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[Jiggafini19Deux]

He also has a losing record at BC and was one bad season away from getting fired. Perhaps he sees one coming in 2024.

6-5 in 2020
6-6
3-9
7-6 in 2023 and won his first bowl.

I don't know what the expectations of his superiors were at BC, but if he would have gotten fired, there would have to be some kind of buyout right?

I'm guessing he had some 5th and 6th year guys this past season that got them to bowl eligibility and a bowl win, but this guy has done a rather solid job at BC. Not great, but solid. Now you have college football overall being a shit show, the ACC perhaps the next conference being on the brink of losing members and or going bye bye and Hafley squeezing a 7-6 season out of a program that hadn't been to a bowl game since 2019 and hadn't won one since 2016.

Could be a combination of many things, but in the end, you're going to the NFL to take over a young defense for a franchise that likely found it's third consecutive franchise QB and getting out of the college game. The opportunity presented itself and he bailed. He won't be the last.

 

[fightingirish26]

Wouldn't be the first time that a guy was hired as a coordinator and then jumped to a different job. Kliff Kingsbury was USC's offensive coordinator for a month before taking the Arizona Cardinals job.

Was more pointing out that he's already gone back to the college game

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Was more pointing out that he's already gone back to the college game

Twice.

O'Brien reportedly talked with BC the last time the job opened and they hired Hafley. He's gotten a niche being with Belichick or OC'ing places like Bama and Ohio State to this point. I don't know what to make of the guy.

BC could promote Rob Chudzinski from within and be done.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

100% agreed. I think conference realignment also has to be factored into this too, especially with Boston College being in the ACC, which could be the next one to see a major shift.

It is important to note in this case that Hafley coached in the NFL prior to being at Ohio State and Boston College. At 44 years old you have to wonder if this is going to be it for him. Just depends on which way the wind and paycheck blows. College or NFL, these guys see them as nothing more than jobs. Their devotion isn't anywhere near that of the fans.

Every situation is different and we don't know his salary at Green Bay, but there's a really good chance he took a pay cut to get the hell out of college ball. Think about guys like David Shaw, Clark Lea, whoever has to coach Duke/ Northwestern.

This is just me, but I'd take $3m in the NFL over $4m in college because in the NFL I get to spend half the year with my family, friends, etc. Two weekends ago assistant coaches at ND spent two days dressed like leprechauns wooing 16 year old kids to a college. And January in college ball is easy compared to the shitshow that is December.

Kalen DeBoer isn't leaving $8m at Bama for an OC gig in the NFL, but I think you get the point.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Every situation is different and we don't know his salary at Green Bay, but there's a really good chance he took a pay cut to get the hell out of college ball. Think about guys like David Shaw, Clark Lea, whoever has to coach Duke/ Northwestern.

This is just me, but I'd take $3m in the NFL over $4m in college because in the NFL I get to spend half the year with my family, friends, etc. Two weekends ago assistant coaches at ND spent two days dressed like leprechauns wooing 16 year old kids to a college. And January in college ball is easy compared to the shitshow that is December.

Kalen DeBoer isn't leaving $8m at Bama for an OC gig in the NFL, but I think you get the point.

That's what "sources" are saying and I believe it, nor do I blame the guy. We've been talking about this for well over a year now. It shouldn't come as any surprise that guys are starting to take NFL opportunities when presented to them. If you don't like recruiting and just want to coach ball, don't employ yourself in college. It's simple.

You'd assume he's taking a pay cut, but he's about to go from one of the more expensive places to live (Boston) to Green Bay, Wisconsin and he's still likely a millionaire.

This isn't Ryan Day taking an OC job in the NFL, but it is eye opening regardless.

 

[notredomer23]

What and Who Boston College Needs to Look For in their Head Coaching Search

Boston College is in need of a coach, this is what they should be looking for....

247sports.com

BC writer thinks either Bill O'Brien or Jason Candle

 

[irish2104]

Bill O Brien would be wild.. had to have Julian Sayin then he bolts for a head coach job.. love it

 

[ColinKSU]

Gonna rule seeing Alabama go back to being a place no one wants to be at without Saban.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

What and Who Boston College Needs to Look For in their Head Coaching Search

Boston College is in need of a coach, this is what they should be looking for....

