'25 IN DE Damien Shanklin (LSU Verbal)

[PutuporShutup]

It makes absolutely no sense that ND has been heavily recruiting him for a year and ND is the perceived leader--and then suddenly in April of his junior year an incurable issue with his transcript appears out of nowhere and ND is completely done with him.

ND has bent over backwards to be upfront and inform recruits what needs to happen.

I have no clue what happened here, but more times than not, the player/recruit doesn't do what they needed to do for whatever reason.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

It makes absolutely no sense that ND has been heavily recruiting him for a year and ND is the perceived leader--and then suddenly in April of his junior year an incurable issue with his transcript appears out of nowhere and ND is completely done with him.

This actually makes, the most sense. ND's MO is to reach out to kids while young enough to tell them what they need to do to get in. They told Shanklin then what he needed to do. Then they found out recently he did not meet that. And now they move on. Very straight forward.

The opposite of Tae Johnson. ND told Tae what he had to do to get in, and he put his head down and did it.

 

[CanadalovesND]

If his transcripts are already iffy, and the staff didn't get a positive update with his latest grades, they could feel that they may be putting too much resources and time into someone that isn't going to get passed admissions. Doesn't help either that Shanklin isn't planning to narrow his recruitment, and in fact, wants to explore more options.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

This actually makes, the most sense. ND's MO is to reach out to kids while young enough to tell them what they need to do to get in. They told Shanklin then what he needed to do. Then they found out recently he did not meet that. And now they move on. Very straight forward.

The opposite of Tae Johnson. ND told Tae what he had to do to get in, and he put his head down and did it.

This is what happened with Stepp. They told him exactly what to do.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

This is what happened with Stepp. They told him exactly what to do.

Stepp...you had to bring him up.
Underwhelming career. But of course he had to smack ND once lol

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Stepp...you had to bring him up.
Underwhelming career. But of course he had to smack ND once lol

Remember when Zach Fraser led UConn to a win in Notre Dame stadium? Good times.

 

[Irish#1]

This is what happened with Stepp. They told him exactly what to do.

Which was always puzzling as Cathedral HS is a high academics school.

 

[dublinirish]

Stepp...you had to bring him up.
Underwhelming career. But of course he had to smack ND once lol

saw he had a pro day at WKU last week, had no idea he was still playing football

 

[Katzenboyer]

It makes absolutely no sense that ND has been heavily recruiting him for a year and ND is the perceived leader--and then suddenly in April of his junior year an incurable issue with his transcript appears out of nowhere and ND is completely done with him.

It does when you look at the calendar.

First step is evaluation/offer. Next step in that process is getting the academic credentials. That's where we are now - kids are getting transcripts to schools recruiting them, and Shanklin's came in and ND saw it wasn't viable.

Don't know if it's GPA, coursework, or a combination of the two, but ND looked at what the transcript said and most likely realized the kid wasn't going to get in.

 

[Blazers46]

From what I'm hearing, he's not going to taking a foreign


It does when you look at the calendar.

First step is evaluation/offer. Next step in that process is getting the academic credentials. That's where we are now - kids are getting transcripts to schools recruiting them, and Shanklin's came in and ND saw it wasn't viable.

Don't know if it's GPA, coursework, or a combination of the two, but ND looked at what the transcript said and most likely realized the kid wasn't going to get in.

Foreign classes were a breeze in HS. I’m surprised people are resistant to taking them.

 

[NDMatt91]

I thought Kelly got Admissions to get rid of the foreign language requirement? Regardless, it was a stupid requirement to begin with. IIRC, that cost us Byron Marshall who ended up at Oregon and was a stud. Marshall was a terrific student and had an offer from Stanford but ND couldn't take him because of the foreign language requirement.

 

[GowerND11]

saw he had a pro day at WKU last week, had no idea he was still playing football

Played for 6 YEARS!

 

[T-Boone]

Do transfers have the foreign language requirement?

 

[Blazers46]

Foreign language was by far my hardest class, barely passed. It was the only class I really struggled in.

Yeah I guess it’s a mixed bag depending on language taken and learning styles. Some of the smartest people I have ever known struggled and some of the dumbest excelled somehow.

To be fair I struggled with English, lol.

 

[PolishDomer]

Do transfers have the foreign language requirement?

If they are from the South, then yes... lol

 

[jason_h537]

I thought Kelly got Admissions to get rid of the foreign language requirement? Regardless, it was a stupid requirement to begin with. IIRC, that cost us Byron Marshall who ended up at Oregon and was a stud. Marshall was a terrific student and had an offer from Stanford but ND couldn't take him because of the foreign language requirement.

It did not cost us Byron Marshall. Notre Dame told him he needed to take a class to get into ND and he refused. If he wanted to go to Notre Dame he would have taken that class. Every player is told what they need to do to get into Notre Dame and every kid that signs did what was needed. We saw this play out last year with Tae Johnson.

