'25 MS QB Deuce Knight Auburn Verbal Ole Miss ???

Quarterback
Lucedale, MS
George County

Measurements
Ht: 6'4"
Wt: 185

Ratings
247: .................. #8 QB, #66 OA, 93 Rating
247 Comp: ..... #8 QB, #51 OA, .9729
Rivals: ............... #1 QB-D, #52 OA, 5.9
ESPN: ................ #2 QB-D, #133 OA, 82
On3: ................. #6 QB, #54 OA, 94


Offers
Notre Dame ......... Offered 3-17-23 ....... Committed 9-18-23
Auburn
Bama
Colorado
Georgia
Indiana
Louisville
Memphis
Miami
Mississippi St
Oregon
Ole Miss
S Carolina
TCU
Tennessee
Texas A&M
Tulsa
USF
Vandy
Va Tech
Washington
FAMU
JSU
SoMiss

Deuce Knight on Hudl

Watch Deuce Knight's videos and highlights on Hudl. More info: George County High School - Boys' Varsity Basketball / PG / Class of 2025 / Lucedale, MS

www.hudl.com

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Isn't that what is happening? My understanding is that ND can "compete" with any program's NIL but won't "pay" a player up front. Other programs will I guess.

This is exactly what I have mentioned recently……the scuttle here in AL is that Auburn is offering a large sum in upfront money but little in the form of what happens after that. NDs offer is structured in a way that the end game would likely result in a better financial reward over the course of Knight’s career with built incentives.

 

[NeuroSelection]

Hard to remember a recruiting fail quite like this one...

Flips happen. And it's one thing to lose a Keon Keeley to Nick Saban's Alabama. Even if NIL was a deciding factor, you can understand that decision on the field too. Or when Peyton Bowen follows his QB and his girlfriend to Oklahoma, at least they're a playoff contender.

But when a skeezy-ass mid program like Auburn comes in and steals your quarterback, it's clearly about the money (maybe the WR room a far distant second, Putup), and - if for some reason we're not able to compete on the money - we need to think long and hard about how we got so deep in to begin with on a kid/family who'd make that decision for that reason. Especially at the one position where you can't line up four guys in case one falls through. Fit matters so much at QB, and we seem to have really fucked this one up. Kinda for the second time in three cycles.

At this point mostly hoping that we can pull another Minchey off the scrap heap somehow, and maybe that we learn our lesson.

It actually sounds like it's mainly about early playing time, which Auburn can damn near guarantee, while ND can damn near guarantee he'll be sitting til his junior season. And I'm not sure what could've been done to prevent this, as Deuce didn't give any indication that it would be a problem early on in his recruitment. It wasn't until he refined his passing through camps and got a ton of praise on the 7 on 7 circuit that he seemingly changed his stance and decided early play time was a major factor. Without having the luxury of a crystal ball that can read the ever changing mind of a teenage athlete, there's not much the staff could've done to prevent this from happening. I'm not saying other factors don't exist, but that's my read on it if early PT is the main reason.

 

[ThePiombino]

It actually sounds like it's mainly about early playing time, which Auburn can damn near guarantee.

That's one way to look at it. Another way would be that this kid doesn't want to compete.

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[NeuroSelection]

It seems to be nothing more than a formality that he's still in the class, for those asking about a flip announcement. It hasn't come yet, but for all intents and purposes, reporters are viewing Deuce as a ND decommit who's strongly leaning towards Auburn and after taking ND off his bio on Insta, the writing is on the wall, has been for a while tbh.

Say goodbye to Notre Dame quarterback commitment, Deuce Knight

If you haven’t already

www.onefootdown.com

 

[PutuporShutup]

Hard to remember a recruiting fail quite like this one...

Flips happen. And it's one thing to lose a Keon Keeley to Nick Saban's Alabama. Even if NIL was a deciding factor, you can understand that decision on the field too. Or when Peyton Bowen follows his QB and his girlfriend to Oklahoma, at least they're a playoff contender.

But when a skeezy-ass mid program like Auburn comes in and steals your quarterback, it's clearly about the money (maybe the WR room a far distant second, Putup), and - if for some reason we're not able to compete on the money - we need to think long and hard about how we got so deep in to begin with on a kid/family who'd make that decision for that reason. Especially at the one position where you can't line up four guys in case one falls through. Fit matters so much at QB, and we seem to have really fucked this one up. Kinda for the second time in three cycles.

At this point mostly hoping that we can pull another Minchey off the scrap heap somehow, and maybe that we learn our lesson.

WR room is actually really good, just not the 25 class. I have minimal facts to back this up, but I think Deuce wasn't really recruiting WRs hard for ND the last few months due to not being 100% on ND, despite still going on visits to ND. I just can't imagine one of the top talents you've seen at QB, that can throw the ball, can't get some talented WRs to come with him, if he's trying to get them.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Just man up and decommit already instead of dragging it out like a prima donna or Freeman should drop this Deuce.

