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The "in context" portion should be considered. That was the grain of salt.

James Harden really seems like a comp nobody wants to make. I get it, though.

It's still apt to judge individual greatness by team championships won, however. In that sense, the way people consume the game is not at all different.
 

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Celtics roll game 1 in Finals. Porzingis made a massive difference. Only 1 game but Boston has to be thrilled with the start. Didn't expect a blowout.
 

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Celtics roll game 1 in Finals. Porzingis made a massive difference. Only 1 game but Boston has to be thrilled with the start. Didn't expect a blowout.
Celtics defense was just dominant, and took away the Mavs passing game. Dallas had five assists in the first three quarters.
Luka got his points, but he can't beat Boston alone; Kyrie didn't have a great night but even if he shoots better, the two of them aren't going to beat Boston four out of six times either.
 

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Dallas is in trouble. They got off to a good start and still lost convincingly tonight. Boston clearly looks quicker, more athletic, and playing better defense. I was also impressed with Celtics' rebounding also. Definitely look like the better overall team. Not over yet but Dallas has a very large hole to get out of currently.
 

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I hate to admit it but I still silently root for the Celts because:

My cousin was the original Sixth Man... Frank Ramsey

They were the Notre Dame of the NBA.

They were in the East so the Bulls never played them when it mattered in the 70's.

Then Hondo, Cowens, JoJo & Tiny cemented them as my back up team until...

Larry Joe showed up and the Celts became the only non Chicago team that I rooted for as my team - until Larry was done and the Bulls arrived in the early 90's.
 

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I hate to admit it but I still silently root for the Celts because:

My cousin was the original Sixth Man... Frank Ramsey

They were the Notre Dame of the NBA.

They were in the East so the Bulls never played them when it mattered in the 70's.

Then Hondo, Cowens, JoJo & Tiny cemented them as my back up team until...

Larry Joe showed up and the Celts became the only non Chicago team that I rooted for as my team - until Larry was done and the Bulls arrived in the early 90's.
They should have 0 excuses to not win it all this year. They are already up 2-0 and Kyrie cannot beat them apparently going 0-12 in the last 12 games. Just seems like Boston has more dudes overall that can step up. Holiday tonight whereas Dallas is all Irving/Luka. Celtics defense creating problems for Boston in these first 2.
 

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They should have 0 excuses to not win it all this year. They are already up 2-0 and Kyrie cannot beat them apparently going 0-12 in the last 12 games. Just seems like Boston has more dudes overall that can step up. Holiday tonight whereas Dallas is all Irving/Luka. Celtics defense creating problems for Boston in these first 2.
Obviously things can change on a dime in a series like this but it’d be very surprised if Dallas comes back. The Celtics are so much deeper and are a much better defensive team. Neither Luka or Kyrie are very good defensively and they are having to work hard to get their points. Nobody outside of them is doing anything. Makes me wonder how they got out of the West this year.
 

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Dallas will need a massive wakeup call to bounce back. I see the Celtics taking at least one in Dallas.
 

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I hate to admit it but I still silently root for the Celts because:

My cousin was the original Sixth Man... Frank Ramsey

They were the Notre Dame of the NBA.

They were in the East so the Bulls never played them when it mattered in the 70's.

Then Hondo, Cowens, JoJo & Tiny cemented them as my back up team until...

Larry Joe showed up and the Celts became the only non Chicago team that I rooted for as my team - until Larry was done and the Bulls arrived in the early 90's.
You can root for the Celtics loudly if you want. It's OK. Lots of us do. ;)
 

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Obviously things can change on a dime in a series like this but it’d be very surprised if Dallas comes back. The Celtics are so much deeper and are a much better defensive team. Neither Luka or Kyrie are very good defensively and they are having to work hard to get their points. Nobody outside of them is doing anything. Makes me wonder how they got out of the West this year.
The OKC-Dallas series was much closer than the 4-2 margin Dallas won by. Irving and Luka just closed them out and Dallas size took over. Anthony Edwards went cold for Minny in their series against Dallas ending Minny's run. They were just better than the Clippers in their series as they're always battling injuries. Irving must get going quickly if this is going to be a series.
 

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This seems inevitable. It's a matter of how many games it takes.
Five, feels like. Beyond Doncic and Irving just going off, Dallas' best hope is that Porzingis - who looked like he tweaked his knee falling awkwardly last night with about five minutes to go - is hurt again. The Celtics defense is too good.
 

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Looks like Hurley turned down the Lakers. Reported $70M for six years. Don't blame him. Last thing he wants to deal with is James wanting to call the shots.
 

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Looks like Hurley turned down the Lakers. Reported $70M for six years. Don't blame him. Last thing he wants to deal with is James wanting to call the shots.
How much longer is LeBron going to be around? Man is getting old!
 

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How much longer is LeBron going to be around? Man is getting old!
I don't know, but he's working hard to figure out a way for him to play with his son while most reports show he may not even be good enough to play in the league. That probably plays a part in it.
 

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I don't know, but he's working hard to figure out a way for him to play with his son while most reports show he may not even be good enough to play in the league. That probably plays a part in it.

