Trump Presidency Round 2

[ColoradoIrish]

I've also never felt safer than in Dubai. The people are consistently nice and welcoming.

A country with strict gun laws and you felt safe, color me surprised

 

[drayer54]

A country with strict gun laws and you felt safe, color me surprised

They enforce the law in those parts.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

They enforce the law in those parts.

I know they have gun laws and enforce them. Everyone has to have a license and only certain calibers can be purchased. That's my whole point.

 

[Irish#1]

Mexican criminals may get their guns from the U.S., but Mexico’s attempts to eliminate the making and trafficking of drugs has been less than stellar given so many accept bribes.

 

[dublinirish]

Mexican criminals may get their guns from the U.S., but Mexico’s attempts to eliminate the making and trafficking of drugs has been less than stellar given so many accept bribes.

the mexican criminals are just reacting to the demand created in the United Stats though?

 

[drayer54]

I know they have gun laws and enforce them. Everyone has to have a license and only certain calibers can be purchased. That's my whole point.

That's also ignoring that everything else is different. They don't have open borders or Soros prosecutors. Also, not saying id live there. But definitely feel safer there than Europe or Asia.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

That's also ignoring that everything else is different. They don't have open borders or Soros prosecutors. Also, not saying id live there. But definitely feel safer there than Europe or Asia.

It's an authoritarian monarchy and country is 75% Islam. They rule with an iron fist and people have less freedom there than most of the world. Not sure what Soros has to do with feeling less safe. Do you feel financially secure knowing that Trump's pick for Secretary of Treasury has close ties with Soros?

 

[TorontoGold]

That's also ignoring that everything else is different. They don't have open borders or Soros prosecutors. Also, not saying id live there. But definitely feel safer there than Europe or Asia.

If you valued freedom of speech, democracy, or oppose theocracy you'd say otherwise. UAE's population is made up of 88% of immigrants, not sure you'd want that.

I think the appeal to many is the authoritarian rule and sheer lack of regulations that allows for exploitation of workers.

 

[drayer54]

If you valued freedom of speech, democracy, or oppose theocracy you'd say otherwise. UAE's population is made up of 88% of immigrants, not sure you'd want that.

I think the appeal to many is the authoritarian rule and sheer lack of regulations that allows for exploitation of workers.

Makes for a nice skyline. But yeah.

 

[drayer54]

It's an authoritarian monarchy and country is 75% Islam. They rule with an iron fist and people have less freedom there than most of the world. Not sure what Soros has to do with feeling less safe. Do you feel financially secure knowing that Trump's pick for Secretary of Treasury has close ties with Soros?

Funds local candidates who don't enforce the law and drive crime higher.

 

[TorontoGold]

Makes for a nice skyline. But yeah.

Is that a "I agree" or a "I'm ok with all that other stuff if I can get the nice skyline" but yeah?

 

[IrishLax]

Seems like another good pick by Trump.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Funds local candidates who don't enforce the law and drive crime higher.

Genuinely asking for proof of this. I've never seen anything to actually support this claim

 

[SeekNDestroy]

There's not a single what if or theoretical in there. We all know more people equals more costs. Stop being intentionally obtuse and dishonest about this subject. You aren't trying to argue in good faith or even debate the issue. You're just being intentionally dishonest to avoid admitting you're wrong about your claim. You know it, I know it, we all know it. At least be man enough to just admit you were wrong instead of this childish, dishonest nonsense. We expect that sort of thing from a couple of posters, but you're usually better than that.

Why should anybody else stop being obtuse and dishonest? You won’t.

I’m done reading your shit. Of all the posters that I have constant disagreements with or despise their opinions and positions, I’ve never hit the ignore button. That ends today. I hope Alabama gets swallowed into the gulf.

 

[Giddyup]

Say it ain’t so

 

[Bishop2b5]

Why should anybody else stop being obtuse and dishonest? You won’t.

I’m done reading your shit. Of all the posters that I have constant disagreements with or despise their opinions and positions, I’ve never hit the ignore button. That ends today. I hope Alabama gets swallowed into the gulf.

I'll miss you terribly. Not sure how I'll manage to go on, but I'll try.

