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MacIrish75

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I’ll start paying attention once they change leadership. Here’s how next season will go:

- Lose Week 1
- Lose in JAX
- Beat a few scrub teams
- Beat a contender
- People get excited
- Lose a close game to a good team
- Injuries to 4/5 OL
- Lose to a bad team
- QB gets hurt
- Beat TEN twice
- Have a shot to back into the playoffs
- Lose a key game and miss playoffs
- Win meaningless game at end of season
- Irsay satisfied with status quo keeps leadership in tact.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
 

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He talks about people wanting immediate results as if the fans haven't been patiently waiting to be competitive in the easiest to win division in the NFL for a decade now. Ballard has been here 8 years. Is he intentionally dive bombing this organization? I'm not sure I want to continue to tailgate and support this team if we continue to keep around the cancers that plague the team.
 

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Clown franchise. Hope Irsay likes having an empty stadium next year.


This is a real head scratcher. I can kind of see keeping Steichen, but Ballard? Eight years should be enough patience and bodywork to show if Ballard is or isn't the guy. There's no evidence to show that he is. Winning 7-8 games every year probably isn't going to let you draft anyone that can have a big impact.
 

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Please get Saleh somehow. If Steichen sucks it up again on offense next year, Saleh can have the team.
 

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As long as they bring in Aaron Rodgers as well. That would be a hoot.
I know you're joking, but there's no way the Colts can be that level of stupid. That dude has turned into a real cancer the last few years.
 

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I know you're joking, but there's no way the Colts can be that level of stupid. That dude has turned into a real cancer the last few years.
Yes joking. Rodger’s already has Saleh canned once. And he (ARod) sucks.
 

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Ryan Kelly signing with the Vikings. Any idea who they plan on playing center?

Ballard is finally playing in the free agency sandbox. Signed safety Camryn Bynum and cornerback Charvarius Ward. Both should be upgrades in the secondary.
 

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Ryan Kelly signing with the Vikings. Any idea who they plan on playing center?

Ballard is finally playing in the free agency sandbox. Signed safety Camryn Bynum and cornerback Charvarius Ward. Both should be upgrades in the secondary.
Center will be Bortolini, probably. I’m pleasantly surprised they spent some $$$. If they trade for Hendrickson I’ll be ecstatic.

Still really need to address OG/OT. I would love it if the signed Daniel Jones—I think he could actually be a Sam Darnold type QB which for us would be huge. I wish they’d offer a 4th for Michael Mayer, TE is another position we could upgrade.
 

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Center will be Bortolini, probably. I’m pleasantly surprised they spent some $$$. If they trade for Hendrickson I’ll be ecstatic.

Still really need to address OG/OT. I would love it if the signed Daniel Jones—I think he could actually be a Sam Darnold type QB which for us would be huge. I wish they’d offer a 4th for Michael Mayer, TE is another position we could upgrade.
Wish granted.


 

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I realize that Jones isn't elite or considered a top QB, but I won't be surprised if he beats out AR.

Colts resigned Smith at RT. Hopefully he stays healthy.

Yes, let's go get Mayer. That would solve two very big problems.

Had to look up Bortolini.
 

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I realize that Jones isn't elite or considered a top QB, but I won't be surprised if he beats out AR.

Colts resigned Smith at RT. Hopefully he stays healthy.

Yes, let's go get Mayer. That would solve two very big problems.

Had to look up Bortolini.
I was reading Jones thought it would be easier to be out AR than McCarhy in MN. I’m not sure if that’s something he said or if over analysis but yikes if true for AR.
 

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I was reading Jones thought it would be easier to be out AR than McCarhy in MN. I’m not sure if that’s something he said or if over analysis but yikes if true for AR.
AR has had a couple of moments where you go wow, but overall his WTF moments far outpace the wow moments. Are the Colts serious about opening up the job for competition? They've had a veteran QB backing up AR every year. Could be they are saying it's an open competition to see if that motivates AR?
 

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AR has had a couple of moments where you go wow, but overall his WTF moments far outpace the wow moments. Are the Colts serious about opening up the job for competition? They've had a veteran QB backing up AR every year. Could be they are saying it's an open competition to see if that motivates AR?
I don’t hate the move. Jones would actually be an upgrade as a thrower (puke). Has decent legs when not getting broken. But AR seems more fragile and is a run first guy that has proven he can’t throw well. This could be one of the worst throwing QB teams in the NFL. Both can run, both injury prone. I could see them both being hurt at the same time. Give me a #3 please!!!!
 

