Presidential Election 2024

[ulukinatme]

I think we can at least agree the proliferation of guns isn’t helping the issue.

I can agree on that, which is why I think we need multiple other protections in place to safeguard schools because Pandora's Box is open at this point.

 

[GATTACA!]

I can agree on that, which is why I think we need multiple other protections in place to safeguard schools because Pandora's Box is open at this point.

All schools should be completely locked down.

 

[TorontoGold]

I can't really say, I'm just looking for an answer why there's far greater intent to shoot up schools here as oppose to Canada. The simple proliferation of guns isn't enough to increase the number of school shootings 96x, there has to be other factors involved. Could be the health care in Canada, perhaps ya'll do a better job handling mental health. Lord knows we suck in that department. There's also history working against us. The Columbine shooting inspired many copycat shooters, the Nashville shooter being one of them. I'm just spitballing here though, there's a clear greater motivation here that's adding to the violence.

Sure, but if the country you're most similar to is performing at a rate that's 96x better I would look at what the most glaring and obvious difference is. I don't think American culture is that much more violent than Canadian culture by a rate that's more significant than the presence of guns. We've had our own versions of Columbine too, and our schools aren't any more secure than American school's either.

 

[Irish#1]

Just for laughs

 

[ulukinatme]

Just for laughs

He's right up there with Trump's dance moves.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/17/nx-s1-5113984/ukraine-trump-assassination-attempt-suspect-veterans

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Looks like someone else wants to take away your free speech.

Pretty fucking hard when she holds no office of any kind.

 

[Irish#1]

Pretty fucking hard when she holds no office of any kind.

Agree, she’s just a member of the Democratic Party with no influence just like Obama.

 

[TorontoGold]

Agree, she’s just a member of the Democratic Party with no influence just like Obama.

The amount of respect you have for the Democrats actually passing something of this magnitude is incredible.

 

[drayer54]

Agree, she’s just a member of the Democratic Party with no influence just like Obama.

Reminder Obama/ Biden used our tax dollars to meddle in foreign elections for their benefit and still haven't given up the game.

 

[Irish#1]

Pretty fucking hard when she holds no office of any kind.

And this dude very well could in the near future.

 

[Irish#1]

The amount of respect you have for the Democrats actually passing something of this magnitude is incredible.

Two prominent members of the Democratic party have said this. What you fail to understand is "Give an inch, take a mile". If the Democrats are in the WH and control both the Senate and House, there's definitely the possibility.

I could also say the amount of respect that you or any other have for Donnie turning the Presidency into a dictatorship (insert any other fear) is incredible.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

And this dude very well could in the near future.

Ever hear of the story of the man with two sons? One sailed away and was lost at sea. The other become VP of the United States.

Neither was heard from again.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Agree, she’s just a member of the Democratic Party with no influence just like Obama.

When she kills a border bill while holding no office, maybe we'll talk.

 

[TorontoGold]

Two prominent members of the Democratic party have said this. What you fail to understand is "Give an inch, take a mile". If the Democrats are in the WH and control both the Senate and House, there's definitely the possibility.

I could also say the amount of respect that you or any other have for Donnie turning the Presidency into a dictatorship (insert any other fear) is incredible.

What exactly have they said, be specific. What actions has Biden taken to take away your freedom of speech? He’s been president with control of all three branches, pretty crazy he let the guy fearmongering own Twitter.

Whataboutism for 500 Alex.

 

[Irish#1]

Looking at this clip, I'm guessing Trumps handicap is far worse than the 2.5 he claims. lol

 

[Irish#1]

What exactly have they said, be specific. What actions has Biden taken to take away your freedom of speech? He’s been president with control of all three branches, pretty crazy he let the guy fearmongering own Twitter.

Whataboutism for 500 Alex.

Nice try with the Vortex, but I wasn't talking about Biden. It's pretty well known that Biden is no where near the liberal that Harris and Walz are.

Trying to deflect for $1000 Alex.

 

[Irish#1]

When she kills a border bill while holding no office, maybe we'll talk.

You wear those blinders well.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

You wear those blinders well.

Keep projecting.

 

[TorontoGold]

Nice try with the Vortex, but I wasn't talking about Biden. It's pretty well known that Biden is no where near the liberal that Harris and Walz are.

Trying to deflect for $1000 Alex.

I was playing along with your theory that Obama and Hillary are part of a cabal that are going to take away your freedom of speech. Let's just gloss over the fact they had a Dem pres/senate/house and didn't do anything of the sort.

I should learn by now that you don't actually believe in the conspiracy theories that you post, whether it's Barry being a foreign asset or that Hillary and Obama are working to take away your freedom of speech.

 

[yankeehater]

As RFK Jr stated, this election will determine the future of free speech. Newsom is now targeting parody accounts and memes.

