Presidential Election 2024

[TorontoGold]

Uhhhh...no. The feds forcing banks to give mortgages to people who couldn't afford them was the cause of 2008.

Lol....yeah the tax reform act of 1986 had nothing to do with it.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Yeah, you can miss me with all that. I wasn't the one that threw the first stone, and that was the entire point of the reply. There are no saints on either side of the aisle. You're right, anyone that sexually abuses kids is a POS, no argument from me there. But otherwise? There's no moral high ground between these parties in politics, they're both scummy and pretending they're not is disingenuous.

I've said that countless times about both parties and the current candidates. But when you rebuttal the way you do, you vilify only one side and you use specific examples that ostracize a very specific group of people, which just so happens to be under attack. Thank you for admitting both sides suck

 

[Bluto]

Yeah, you can miss me with all that. I wasn't the one that threw the first stone, and that was the entire point of the reply. There are no saints on either side of the aisle. You're right, anyone that sexually abuses kids is a POS, no argument from me there. But otherwise? There's no moral high ground between these parties in politics, they're both scummy and pretending they're not is disingenuous.

Uh yeah. That’s kind of the point. Large segments of the right have for as long as I can remember and continue to this day to present themselves as the “moral guardians” of America. Christian right wingers are usually the first up in the stone throwing while at the same time being engaged in morally reprehensible shenanigan's based on their own espoused values.

You can’t “rig” a primary in the way you are presenting it as a false equivalent to a general election. The party and the delegates can do whatever they want, nominate whoever they want and it’s not illegal. If people don’t like it they can register with another party.

One group did try to prevent the peaceful transfer of power through multiple nefarious means up to and including slandering a couple of regular every day poll workers and a violent insurrection. You keep insisting on this “two sides” bullshit which is demonstrably inaccurate.

You’re arguing in bad faith.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Lol. That’s the point. The right has for as long as I can remember and continues to this day to present itself as the “moral guardians” of America.

Trump and God will save America! It doesn't get more clear than that

 

[Bluto]

Trump and God will save America! It doesn't get more clear than that

Seriously. Supporting a con artist, criminal and overall degenerate to defeat the “satanic forces” destroying the country is about as stupid as it gets.

 

[Bluto]

I wonder if Mark “abortion is murder but yeah we had an abortion” Robinson is going to turn himself in for murder?

 

[NDVirginia19]

This is really fucking hilarious, Jesus Christ DNC

 

[GATTACA!]

This is really fucking hilarious, Jesus Christ DNC

Amateurs. Everyone knows the best time to schedule a vasectomy is the first weekend of march madness.

 

[TorontoGold]

Lmao Republican's "We don't want the government in your bedroom!" "WE want to be in every aspect of your life and ensure that your reproductive organs are ours, I mean, you're only born to breed!"

 

[ulukinatme]

Uh yeah. That’s kind of the point. Large segments of the right have for as long as I can remember and continue to this day to present themselves as the “moral guardians” of America. Christian right wingers are usually the first up in the stone throwing while at the same time being engaged in morally reprehensible shenanigan's based on their own espoused values.

You can’t “rig” a primary in the way you are presenting it as a false equivalent to a general election. The party and the delegates can do whatever they want, nominate whoever they want and it’s not illegal. If people don’t like it they can register with another party.

One group did try to prevent the peaceful transfer of power through multiple nefarious means up to and including slandering a couple of regular every day poll workers and a violent insurrection. You keep insisting on this “two sides” bullshit which is demonstrably inaccurate.

You’re arguing in bad faith.

No.

Both sides are horrible.

End of story.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Lmao Republican's "We don't want the government in your bedroom!" "WE want to be in every aspect of your life and ensure that your reproductive organs are ours, I mean, you're only born to breed!"

Don't forget "we care about the lives of children, but we refuse to address their lives and do anything to protect our better their lives once they're born" they're whole party platform is built upon hypocrisy and gas lighting people into thinking they care

 

[ulukinatme]

Don't forget "we care about the lives of children, but we refuse to address their lives and do anything to protect our better their lives once they're born" they're whole party platform is built upon hypocrisy and gas lighting people into thinking they care

Again, true of all politicians. Pretending either side really cares about the people is silly. They care about money and power. They care about themselves.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Again, true of all politicians. Pretending either side really cares about the people is silly. They care about money and power. They care about themselves.