The second he went on another visit he was decommitted. Just hasn't come out and publicly stated it. But in his eyes, and ND eyes, he wasn't committed. The issue IMO, is that ND still seems to have been going all in on him despite his decommitment. Just like bowen.

 

[PutuporShutup]

It actually sounds like it's mainly about early playing time, which Auburn can damn near guarantee, while ND can damn near guarantee he'll be sitting til his junior season. And I'm not sure what could've been done to prevent this, as Deuce didn't give any indication that it would be a problem early on in his recruitment. It wasn't until he refined his passing through camps and got a ton of praise on the 7 on 7 circuit that he seemingly changed his stance and decided early play time was a major factor. Without having the luxury of a crystal ball that can read the ever changing mind of a teenage athlete, there's not much the staff could've done to prevent this from happening.

ND is losing its starting QB and the fan favorite to have the job in 25 is a true frosh this year. I think you should be able to sell him on being in the competition. It's not like it's going to be handed to Carr.

 

[NDpendent]

The formal public decommittment isn't necessary. The staff knows he isn't committed and isn't sitting on their hands waiting for anything

 

[NeuroSelection]

ND is losing its starting QB and the fan favorite to have the job in 25 is a true frosh this year. I think you should be able to sell him on being in the competition. It's not like it's going to be handed to Carr.

It's not being handed to Carr, but he's getting tons of praise from coaches and other players, he'll be a year ahead of Deuce in learning the system and adjusting to the college game, and imo Carr is viewed as the more "sure thing". Carr is seen as a high floor QB with a family football lineage and tutoring from an early age, while Deuce is seen as more of a "boom or bust" QB with elite upside, a potentially generational talent that's still raw and will need to continue to refine his game in college. All these things play into the optics of whether he can defeat Carr early on in a QB battle and they likely affect his own perception of whether he can beat him out, imo justifiably so. Point being, if early play time has become that important to him, it's a much tougher sell for ND with their QB room than it is for Auburn, a team with a shaky recent history at QB, but that also seems to be on the upswing in recruiting.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I'm not a doom & gloomer so take this with a grain of salt:

Deuce is gone and whoGAF. If he ends up at Auburn, we'll likely watch him flame out and we'll be proud that we drove up the bidding price so the Auburn alums were left holding their own bags after spending all their cash on him upfront. I would hazard a family looking for payout upfront will be looking for another if Deuce isn't starting early in his career. He's a yearly flight risk.

He's always been a boom/bust prospect, nothing has changed in that regard.

I hope Freeman & Co continue looking for high level prospects but I hope they are learning how to filter out the guys looking ONLY for a big payday. ND can compete in that space but they also require work in the classroom and longer term commitment. We'll never be a team made of mercenaries. We can augment in the transfer portal but the foundation of ND teams are athletes developed over years.

I hope they can find a late riser who already shows the ability to go through his reads or snag a current commit elsewhere who'll be a better longterm fit. Look at the upside and prepare for the coming season ladies and gents!

For those excited by the turmoil and who only get their rocks off by fear/trepidation and negativity:

 

[PutuporShutup]

It's not being handed to Carr, but he's getting tons of praise from coaches and other players, he'll be a year ahead of Deuce in learning the system and adjusting to the college game, and imo Carr is viewed as the more "sure thing". Carr is seen as a high floor QB with a family football lineage and tutoring from an early age, while Deuce is seen as more of a "boom or bust" QB with elite upside, a potentially generational talent that's still raw and will need to continue to refine his game in college. All these things play into the optics of whether he can defeat Carr early on in a QB battle and they likely affect his own perception of whether he can beat him out, imo justifiably so. Point being, if early play time has become that important to him, it's a much tougher sell for ND with their QB room than it is for Auburn, a team with a shaky recent history at QB, but that also seems to be on the upswing in recruiting.

i understand........ if day 1 starter guarantee is his main goal and $$$, hard to offer that

 

[GATTACA!]

I hope the staff replaces him with a high upside risky QB instead of a 5’10 clipboard holder. Carr has a very high floor and you have the Grubbb coming in behind. Swing for the fences with Deuce’s replacement.

 

[dublinirish]

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I'm not a doom & gloomer so take this with a grain of salt:

Deuce is gone and whoGAF. If he ends up at Auburn, we'll likely watch him flame out and we'll be proud that we drove up the bidding price so the Auburn alums were left holding their own bags after spending all their cash on him upfront. I would hazard a family looking for payout upfront will be looking for another if Deuce isn't starting early in his career. He's a yearly flight risk.

He's always been a boom/bust prospect, nothing has changed in that regard.

I hope Freeman & Co continue looking for high level prospects but I hope they are learning how to filter out the guys looking ONLY for a big payday. ND can compete in that space but they also require work in the classroom and longer term commitment. We'll never be a team made of mercenaries. We can augment in the transfer portal but the foundation of ND teams are athletes developed over years.

I hope they can find a late riser who already shows the ability to go through his reads or snag a current commit elsewhere who'll be a better longterm fit. Look at the upside and prepare for the coming season ladies and gents!