We don't know what is preventing Shanklin or Lange from joining this class but considering how long they have been recruited it is safe to assume the staff let both kids know what was needed to get into Notre Dame and as of now they have chosen to not do it. That is the choice they made. This has nothing to do with relaxed admissions and everything to do with the kids making a decision.

I would love for Shanklin to be in this class but it sounds like he chose not to be.

 

[NDMatt91]

It did not cost us Byron Marshall. Notre Dame told him he needed to take a class to get into ND and he refused. If he wanted to go to Notre Dame he would have taken that class. Every player is told what they need to do to get into Notre Dame and every kid that signs did what was needed. We saw this play out last year with Tae Johnson.

That's still stupid, though. If a player is able to get through admissions at Stanford then there should be no issue with them getting through admissions at ND.

 

[jason_h537]

That's still stupid, though. If a player is able to get through admissions at Stanford then there should be no issue with them getting through admissions at ND.

And who is the HS kid that passed admissions to Stanford and couldn't get into ND? Was it Bryon Marshall? He went to Oregon. Is it Shanklin? Because Stanford does not admit players this early.

If a high school Spanish class is preventing you from going to Notre Dame than you never wanted to really go to Notre Dame.

 

[stlnd01]

That's still stupid, though. If a player is able to get through admissions at Stanford then there should be no issue with them getting through admissions at ND.

Notre Dame requires - I believe - two semesters of foreign language as an admissions requirement for all students. Stanford does not.

I get how this can be a barrier for recruits we’re not in on until their senior year of high school (like the safety commit last year who wound up at Michigan). But with most of them there is plenty of lead time to line up a couple of basic high school Spanish classes. If a kid doesn’t care/want to, at some level that’s their decision.

 

[T-Boone]

It would be good if this wasn’t a barrier for ND unless there is some awesome reason for it.

Do you have to study a language when at ND?

 

[CanadalovesND]

It would be good if this wasn’t a barrier for ND unless there is some awesome reason for it.

Do you have to study a language when at ND?

It would be good if this wasn’t a barrier for ND unless there is some awesome reason for it.

Do you have to study a language when at ND?

Some ten or so years ago, you did. I vividly remember a "day in the life" video on NDs sports YouTube page featuring Cierre Wood, where he was taking Portuguese because it was required for ND student athletes (to take a language course)



Starts around 1:45 mark

 

[ab2cmiller]

Both the College of Arts and Letters and the College of Science require their undergraduate students to take some foreign language courses during their time at Notre Dame. Other colleges and institutes do not require foreign language courses, but they are highly recommended for a well-rounded and diverse college portfolio.

Foreign Language Requirement

eastasian.nd.edu

Cierre Wood was majoring in Film, Television and Theater in the College of Arts and Letters

 

[stlnd01]

It would be good if this wasn’t a barrier for ND unless there is some awesome reason for it.

Do you have to study a language when at ND?

Why require anything, really? Who needs math? Or English! History is all bullshit right?

 

[rtrn2glory]

So what exactly is the foreign language requirement for incoming freshmen?

 

[allenm5333]

So what exactly is the foreign language requirement for incoming freshmen?

Must make a celibacy vow and read the Bible in another language. According to rival coaches

 

[stlnd01]

So what exactly is the foreign language requirement for incoming freshmen?

This here says two "units" of a foreign language that is offered at Notre Dame. A unit = a year, though I wonder if one can do some of that over the summer or something.

FAQs

admissions.nd.edu

 

[Irish du Nord]

It would be good if this wasn’t a barrier for ND unless there is some awesome reason for it.

Do you have to study a language when at ND?

Yes. You have to take at least on semester in the Colleges of Science and Arts and Letters for sure. Not sure on engineering or Mendoza. Architecture has to take Italian

 

[Irish du Nord]

This here says two "units" of a foreign language that is offered at Notre Dame. A unit = a year, though I wonder if one can do some of that over the summer or something.

FAQs

admissions.nd.edu

You can test out of one of the semesters but you have to take at least one foreign language class

 

[IrishSpartan]

Kind of crazy that you single out a number one target and then get hit with enrollment issues. When are we going to get to the point when a team is created from the enrollment department exclusively to evaluate highschool recruits for all sports. These people should be involved from the beginning.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Kind of crazy that you single out a number one target and then get hit with enrollment issues. When are we going to get to the point when a team is created from the enrollment department exclusively to evaluate highschool recruits for all sports. These people should be involved from the beginning.

There is no reason to believe that admissions wasn't involved early on. The assumption (which has been stated several times already) was that Shanklin was a borderline admission possibility. He was told what he needed to do to gain admission. He apparently didn't accomplish the things that he needed to do.