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[Irish#1]

And there's a direct correlation between conservatives and cognitive ability. So using your logic you and your fellow conservatives lack the ability to make good smart decisions

What's your source for this statement?

 

[ColoradoIrish]

To say they just want to be left alone when so many are constantly calling attention to themselves is a bit shortsighted.

It's not short-sighted in the slightest. I've made it known I'm trans only because the topic gets brought up repeatedly, and because I feel I probably have a little better insight on the topic that most. Today's world sucks because everyone has a platform thanks to social media and technology. Yes there are people from every walk of life that are outspoken and loud as hell about whatever topic they're passionate about but that doesn't represent everyone from that demographic. I hate people that flaunt that shit at pride or on social media. It doesn't represent me or the vast majority of the community. TBH I hate how sexualized some pride events and in return how's that's used to cast judgement.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

What's your source for this statement?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289609000051

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Serious question to anyone that wants to engage in a conversation, but how many of you personally know and have taken the time to speak to someone who is trans and try to learn more about it and that person's experiences? Some of you like to comment/joke about us being mentally unstable, groomers and any other negative stereotype that can be made. The truth of the matter is before transitioning I was on meds for depression and anxiety, and was suicidal with attempts/cries for help.I couldn't hold down a solid career job, and was reliant on alcohol, painkillers, and weed. Since transitioning my mental health, depression, anxiety and every other part of my life has vastly improved. I'm no longer abusing alcohol or drugs, I've stopped smoking, no longer taking depression or anxiety meds, and I'm excelling professionally.

 

[Irish#1]

This caught my eye right away.

Brooks, 2008 reports that conservatives engage more than liberals in charitable activities and people on the political right are nearly twice as happy as those on the left.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

This caught my eye right away.

That was one of the first things that caught my eye as well. The twice as happy part I believe. Too many on the political left are to busy wishing themselves with everyone else's problems to focus on their own and allow themselves to be happy. Reminds me of the ignorance is bliss saying for some reason

 

[ColoradoIrish]

And for the record I hate how liberal has become a weird to denigrate people. It used to be used to describe our founding fathers and their desire for freedom and their open mindedness to new ideas.

 

[ulukinatme]

The paper is a hypothesis. The snippets don't show the data, but what may be true for the sample group is not necessarily true for the people as a whole. Further, you're using said paper to discredit conservatives by using it as proof they cannot "make good smart decisions." If one political spectrum had such an edge in cognitive ability it doesn't mean the other side is incapable of making such decisions. There's no such correlation outlined in the synopsis.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

The paper is a hypothesis. The snippets don't show the data, but what may be true for the sample group is not necessarily true for the people as a whole. Further, you're using said paper to discredit conservatives by using it as proof they cannot "make good smart decisions." If one political spectrum had such an edge in cognitive ability it doesn't mean the other side is incapable of making such decisions. There's no such correlation outlined in the synopsis.

I was using it tongue in cheek after rdu said "Liberals are well documented as being on mental health medications at a strikingly high rate. Most normal, well adjusted folks probably don't vote but those that do tend to be middle or right."

Implying liberals are mentally unstable and only normal functioning adults are middle of the aisle or right.

 

[TorontoGold]

It's not short-sighted in the slightest. I've made it known I'm trans only because the topic gets brought up repeatedly, and because I feel I probably have a little better insight on the topic that most. Today's world sucks because everyone has a platform thanks to social media and technology. Yes there are people from every walk of life that are outspoken and loud as hell about whatever topic they're passionate about but that doesn't represent everyone from that demographic. I hate people that flaunt that shit at pride or on social media. It doesn't represent me or the vast majority of the community. TBH I hate how sexualized some pride events and in return how's that's used to cast judgement.

It's short sighted to claim "they're bringing so much attention to themselves!" but then become hyper obsessed with Libs of Tiktok or any other account that's solely focused on making the lives of trans people worse.

God I wish those transpeople wouldn't make me so bigoted and transphobic, I won't change my behavior at all because why would I? They're just so trans! Same argument as saying that rape victims shouldn't dress so revealing. No accountability or smoke for the actual transphobic people. Wild to me.

 

[Tejas]

Serious question to anyone that wants to engage in a conversation, but how many of you personally know and have taken the time to speak to someone who is trans and try to learn more about it and that person's experiences? Some of you like to comment/joke about us being mentally unstable, groomers and any other negative stereotype that can be made. The truth of the matter is before transitioning I was on meds for depression and anxiety, and was suicidal with attempts/cries for help.I couldn't hold down a solid career job, and was reliant on alcohol, painkillers, and weed. Since transitioning my mental health, depression, anxiety and every other part of my life has vastly improved. I'm no longer abusing alcohol or drugs, I've stopped smoking, no longer taking depression or anxiety meds, and I'm excelling professionally.