For those excited by the turmoil and who only get their rocks off by fear/trepidation and negativity:

I've been saying all along for those who would listen: I'd take CJ Carr over Duece Knight, today, if I had to choose between the two.

People are wrong in the recruiting biz all the time. Hindsight is 20/20, but give me the more polished QB on day 1, than the raw talent with the "higher ceiling," if that's even the case.

Now, if he goes on to be the next great one for Auburn, good for him. But we will be JUST FINE with CJ Carr holding the keys to the future. Obviously we all want both, but our program is not burning to ashes without Knight. Good luck to the kid. CJ Carr chose hard (and I'm sure plenty of money, eventually), Knight chose the bag.

 

[NeuroSelection]

i understand........ if day 1 starter guarantee is his main goal and $$$, hard to offer that

It's entirely possible that the job offer Auburn gave his parents might've gotten Auburn's foot in the door (if the reports on this are true). If the Auburn staff contacted his dad and said "If he comes here, we'll get you a position with a 6 figure salary", I wouldn't be shocked if he talked to Deuce and said, "Well, just take a visit there and see what it's about". From there, everything could've just snow balled, all of the lingering internal doubts he was battling to silence got louder, and he started to become more open to pitches from staff/teams selling immediate upside and instant gratification vs NDs long term 4 for 40 pitch. I doubt we'll ever get full clarity on what happened, but it would be nice to know exactly where things went wrong, even if only to determine where the blame, if any, should fall.

 

[PutuporShutup]

I hope the staff replaces him with a high upside risky QB instead of a 5’10 clipboard holder. Carr has a very high floor and you have the Grubbb coming in behind. Swing for the fences with Deuce’s replacement.

Personally, i'm not as high on Grubb as many others. So I was really hoping it would be a Carr starter with knight packages for 2 years, then Knight taking over for 1 or 2

 

[Pete]

why are they calling that spaghetti "chili?"
Please educate yourselves on some actual chili cuisine:
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Lafayette Coney Island?

 

[PutuporShutup]

I've been saying all along for those who would listen: I'd take CJ Carr over Duece Knight, today, if I had to choose between the two.

People are wrong in the recruiting biz all the time. Hindsight is 20/20, but give me the more polished QB on day 1, than the raw talent with the "higher ceiling," if that's even the case.

Now, if he goes on to be the next great one for Auburn, good for him. But we will be JUST FINE with CJ Carr holding the keys to the future. Obviously we all want both, but our program is not burning to ashes without Knight. Good luck to the kid. CJ Carr chose hard (and I'm sure plenty of money, eventually), Knight chose the bag.

The history isn't good for HS Qbs that are more about getting their money upfront than development. Carr is completely focused on development you can tell.

With that said, knight is an unreal talent, but I just don't think he has his priorities right, and it will hurt him in the long run.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Lafayette Coney Island?

My man. You know the one and true Coney Island.

 

[Pete]

My man. You know the one and true Coney Island.

The one and only, I‘d rather wait for an hour for a seat to open up than go next door to the empty American. 😂

 

[calvegas04]

ND can't compete with the Auburns of the world

 

[Sea Turtle]

I'd offer my culinary experiences to anyone looking for tips to take your home cooking to another level.

IE Private Consulting Chef for hire.

Well isn't that the problem here? I saw in an article somewhere that none of the players in the SEC are majoring in the culinary arts.

Clearly, they don't respect fine cuisine in the SEC and I guess Deuce is ok with that.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

Everyone has to drop a Deuce at some point. It's as inevitable as driving a Carr.

 

[IrishTusker]

ND can't compete with the Auburns of the world

ND can't guarantee someone a starting job in order to come here. Nor should ND be giving a job to a recruit's parents to get the kid to sign. Sorry.

 

[Kingbish01]

ND can't compete with the Auburns of the world

Auburn is coming off of 3 seasons in a row of being sub .500 Do you know when the last time ND has had 3 seasons in a row of sub .500? I'll give you a hint, you have to go waaay waaay back to.....it's never happened.

 

[Johannes]

The one and only, I‘d rather wait for an hour for a seat to open up than go next door to the empty American. 😂

Flint-style chili is vastly superior to any of the slop being produced in the Detroit coney houses. I'll die on this hill.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Auburn is coming off of 3 seasons in a row of being sub .500 Do you know when the last time ND has had 3 seasons in a row of sub .500? I'll give you a hint, you have to go waaay waaay back to.....it's never happened.

bUt nD dOesNt pLaY aN sEc sChedUle

 

[Huntr]

maybe that we learn our lesson.

Best laugh I've had all day.

 

[laughingirish90]

ND can't compete with the Auburns of the world

well we signed a 5 star LB and DE and the best RB duo in the nation along with a borderline 5 star OT in the last recruiting cycle then we have several players in this class rated top ten or 15 at there position and last but not least we have a top 10 rated QB in the 26 class and are favorites or near favorites for two 5 star safeties also in the 26 class

 

[NDFAN2008]

Now he has Ndfootball tagged in his bio again on Instagram