247sports.com

BC writer thinks either Bill O'Brien or Jason Candle

Jason Candle would be fascinating. His entire coaching career has taken place in the state of Ohio. He's probably had Toledo teams that could have beaten Boston College in just about every year he's been there.

20-7 in his first two years at Toledo. Normally the way it goes, you bounce. He's still there.

I want to see what he can do at the P4 level, either as an OC or HC.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Candle you would think would be a fit. He's recruited very well for being at a small school. I think being able to sell Boston would be easy for him

 

[dublinirish]

 

[notredomer23]

The carousel really doesn't stop turning. The most hilarious outcome would definitely be Bill O'Brien leaves OSU to be the OC again at Alabama. Tough luck, Mr. Sayin.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Candle you would think would be a fit. He's recruited very well for being at a small school. I think being able to sell Boston would be easy for him

How do you see Candle as a fit at Boston College?

Has he recruited well at Toledo because he's lived in Ohio his entire life? Born and raised, played and coached at Mt. Union, then coached at Toledo. Someone who has spent his entire life in Ohio going to Boston College for his first P4 job isn't totally crazy, but is it a fit?

I'm saying this part ND fan and part objectively, but what is there to sell about Boston College Football? A Big East Championship and the last ACC Division they won was in 2008.

 

[stlnd01]

How do you see Candle as a fit at Boston College?

Has he recruited well at Toledo because he's lived in Ohio his entire life? Born and raised, played and coached at Mt. Union, then coached at Toledo. Someone who has spent his entire life in Ohio going to Boston College for his first P4 job isn't totally crazy, but is it a fit?

I'm saying this part ND fan and part objectively, but what is there to sell about Boston College Football? A Big East Championship and the last ACC Division they won was in 2008.

The academics is about it.

They’re mid at best in the ACC. Aside from linemen and a few RBs they don’t produce much NFL talent (Zay Flowers was like the first WR they’ve had drafted ever). And while I live in and love Boston, it can be, um, an acquired taste for some. (Also their stadium sucks and their campus is kinda meh).

They need to build like Stanford and Northwestern have when they’ve been good, focus on defense and line play and developing guys over years. The chance to go to real school will appeal to some, as it does for us, but that approach gets harder all the time. Hafley was kind of an ideal coach for them, and…

 

[rtrn2glory]

How do you see Candle as a fit at Boston College?

Has he recruited well at Toledo because he's lived in Ohio his entire life? Born and raised, played and coached at Mt. Union, then coached at Toledo. Someone who has spent his entire life in Ohio going to Boston College for his first P4 job isn't totally crazy, but is it a fit?

I'm saying this part ND fan and part objectively, but what is there to sell about Boston College Football? A Big East Championship and the last ACC Division they won was in 2008.

He's routinely recruited well in Florida. I think he's been waiting for the right job to come along and I think this could be it. The ACC isn't a power house conference by any stretch and he can step in there and parlay that into a bigger and more desirable job. He won't land a big job coming straight from Toledo

 

[rtrn2glory]

Also he could sneak a decent 8-4 9-3 year and pull something off like James Franklin.. Candle has recruited the Midwest and Southeast well and I just think he can do the same in Boston

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

He's routinely recruited well in Florida. I think he's been waiting for the right job to come along and I think this could be it. The ACC isn't a power house conference by any stretch and he can step in there and parlay that into a bigger and more desirable job. He won't land a big job coming straight from Toledo

Toledo had 13 guys on their roster from Florida. Boston College had 8. It's THE state for Division I talent, per capita, for high school football recruits. I don't know how his recruiting in Florida at Toledo makes him a fit for Boston College. I do think he's probably overdue for a P4 job, be it BC, the ACC or somewhere else. His background is interesting, though. You'd have thought that maybe Ryan Day would've hit up Candle for the Ohio State OC job.

Wouldn't you think a better fit would be a move to a Midwest P4 school like Campbell before him? Michigan State, Illinois, Indiana and Purdue all have newly hired head coaches.

I just find it very odd that he's been at Toledo as long as he's been.

 

[GoldenAura]

 

[calvegas04]

So weird, would be a big downgrade. Not sure why he would want to entertain that other than not want to deal with all the travel in the new B10.