How early in your life did you find that something felt off? Im guessing that was the cause of the depression, anxiety, etc or was there other trauma?

 

[ColoradoIrish]

How early in your life did you find that something felt off? Im guessing that was the cause of the depression, anxiety, etc or was there other trauma?

I've known something was different about me for as long back as I can remember. I'm 36 now and started transitioning 3 years ago. The depression and anxiety got progressively worse over the years until I came out and started dealing with everything.

 

[Tejas]

I've known something was different about me for as long back as I can remember. I'm 36 now and started transitioning 3 years ago. The depression and anxiety got progressively worse over the years until I came out and started dealing with everything.

I'm glad you were able to turn your life around.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

I'm glad you were able to turn your life around.

Thanks! So am I! Not like it was bad before or anything. It's just a strange/weird dynamic. I got to play and coach college football, and travel around the country because of it. I just was never truly happy and felt empty on the inside. Wouldn't care about my future or have any life plans. It's crazy how drastically that all changed

 

[RDU Irish]

It's not short-sighted in the slightest. I've made it known I'm trans only because the topic gets brought up repeatedly, and because I feel I probably have a little better insight on the topic that most. Today's world sucks because everyone has a platform thanks to social media and technology. Yes there are people from every walk of life that are outspoken and loud as hell about whatever topic they're passionate about but that doesn't represent everyone from that demographic. I hate people that flaunt that shit at pride or on social media. It doesn't represent me or the vast majority of the community. TBH I hate how sexualized some pride events and in return how's that's used to cast judgement.

He look! Common ground! If you were as vehemently against people humping in public as you are Trump mere existence we might actually be friends. I wouldn't like being associated with pervs and pedos either - maybe we aren't that different after all.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

He look! Common ground! If you were as vehemently against people humping in public as you are Trump mere existence we might actually be friends. I wouldn't like being associated with pervs and pedos either - maybe we aren't that different after all.

Well that was never topic of conversation. Actually pervs and pedos sounds like a band name for Clinton, Epstein, and Trump so I guess I could've easily worked that into conversation. I've been clear on my stance Trump and that's not going to change. If we had a moderate Republican candidate who you know didn't try overturning the whole election thing, and was partly responsible for a group of people storming the Capitol building, I'd probably vote Republican.

I love me some small government, lower taxes, my guns, and keeping the government out of my house and healthcare. But sadly that's just not the case. And we're seeing what happens in places like Idaho, Texas, and Missouri when things get sent back to the state for the people to decide. The people don't really get to decide and are stuck with the decisions of the state politicians instead of actually voting on the issues.

 

[Irish#1]

That was one of the first things that caught my eye as well. The twice as happy part I believe. Too many on the political left are to busy wishing themselves with everyone else's problems to focus on their own and allow themselves to be happy. Reminds me of the ignorance is bliss saying for some reason

It was engaging more in charitable acts as well. Liberals think conservatives only care about themselves, yet it’s the liberals who aren’t as caring.

 

[Bishop2b5]

But ya the queers are mentally unstable because they want to live their lives without being bothered.

@Bishop2b5 what was so funny in my post? Did I get something wrong about Trump? Everything I said has been proven. So assuming it's not that I'm just going to assume your a homophobe who thinks every queer person is mentally unstable, and that must be the funny part to you.

I laughed because of the bolded, mostly. I thought some of the Trump comments were over the top and misguided too, but mostly because of the bolded.

Most people think that believing you're a man trapped in a woman's body or a woman trapped in a man's body, and the rest of the transvestite & countless genders stuff is 100% imaginary nonsense, but instead a manifestation of underlying issues and/or neurosis. However, it seems relatively harmless and as long as those who felt this way just lived their lives without being bothered, as you say, we were fine to mostly just leave you alone and let you deal with your issues in your own way.

The problem, and where the anger and pushback comes from, is when that community insisted we had to let biological males into the bathroom with our women & children, pushing this stuff on kindergarteners and elementary school kids, drag queen story hour, pride parades with public sex and perversion, and insisting that the rest of us agree that it's all perfectly fine and trying to silence anyone who opposes it.

Most of us were fine with "We just want to live our lives without being bothered" but to claim that after what's been going on in schools and in public the past several years is disingenuous. That's what I laughed at.

