

Texas, Oregon, and OSU have the highest collectives and all 3 were in the final 4. This will be the rule going forward. ND, this year, was the exception. And that's why it hurts so bad - no matter how good MF is, we may not be in this position again.

I don't agree with that, if it's all about money ND should be in this position again. ND can't move the school or change the weather. It can definitely spend more though.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Chan is interesting. Only a junior, so he might not be able to get his degree by the end of summer. If he has to do another semester for it and wants to stick around for the fall (and assuming we don't want to pull the medical retirement trick), I would definitely be interested in him at DT. He is well and truly buried on the OL depth chart and while we may have okay numbers on the interior of the DL, there are still only 3 that I feel any confidence in being able to contribute next year.

And while he may be slow for OL, DL is such a different job that maybe it works. Maybe he doesn't have the foot speed for OL, but knows how to lean to push a pocket. Or maybe he is strong enough to handle double teams or dent the line when one-on-one.

Apparently, he’s just not a D1 caliber player. He was a missed evaluation….it happens occasionally.

 

[NDWarrior]

This is the article covering the NIL changes and "caps" coming. From the piece:
"For example, in athlete endorsement deals through its collective and brands, Ohio State’s football roster is receiving roughly $20 million in compensation (outside the proposed school managed $20.5 mill.), Bjork told Yahoo Sports in July.
How does that get rectified?
The answer, though not easy, is that athletes land true endorsement and commercial deals from outside the school with third-party brands and companies. Third-party deals do not count against a school’s salary cap. However, in an effort to limit booster involvement, the settlement orders all third-party deals of $600 or more from school-affiliated boosters, or collections of them, to gain approval from a new NIL clearinghouse.
The clearinghouse, operated by Deloitte, is charged with verifying the authenticity of these deals using “fair market value” rates, poised to eliminate phony booster-backed compensation agreements so prevalent in the industry over the previous three years."

 

[ND in iNDy]

We really short on money? Or do we not want to spend at the OSU level? Legit question.

Rumors out there that ND spent $20+million as well. Not that I believe it, because ND is a private school and doesn't need to report it, but i've seen it posted lots of places.

 

[IrishWayDomer]

Rumors out there that ND spent $20+million as well. Not that I believe it, because ND is a private school and doesn't need to report it, but i've seen it posted lots of places.

Does this private/public apply to NIL? This isn't coaches salaries. Don't think Portnoy is reporting his $10M to the state department. This lives outside of the public/private situation.

 

[Irish8248]

Does this private/public apply to NIL? This isn't coaches salaries. Don't think Portnoy is reporting his $10M to the state department. This lives outside of the public/private situation.

BQ insinuated it during the podcast with Lavar Arrington after the PSU game. They were talking about the 20m payroll team and Brady strongly suggested that ND was very competitive to that number.

 

[IrishWayDomer]

BQ insinuated it during the podcast with Lavar Arrington after the PSU game. They were talking about the 20m payroll team and Brady strongly suggested that ND was very competitive to that number.

What's he supposed to say though? Yeah I ran FUND and we came up short?

 

[ND in iNDy]

Does this private/public apply to NIL? This isn't coaches salaries. Don't think Portnoy is reporting his $10M to the state department. This lives outside of the public/private situation.

Honestly, not sure, but in the same conversations others replied about about the private thing, so there was no way they could know. 🤷‍♂️