All people selfish and all politicians suck, but one party is blatantly obvious about only lining their pockets and the pockets of their donors. And there's nothing wrong with calling them out for that, at least the Democrats aren't making women carry their rapists child to term, and they at least pretend to give a shit.

 

[ulukinatme]

All people selfish and all politicians suck, but one party is blatantly obvious about only lining their pockets and the pockets of their donors. And there's nothing wrong with calling them out for that, at least the Democrats aren't making women carry their rapists child to term, and they at least pretend to give a shit.

Bless your heart. You're a tremendous sheep, my friend. Half of the liberals polled wanted people sent to prison and/or fined for refusing the experimental jab or questioning it's efficacy. Nearly the same number were for relocating these people to "quarantine camps" also. My body, my choice, am I right? But yeah, they give a shit. What's the phrase? Every time you point a finger there's 3 more pointing back at you.

I'm sure there's better examples, but it's like...1am here, and I'm getting bored with this silly charade. Both parties are awful, defending either of them is silly.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Bless your heart. You're a tremendous sheep, my friend. Half of the liberals wanted people sent to prison and/or fined for refusing the experimental jab or questioning it's efficacy. Nearly the same number were for relocating these people to "quarantine camps" also. My body, my choice, am I right? But yeah, they give a shit. What's the phrase? Every time you point a finger there's 3 more pointing back at you.

I'm sure there's better examples, but it's like...1am here, and I'm getting bored with this silly charade. Both parties are awful, defending either of them is silly.

I said at least one pretends. And again not sheep, never voted for Democrat presidential candidate or republican.

 

[Bluto]

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Bless your heart. You're a tremendous sheep, my friend. Half of the liberals polled wanted people sent to prison and/or fined for refusing the experimental jab or questioning it's efficacy. Nearly the same number were for relocating these people to "quarantine camps" also. My body, my choice, am I right? But yeah, they give a shit. What's the phrase? Every time you point a finger there's 3 more pointing back at you.

I'm sure there's better examples, but it's like...1am here, and I'm getting bored with this silly charade. Both parties are awful, defending either of them is silly.

How to say “I’m a condescending prick”. Glad you were able to dodge the left wing concentration camps. Lol.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

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How to say “I’m a condescending prick”. Glad you were able to dodge the left wing concentration camps. Lol.

I have family from the South I'm well aware of what bless your heart means 😂 somehow I'm the sheep when all I'm doing is calling out their hypocrisy. He won't rebuttal any point in good faith because he's a sheep to his daddy Trump and the GOP

 

[TorontoGold]

Oh my, concentration camps. I can't believe I was gaslit into believing that pink haired libs were the snowflakes.

 

[Rocket89]

'Both sides' is a core tenet belief of the right today. We see it in page after page of these political threads. It's always the right using it as a crutch. It's always in bad faith.

One, it prevents the right from holding themselves accountable, which leads to even further moral decay and even worse politicians representing the party.

Two, it specifically prevents making moral/ethical/common sense valuations between parties and politicians.

Three, and this is important, it absolves the voter and individual responsibility in favor of blaming politicians or the system.

How many people come in like, "Wow, both sides suck. But I only care about these two issues!" It's always someone from the right. Always. When that's the case and nothing else matters you've by definition lost the moral high ground.

This is why it's largely projection and hypocrisy from the right. If an entire party's system is set up to for the people not to hold politicians accountable for anything for fear of losing to the other side or fear of losing power, ultimately, is that the politician's fault or the people's fault for putting up with it?

I do apologize if this makes some folks cry on a Sunday morning.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

'Both sides' is a core tenet belief of the right today. We see it in page after page of these political threads. It's always the right using it as a crutch. It's always in bad faith.

One, it prevents the right from holding themselves accountable, which leads to even further moral decay and even worse politicians representing the party.

Two, it specifically prevents making moral/ethical/common sense valuations between parties and politicians.

Three, and this is important, it absolves the voter and individual responsibility in favor of blaming politicians or the system.

How many people come in like, "Wow, both sides suck. But I only care about these two issues!" It's always someone from the right. Always. When that's the case and nothing else matters you've by definition lost the moral high ground.