This feels like one of those things that people keep saying because everyone loses their minds when it comes to LeBron. First he said it would be cool if that happened. Then a few years ago he said that he wants to go play wherever Bronny ends up in his last season to experience playing with his son. Then last year he said that if Bronny makes it in the NBA, it would be great to get the chance to play with him or play defense against him. He mentioned that Bronny plays PG so he couldn't match up all game but he'd love the chance to call a defensive switch and match up defensively on his son.

NBA internet discourse has turned that into him holding the Lakers hostage and driving away coaches because he's going to sink the Lakers org if they don't take his son in the 1st.

I'd say the most likely reason Hurley turned down the Lakers is that he likes where he's at and was only going to leave UConn for a godfather offer, and the Lakers' offer didn't come close to that. Hell, Kentucky offered more money. Is Jeannie Buss poor or something?
 

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This feels like one of those things that people keep saying because everyone loses their minds when it comes to LeBron. First he said it would be cool if that happened. Then a few years ago he said that he wants to go play wherever Bronny ends up in his last season to experience playing with his son. Then last year he said that if Bronny makes it in the NBA, it would be great to get the chance to play with him or play defense against him. He mentioned that Bronny plays PG so he couldn't match up all game but he'd love the chance to call a defensive switch and match up defensively on his son.

NBA internet discourse has turned that into him holding the Lakers hostage and driving away coaches because he's going to sink the Lakers org if they don't take his son in the 1st.

I'd say the most likely reason Hurley turned down the Lakers is that he likes where he's at and was only going to leave UConn for a godfather offer, and the Lakers' offer didn't come close to that. Hell, Kentucky offered more money. Is Jeannie Buss poor or something?
I'm only mentioning comments I've heard on the national sports talk shows. Leaving Bronny out of the discussion, it's not short sighted to think Hurley doesn't want James looking over is shoulder. And, as you say, it could be that he is very happy at UConn.
 

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Looks like Hurley turned down the Lakers. Reported $70M for six years. Don't blame him. Last thing he wants to deal with is James wanting to call the shots.
Agreed. Thought it was an odd fit at the time and was surprised Hurley was entertaining it. He does not strike me as a Lakers guy. Lakers move to Plan B now lol.
 

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I'm only mentioning comments I've heard on the national sports talk shows. Leaving Bronny out of the discussion, it's not short sighted to think Hurley doesn't want James looking over is shoulder. And, as you say, it could be that he is very happy at UConn.

I'm talking about the discourse in general, not you in particular.

Exhibit A:

You’d have to be that coach required to play Bronny, who really hasn’t earned a spot in the NBA and is mediocre at best. I would opt out also.
 

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You’d have to be that coach required to play Bronny, who really hasn’t earned a spot in the NBA and is mediocre at best. I would opt out also.
The stress factor and expectations are very high with the Lakers job. Add in the fact that it is arguably the most popular and glamorous team in the league no way I want this job. Hurley just rejected 70 million. Enough said.
 

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The stress factor and expectations are very high with the Lakers job. Add in the fact that it is arguably the most popular and glamorous team in the league no way I want this job. Hurley just rejected 70 million. Enough said.
Come on now… there’s maybe 10 guys probably closer to 5 guys on the planet that don’t want the Lakers job.
 

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Come on now… there’s maybe 10 guys probably closer to 5 guys on the planet that don’t want the Lakers job.
I said I did not want the job. Maybe other coaches would but they clearly cannot get the coach they wanted. If the job is so great, then why did Hurley say no? He makes around 5 million yearly at UConn. Lakers offered nearly 12 million a year. That is an insane amount of money to reject. The job is cutthroat and extremely high maintenance dealing with LA, Lebron, Magic and all the Laker greats. Hurley's rejection speaks very loudly about the job.
 

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I said I did not want the job. Maybe other coaches would but they clearly cannot get the coach they wanted. If the job is so great, then why did Hurley say no? He makes around 5 million yearly at UConn. Lakers offered nearly 12 million a year. That is an insane amount of money to reject. The job is cutthroat and extremely high maintenance dealing with LA, Lebron, Magic and all the Laker greats. Hurley's rejection speaks very loudly about the job.
Yes you do. It’s $10M+ a year gig and it’s the Lakers. If you were a basketball coach there’s a handful of situations in history that Would allow you to pass. Like if ur name was The Wizard, The General, Coach K or Danny Hurley.
 

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Yes you do. It’s $10M+ a year gig and it’s the Lakers. If you were a basketball coach there’s a handful of situations in history that Would allow you to pass. Like if ur name was The Wizard, The General, Coach K or Danny Hurley.
You definitely want the job lol. Just keep providing the great ND and recruiting info here if you get it. Seriously, it will be interesting to see who they get. It is a unique, high profile job. Man must have stones to take it I will admit.
 

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I said I did not want the job. Maybe other coaches would but they clearly cannot get the coach they wanted. If the job is so great, then why did Hurley say no? He makes around 5 million yearly at UConn. Lakers offered nearly 12 million a year. That is an insane amount of money to reject. The job is cutthroat and extremely high maintenance dealing with LA, Lebron, Magic and all the Laker greats. Hurley's rejection speaks very loudly about the job.

It's really not an insane amount of money to reject if you're Hurley. Monty Williams is currently making 13 million per year to coach the Detroit Pistons. Hurley already rejected 11+ million per year for 5 years with Kentucky. Hurley either genuinely doesn't want to go anywhere because he's fulfilled at UConn or is betting that he can get a true Godfather offer somewhere after next year.
 
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