As for engaging with you in a civil and reasonable manner about transgenderism and mental health and related issues, I'd actually be glad to. Like just about everyone, I have at least one relative who's gay, and the child of one of my cousins believes she's a boy and is in the process of transitioning. I'm not without insight or compassion in the matter, and I'd love to hear your story and side of things. I've treated dozens of people with transgender issues. I'm working tonight, but in the next few days I'd be glad to have a civil conversation with you about it that would hopefully be enlightening for us both if you're willing.

 

[Bishop2b5]

It was engaging more in charitable acts as well. Liberals think conservatives only care about themselves, yet it’s the liberals who aren’t as caring.

I've seen a number of articles & studies from both sides of the spectrum over the years admit that conservatives routinely donate significantly more time & money to charities than liberals do. That's been an established fact for years.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

I laughed because of the bolded, mostly. I thought some of the Trump comments were over the top and misguided too, but mostly because of the bolded.

Most people think that believing you're a man trapped in a woman's body or a woman trapped in a man's body, and the rest of the transvestite & countless genders stuff is 100% imaginary nonsense, but instead a manifestation of underlying issues and/or neurosis. However, it seems relatively harmless and as long as those who felt this way just lived their lives without being bothered, as you say, we were fine to mostly just leave you alone and let you deal with your issues in your own way.

The problem, and where the anger and pushback comes from, is when that community insisted we had to let biological males into the bathroom with our women & children, pushing this stuff on kindergarteners and elementary school kids, drag queen story hour, pride parades with public sex and perversion, and insisting that the rest of us agree that it's all perfectly fine and trying to silence anyone who opposes it.

Most of us were fine with "We just want to live our lives without being bothered" but to claim that after what's been going on in schools and in public the past several years is disingenuous. That's what I laughed at.

As for engaging with you in a civil and reasonable manner about transgenderism and mental health and related issues, I'd actually be glad to. Like just about everyone, I have at least one relative who's gay, and the child of one of my cousins believes she's a boy and is in the process of transitioning. I'm not without insight or compassion in the matter, and I'd love to hear your story and side of things. I've treated dozens of people with transgender issues. I'm working tonight, but in the next few days I'd be glad to have a civil conversation with you about it that would hopefully be enlightening for us both if you're willing.

More than willing to have a conversation when that opportunity arises

 

[Irish#1]

This is hilarious.

 

[TorontoGold]

This is hilarious.

Your obsession seems to be growing.

 

[Irish#1]

Your obsession seems to be growing.

Posting a note on the bulletin board. Two day bout of amnesia. If you didn't find that funny, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[TorontoGold]

Posting a note on the bulletin board. Two day bout of amnesia. If you didn't find that funny, I don't know what to tell you.

Kind of runs counter to the notion they're calling all this attention to themselves.

 

[Sea Turtle]

To say they just want to be left alone when so many are constantly calling attention to themselves is a bit shortsighted.

If I was LGBTQ, I wouldn't be afraid of christians either. I would be afraid of the muslims who throw them off buildings, stone them and set them on fire.

 

[Irish#1]

Kind of runs counter to the notion they're calling all this attention to themselves.

Does it? Seems posting something on a bulletin board is calling attention to themselves?

I'm waiting for the opportunity to try that two day amnesia excuse with my wife. Hope she buys it.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

If I was LGBTQ, I wouldn't be afraid of christians either. I would be afraid of the muslims who throw them off buildings, stone them and set them on fire.

I can tell you from personal experience, both can suck, and so can people without any religious background. Religion doesn't make someone an asshole, just allows them a moral high ground to excuse it.

 

[TorontoGold]

Does it? Seems posting something on a bulletin board is calling attention to themselves?

I'm waiting for the opportunity to try that two day amnesia excuse with my wife. Hope she buys it.

You wouldn't post it if it was anyone else.

 

[TorontoGold]

If I was LGBTQ, I wouldn't be afraid of christians either. I would be afraid of the muslims who throw them off buildings, stone them and set them on fire.

Religious zealots are horrible in any faith.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Does it? Seems posting something on a bulletin board is calling attention to themselves?

I'm waiting for the opportunity to try that two day amnesia excuse with my wife. Hope she buys it.

It's sometimes called a fugue state. A few years ago, this guy in Albuquerque had one. Disappeared for a weekend then showed up naked in a supermarket claiming to his wife and the authorities that he had no idea where he'd been or what had happened. Crazy, huh?