California governor signs laws to crack down on election deepfakes created by AI

The California governor has signed three landmark bills Tuesday to crack down on political deepfakes ahead of the 2024 election.

apnews.com

 

[ColoradoIrish]

As RFK Jr stated, this election will determine the future of free speech. Newsom is now targeting parody accounts and memes.

California governor signs laws to crack down on election deepfakes created by AI

The California governor has signed three landmark bills Tuesday to crack down on political deepfakes ahead of the 2024 election.

apnews.com

What AI can do and in return what nefarious actors can do with it, really imo makes this so much more than just a free speech issue.
Hypothetically what if the night before the election polls opened there was a leaked recorded conversation between Kamala is Trump that painted either in such a bad light in vastly impacted the election. There's no time to verify the authenticity of the recording and people take it at face value and it ends up being completely fake and generated by AI. Whomever was responsible should absolutely be facing charges.

That's what this law is targeting and I fully agree with having limits for AI. Now if we see it being applied to obvious parodies and memes, I'll have a huge issue with it. But there's a huge potential to use AI in nefarious ways to sway people and thus away the election

 

[Rocket89]

Great piece on the debunked nonsense with Springfield, Ohio looking at all the lies coming from the right-wing. Interesting look at it from a religious POV with all the Catholic Haitians and the Church doing good things. Quite different from the Blood Tribe content a few people in here like to share with the group.

Special Issue: The lies about Haitians in Springfield reveal how un-Christian the MAGA movement is

You won't find God in the Trump/Vance ticket

mcimaps.substack.com

 

[IrishLax]

You're right. The reason this is a big deal (PA. & FL.) is that one came less than an inch away from succeeding and the other was able to get within reasonable distance to succeed. In the trillions of dollars we have in the budget, our government says they don't have the money or manpower to provide more security for Trump. How about using some trained special forces, NSA or FBI agents to supplement? This guy set up 12 hours prior. I would think any facility/grounds where an appearance is going to occur would be swept and secured at least 24 hours prior.

Yeah and not only do I agree with a lot of what you and ulukinatme posted in your latest posts but let me take it a step further…

I have seen pictures of the Butler shooter, who is noodle armed dweeb looking guy. I also know my way around construction site and have carried many a ladder in my day. People really believe this guy carried a large ladder AND a rifle for over a mile as a “lone wolf”? Past hundreds of people and law enforcement? Not only did he get the closest anyone has gotten to killing the President, but it doesn’t pass the sniff test of how it happened. I look forward to reading the whole report when they release it, because I’m not trying to be a conspiracy theorist here, but it just seems so implausible that things transpired as currently presented.

 

[ulukinatme]

I tend to agree with limiting the AI stuff. Unless it's labeled as parody, sheep will begin to accept it as truth because the technology is only going to get better over time. Right now it's a little raw still, the sentences are a little broken and don't flow together. That's usually the tell-tale sign it's AI. It is going to get better though, and soon it'll be indistinguishable from a real broadcast and that could lead to some dangerous things if used for evil purposes.

 

[Irish#1]

What AI can do and in return what nefarious actors can do with it, really imo makes this so much more than just a free speech issue.
Hypothetically what if the night before the election polls opened there was a leaked recorded conversation between Kamala is Trump that painted either in such a bad light in vastly impacted the election. There's no time to verify the authenticity of the recording and people take it at face value and it ends up being completely fake and generated by AI. Whomever was responsible should absolutely be facing charges.

That's what this law is targeting and I fully agree with having limits for AI. Now if we see it being applied to obvious parodies and memes, I'll have a huge issue with it. But there's a huge potential to use AI in nefarious ways to sway people and thus away the election

Not just politics, but AI in general is a huge issue. It's like when the internet was expanded to everyone. It was the wild west for a while. Companies like X, FB, TikTok etc. need to develop software that has the ability to detect AI constructed content and place a note or warning that the content posted was AI generated.

 

[Irish#1]

I was playing along with your theory that Obama and Hillary are part of a cabal that are going to take away your freedom of speech. Let's just gloss over the fact they had a Dem pres/senate/house and didn't do anything of the sort.

I should learn by now that you don't actually believe in the conspiracy theories that you post, whether it's Barry being a foreign asset or that Hillary and Obama are working to take away your freedom of speech.

Didn't gloss over it. Todays political climate is far different than when Obama was prez.

 

[TorontoGold]

Didn't gloss over it. Todays political climate is far different than when Obama was prez.

Joe Biden had control of all three in 2020. That is why I mentioned that if Hillary or Obama were such a large threat wouldn't they have pushed their agenda through in 2020.

 

[Irish#1]

lol

 

[drayer54]

When she kills a border bill while holding no office, maybe we'll talk.

You drank the Kool-aid hard on that one. Trump didn't sign 93 executive orders to open the border and didn't stop them from repealing them. He also
Didn't stop schumer from voting on the good border bill. Codifying failure wasn't the fix we were all waiting for and the admin did this on purpose. This didn't happen to them. They literally flew hundreds of thousands of people in and you act like a damn victim licking an MSNBC talking point.