This is why it's largely projection and hypocrisy from the right. If an entire party's system is set up to for the people not to hold politicians accountable for anything for fear of losing to the other side or fear of losing power, ultimately, is that the politician's fault or the people's fault for putting up with it?

I do apologize if this makes some folks cry on a Sunday morning.

Well said! And thank you for putting it into perspective. That's very much why I've 3rd party my whole life. Growing up with a conservative family I was made to believe to only vote Republican and the other side was just as bad. We home politicians accountable by voting, not just by not voting for them but also for voting for someone who can actually defeat/oust them.

 

[drayer54]

Amateurs. Everyone knows the best time to schedule a vasectomy is the first weekend of march madness.

Truth. The waitlist was insane. Can’t imagine enjoying the rest of the commie convention with ice packs on my nuts.

 

[Sea Turtle]

'Both sides' is a core tenet belief of the right today. We see it in page after page of these political threads. It's always the right using it as a crutch. It's always in bad faith.

One, it prevents the right from holding themselves accountable, which leads to even further moral decay and even worse politicians representing the party.

Two, it specifically prevents making moral/ethical/common sense valuations between parties and politicians.

Three, and this is important, it absolves the voter and individual responsibility in favor of blaming politicians or the system.

How many people come in like, "Wow, both sides suck. But I only care about these two issues!" It's always someone from the right. Always. When that's the case and nothing else matters you've by definition lost the moral high ground.

This is why it's largely projection and hypocrisy from the right. If an entire party's system is set up to for the people not to hold politicians accountable for anything for fear of losing to the other side or fear of losing power, ultimately, is that the politician's fault or the people's fault for putting up with it?

I do apologize if this makes some folks cry on a Sunday morning.

You make a couple of points. Let me piggyback on that and tell you a story.

I was fishing off of a bridge once with a friend and had to take a leak. So did he. We just did it from the bridge since no one else was around.

He looks at me, grins and says 'this water is cold'. I grin back and say 'and deep'.

 

[drayer54]

I wonder if Mark “abortion is murder but yeah we had an abortion” Robinson is going to turn himself in for murder?

I had a half hour with him and his wife to chat once. Very nice guy, well spoken but going to be a lightning rod. He assembled furniture before going viral. He was passionate and smart, but not Gov smart. I’m blown away he made it as far as he did.

 

[sixstar]

You make a couple of points. Let me piggyback on that and tell you a story.

I was fishing off of a bridge once with a friend and had to take a leak. So did he. We just did it from the bridge since no one else was around.

He looks at me, grins and says 'this water is cold'. I grin back and say 'and deep'.

I've peed on that same bridge. The water isn't that deep.

 

[drayer54]

This is really fucking hilarious, Jesus Christ DNC

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

All people selfish and all politicians suck, but one party is blatantly obvious about only lining their pockets and the pockets of their donors. And there's nothing wrong with calling them out for that, at least the Democrats aren't making women carry their rapists child to term, and they at least pretend to give a shit.

If all people are selifsh and politicians suck, why would you vote in a way that would give them more power and control over your life?

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Lol....yeah the tax reform act of 1986 had nothing to do with it.

you can lol all you want. the feds forcing banks to give mortgages to people who can't afford them isn't de-regulation. It's over regulation, all on the self righteous pedestal of equality.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

If all people are selifsh and politicians suck, why would you vote in a way that would give them more power and control over your life?

Well I'm not, the Republican party is the party that has more policy plans that directly takes power and control of my life out my hands.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Well I'm not, the Republican party is the party that has more policy plans that directly takes power and control of my life out my hands.

Care to elaborate?

 

[TorontoGold]

you can lol all you want. the feds forcing banks to give mortgages to people who can't afford them isn't de-regulation. It's over regulation, all on the self righteous pedestal of equality.

I had to really search high and low for this hilarious narrative...and low and behold....Thomas Sowell! Oh my is that ever perfect. Those darn minorities! lol.

When you've become so enamored with making everything about race you start pushing "duhhh DEI caused the recession" when it's pretty settled fact of what lead to it's cause. Boy, next we'll be hearing about how credit card companies are extremely risk adverse and it was only the feds that made them have predatory lending.