 

[Pete]

Kliff Kingsbury hired by the Raiders as their OC

 

[Pete]

So weird, would be a big downgrade. Not sure why he would want to entertain that other than not want to deal with all the travel in the new B10.

Travel, recruiting, NIL, and transfer portal. All would suck imo.

 

[calvegas04]

Travel, recruiting, NIL, and transfer portal. All would suck imo.

Also 2 or 3 million less a year

 

[ulukinatme]

Kliff Kingsbury hired by the Raiders as their OC

Do we like that for Mayer? Good offensive mind, but I can't remember if he uses his TEs.

 

[Irish#1]

So weird, would be a big downgrade. Not sure why he would want to entertain that other than not want to deal with all the travel in the new B10.

At his age, being the HC may not be that important anymore.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Travel, recruiting, NIL, and transfer portal. All would suck imo.

Right. The HC of Boston College just took a DC job in the NFL. Chip Kelly going to the Commanders to be an OC isn't splitting atoms. He just lost his DC to the rival school across town and Dante Moore to a conference rival. He may very well have a "Fuck this" mindset about college football that so many people seem to have at the moment.

We've got threads here going on about how college football is at "the end of an era" and it's like the "wild west". There's not a lot of dots to connect here. There is going to be plenty of low hanging fruit for NFL teams to pick from off of college coaching trees.

Chip Kelly just turned 60. He has to have a net worth of, what, $20M? He's cashed in at Oregon, the Eagles, Niners and now UCLA. Washington D.C. is closer to New Hampshire where he's from and where he still keeps a group of close knit friends. The guy is super private and weird to begin with. I'd be willing to bet that he could absolutely care less about taking a pay cut.

 

[Irish#1]

From The Athletic on Belichick. Not surprised by this.

• Surprisingly, the Falcons were apparently Belichick’s only real suitor. While owner Arthur Blank seemed to jell with Belichick, the coach’s relationship with other front office members was “frosty.”
  
  
• Which leads to a bigger point: Belichick resisted giving up the complete control over football operations he’d enjoyed during his Patriots tenure. That rightly scared some teams away — just look at the Pats’ weird personnel moves over the last few seasons. Not great!
  
  
• There is a perceived stubbornness about Belichick in league circles.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

• There is a perceived stubbornness about Belichick in league circles.

Really? Tell me more.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

From The Athletic on Belichick. Not surprised by this.

• Surprisingly, the Falcons were apparently Belichick’s only real suitor. While owner Arthur Blank seemed to jell with Belichick, the coach’s relationship with other front office members was “frosty.”
  
  
• Which leads to a bigger point: Belichick resisted giving up the complete control over football operations he’d enjoyed during his Patriots tenure. That rightly scared some teams away — just look at the Pats’ weird personnel moves over the last few seasons. Not great!
  
  
• There is a perceived stubbornness about Belichick in league circles.

Perceived Stubbornness? No need to use the word Perceived. His personnel decisions over the past number of years is what sank both him and the Pats. N’Keal Harry drafted in the 1st when both DK Metcalf and Deebo Samuel were both still on the board? Woof.

 

[drayer54]

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[stlnd01]

Right. The HC of Boston College just took a DC job in the NFL. Chip Kelly going to the Commanders to be an OC isn't splitting atoms. He just lost his DC to the rival school across town and Dante Moore to a conference rival. He may very well have a "Fuck this" mindset about college football that so many people seem to have at the moment.

We've got threads here going on about how college football is at "the end of an era" and it's like the "wild west". There's not a lot of dots to connect here. There is going to be plenty of low hanging fruit for NFL teams to pick from off of college coaching trees.

Chip Kelly just turned 60. He has to have a net worth of, what, $20M? He's cashed in at Oregon, the Eagles, Niners and now UCLA. Washington D.C. is closer to New Hampshire where he's from and where he still keeps a group of close knit friends. The guy is super private and weird to begin with. I'd be willing to bet that he could absolutely care less about taking a pay cut.

There was also widespread talk that Kelly was going to be canned at the end of the season (before he lost his DC and quarterback). Probably got a one-year lifeline, but could totally see him saying "fuck this" and going somewhere he feels wanted. At a certain point it's not really about the money anymore.