 

[TorontoGold]

Yap yap yap. Not a single figure or statistic in sight.

For the record I never argued that more people doesn't equal more costs. More people equals more costs, but if illegal immigrants are contributing more in taxes then they are taking back, and provide more per capita than a regular citizen they are a net positive. How do you think things like local police departments and schools are funded? Are the sales taxes, payroll taxes, incomes taxes, property taxes, etc that are collected from illegal immigrants kept in some other bucket that doesn't contribute to funding these programs?

Not to mention the economic impact of their cheap labor.

Why am I not surprised this was never addressed or responded to?

 

[Bishop2b5]

Why am I not surprised this was never addressed or responded to?

Shhhh! Be vewy vewy quiet. Towonto is huntin' wabbits!

 

[TorontoGold]

Shhhh! Be vewy vewy quiet. Towonto is huntin' wabbits!

"At least be man enough to just admit you were wrong instead of this childish, dishonest nonsense. "

Why are you so allergic to responding with any support like stats? It's just the same old platitudes and empty nonsense. Your handlers have even stopped cleaning up your messes because they know how sad it's become.

 

[Irish#1]

the mexican criminals are just reacting to the demand created in the United Stats though?

Maybe, but that doesn’t make it right or excusable.

 

[TorontoGold]

I remember the angst around these parts when a fried corpse called Trump supporters garbage, or when there was red lights behind that same corpse and that really bad.

The tone police will surely call out this and not just performative anger at the other, right?

 

[Bishop2b5]

I remember the angst around these parts when a fried corpse called Trump supporters garbage, or when there was red lights behind that same corpse and that really bad.

The tone police will surely call out this and not just performative anger at the other, right?

I'll denounce it without any reservations. Not the right approach, not conducive to moving the entire country forward, doesn't move anyone to his side on anything, and isn't presidential. I wish he'd dial that sort of nonsense way back. It doesn't help and is inappropriate.

 

[ulukinatme]

I mean...radical left are kind of lunatics, just like the radical right are. I'm fine calling out extremists.
I don't really think anyone cried tears that Biden called all conservatives garbage though...if anything it got voters fired up, and Trump used it for campaign fodder. If we're being honest it was probably a misstep by Biden and I'm guessing his intention wasn't so much to be divisive, but the comment was too broad of a brush when he included all Trump supporters and it was too close to election day.

 

[ulukinatme]

They were so close...

 

[TorontoGold]

I mean...radical left are kind of lunatics, just like the radical right are. I'm fine calling out extremists.
I don't really think anyone cried tears that Biden called all conservatives garbage though...if anything it got voters fired up, and Trump used it for campaign fodder. If we're being honest it was probably a misstep by Biden and I'm guessing his intention wasn't so much to be divisive, but the comment was too broad of a brush when he included all Trump supporters and it was too close to election day.

When he calls anyone remotely to the Left of him as the radical left we all know what he means by it. You're fine to dismiss it away as Trump specifically talking about ANTIFA or any other anarchists but that would be foolish.

I'm not trying to drag Drayer into this but he said Biden's speech was Nazi-esque and also upset that Biden called MAGA supporters garbage, and Irish2155 (hopefully he's in a stable state now) was quite upset. Post #3358 in Presidential Election 2024 thread.

Doesn't matter in the end because anything he says is baked into his image from the MAGA supporters here, and we will all pretend that we didn't see daily posts about whatever mumbled Biden sentence that hurt the feelings of MAGA.

 

[drayer54]

Trump is having dinner with a lunatic liberal who is making Canada suck even more. Seems pretty unifying.

 

[JadedDomer]

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Vance cosplaying as Trump's wife in a Twitter post seems a little gay/woke to me

 

[Irish#1]

It would be nice for Trump to dial it down a few notches, but it appears that he’s not going to this time around. If people are still getting upset, then it might be best for them to stop reading anything political. Complaining about it isn’t going to stop it.

 

[NDVirginia19]

I remember the angst around these parts when a fried corpse called Trump supporters garbage, or when there was red lights behind that same corpse and that really bad.

The tone police will surely call out this and not just performative anger at the other, right?

What do you mean, he wished them a happy thanksgiving??