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Article from Indystar.com on why the Colts preferred Warren. Hope BenMo is available when they pick in the second round.



"The last time I felt that good about pulling a pick -- and I felt good about all of them -- was Quenton (Nelson)," Ballard said. "It was easy. It was easy. There wasn't a lot of discussion.”

As the draft process played out and the Colts refined their vision for what they wanted this new tight end to be about, Warren emerged as a fit in a way that Loveland simply couldn't match.

Ballard laid the tea leaves as recently as Monday's pre-draft press conference: “They have to be able to play on all three downs, but one that can affect the middle of the field," Ballard said then.

He then went on to rave about Jack Doyle, the last reliable tight end the Colts had, a two-time Pro Bowler who thrived as a versatile blocker and who spent his final season springing Jonathan Taylor for explosive runs toward the NFL's rushing title.

Loveland and Warren both played in the Big Ten Conference, which was not just the best league in college football last season but also the most physical. But the responsibilities and workloads they took on as blockers were inherently different.

Loveland, who measured eight pounds lighter than Warren, blocked in-line at times and mostly worked up to the second level against linebackers. Otherwise, he lined up in the slot and did his work against safeties and nickel cornerbacks. He rose to a level the Colts found acceptable as a blocker -- a version Ballard termed as "functional."

But as they searched for a Doyle replacement, Warren stood out in a very different way. It starts with his alignment versatility, as he lined up in-line, at fullback and as a move blocker from an H-back position. And it continues with his performance, as he's able to leverage that momentum as a move blocker, affect pass rushers as a chip blocker and hold his own as an in-line tight end. He helped block for a diverse Penn State rushing attack that unleashed two 1,000-yard rushers last season.

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“It’s important kind of in general as a football player to be able to be on the field as much as you can," Warren said. "… And then as a TE, it helps kind of the whole offense being able to block and be a threat in the passing game."

The total package mattered to a Colts team built around Taylor that's looking to live in 11 personnel with Josh Downs manning the slot. It's why they miss Doyle the way they do and why they have stressed the "three downs" piece of the equation.


"He's still got some growth to do, but No. 1, it tells you about his football IQ," Ballard said. "To be able to go in the slot, line up at tight end, line at wide, line at quarterback, line at fullback. I mean, they put a lot on that kid's plate and he handled it mentally. So, that just tells you that he's going to be able to handle a high volume on Sunday of whatever we ask him to do.”


It's not the way every team viewed these two, and that's made obvious by the fact that the Bears took Loveland ahead of Warren to pair with Cole Kmet, who is more of the traditional "Y" tight end already in Warren's mold. But that discrepancy only underscores the stylistic differences that became the way to separate the two top options in the class.

Warren didn't only stand out to the Colts as a blocker. After all, he turned in 104 catches for 1,233 yards and eight touchdowns last season, numbers that are hard to comprehend for a Colts team whose leading tight end produced 14 catches for 182 yards that same fall.


But the blocking ability and alignment versatility will play into how they structure their passing patterns as well. By living in 11 personnel, the Colts can keep a steady diet of option routes for Downs from the slot, where is too often where Loveland needs to line up. Warren can thrive out of the backfield or in-line more, which creates optionality to how Shane Steichen wants to draw up his protections and designs, especially on his trademark run-pass-option concepts.

The toughness and tenacity he plays with as a blocker lives in his routes as well, which can help the Colts in the part of the passing game they feel needs the most work in the middle of the field.

“When he gets the ball in his hands, man, there's some violence now that he's going to deliver to the defender, especially at the second level," Ballard said. "That aggressive mentality I think is going to benefit him very well.”
 

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I would've been fine with either Loveland or Warren. They are both great. But I'm so happy to pick up Tyler Warren. Think he can make a huge difference for us this year!
 

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I wonder if Tyler Booker would have been the pick had the Cowboys passed on him. I pegged the team as needing some more help along either trench. Warren seems like a pick for the future as I'm personally out on Richardson
 
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