ND- OSU post game thread

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Ohio State has a tough football team. that runs jet sweeps on fourth down and runs directly at an invisible 11th player only to still barely get into the end zone.

I can't wait to hear Ryan Day's post game comments after Penn State and Michigan.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

We are all likely tired of the Lou Holtz angle. My takeaway was the irony in Herbstreit always defending his favorite octogenarian when he says something silly (see Ryan Leaf beef after the P12 jab) but takes issue w/ another octogenarian (who isn’t employed by a CFB network) for predicting his favorite team wins a game.

 

[Luckylucci]

I heard a post game reporter ask why the 10-men on the field in the red zone keeps happening and referenced the TSU game. I'm not sure I realized that happened...? If so, holy shit...three times this year through 5 games? That is endemic and not just a mistake or oversight. That is blatant negligence.

Unrelated, but I've been struggling with Freeman's talk of being aggressive and how that isn't aligning to what Golden and Parker (at times) are doing in the game. I don't want to harp too much on Parker, because I think he generally called a good game (I just happen to think he should've ran the ball with Estime on the last series, but I digress). With Golden, however, playing soft on 3 and 19 when you are only up 4 points is the exact opposite of being aggressive. They need to sort their identity out and get on the same page.

I had no idea that happened. If true, it adds another layer of failure to this mess.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

There should be a quality control coach, analyst, GA or intern who does this from the box on every down. The person probably isn't even fucking paid by most programs. Not that difficult.

Find someone who can see down on the field and can count to 11, tell this person they have one job and get to it. Christ Almighty.

 

[IRISHMAN]

I heard a post game reporter ask why the 10-men on the field in the red zone keeps happening and referenced the TSU game. I'm not sure I realized that happened...? If so, holy shit...three times this year through 5 games? That is endemic and not just a mistake or oversight. That is blatant negligence.

Unrelated, but I've been struggling with Freeman's talk of being aggressive and how that isn't aligning to what Golden and Parker (at times) are doing in the game. I don't want to harp too much on Parker, because I think he generally called a good game (I just happen to think he should've ran the ball with Estime on the last series, but I digress). With Golden, however, playing soft on 3 and 19 when you are only up 4 points is the exact opposite of being aggressive. They need to sort their identity out and get on the same page.

this is just part of the growing pains of having HC learning on the job.

 

[PutuporShutup]

this is just part of the growing pains of having HC learning on the job.

There's learning on the job when it comes to quick decisions/strategy/etc etc. This is not that, this is process, structure, accountability, and people doing their frichan job. If we had 10 on the field in the red zone vs TSU as well, man, someone or something needs to change significantly.

Edit- I quickly looked at their red zone possessions vs TSU and we had 11 on the field for each one.

 

[notredomer23]

I still can't believe ND lost to these bozos. Would have been a program trajectory changing win. Still stuck in the mud until at least USC.

 

[Katzenboyer]

There's learning on the job when it comes to quick decisions/strategy/etc etc. This is not that, this is process, structure, accountability, and people doing their frichan job. If we had 10 on the field in the red zone vs TSU as well, man, someone or something needs to change significantly.

Nah man. This is a growing pain. This is the type of stuff coaches mess up for at lower levels when no one else is watching.

Remember when Kelly had two players wearing the same number during the missed FG attempt that would have won the game for Pitt in 2012? (Irish Had 2 Players With Same Number On Field On Key Missed FG). Wasn't called then, but a similar type of screwup. These things happen, just normally don't end up occurring during the biggest game in years.

 

[Irishdrunk]

There should be a quality control coach, analyst, GA or intern who does this from the box on every down. The person probably isn't even fucking paid by most programs. Not that difficult.

Find someone who can see down on the field and can count to 11, tell this person they have one job and get to it. Christ Almighty.

I had no idea that happened. If true, it adds another layer of failure to this mess.

Its like the Blind Leading the Blind. The players should also have awareness too. I know some team captains - especially experienced LBs will often be able to do a head count at formation. Shows that they were not ready for the pressure. The staff and the players.

Joel Klatt's analysis was spot-on.

Its 110% unacceptable and resulted in the loss of a game that was won. Gerard's last drive was bad management, Golden's Coverage Zone with only rushing 3 men was an awful idea and Freeman and staff's screw up with only 10 players costed the game. None of this really involved so-called "Poor Execution" by the players. The Coaching staff screwed the players and the program. And Freeman's initial Presser after the game was not a good look because it wasn't obvious to him how badly he and his staff fucked it up. I was expecting him to be mad at himself and upset for his staff losing the game but his initial thoughts was to make excuses and not realizing the 10 on the field fiasco.

 

[Luckylucci]

I still can't believe ND lost to these bozos. Would have been a program trajectory changing win. Still stuck in the mud until at least USC.

Agreed.

I watched the game with a bunch of OSU fans. My Brother-in-Law is an alum and avid fan like all of us. Knows everything about that team. The most sobering thing that I can't get over is after the game he looked at me, very seriously, and said I cannot believe we had to "steal" a game from Notre Dame. You guys are the better team and we do not deserve to win this one.

Which they didn't. Yet, they still did.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

17 points is OSUs lowest point total since 2017.

 

[PutuporShutup]

17 points is OSUs lowest point total since 2017.

and 10 and 14 points last 2 years is probably the lowest they've given up to a top 10 team in forever.

 

[sfk324]

and 10 and 14 points last 2 years is probably the lowest they've given up to a top 10 team in forever.

Or since November 2021 when they gave up 7 to #7 ranked MSU

 

[PutuporShutup]

Or since November 2021 when they gave up 7 to #7 ranked MSU

dang it, forgot about that game. When everyone thought OSU was unbeatable, and them michigan spanked them the week after.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

There should be a quality control coach, analyst, GA or intern who does this from the box on every down. The person probably isn't even fucking paid by most programs. Not that difficult.

Find someone who can see down on the field and can count to 11, tell this person they have one job and get to it. Christ Almighty.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

There's learning on the job when it comes to quick decisions/strategy/etc etc. This is not that, this is process, structure, accountability, and people doing their frichan job. If we had 10 on the field in the red zone vs TSU as well, man, someone or something needs to change significantly.

Edit- I quickly looked at their red zone possessions vs TSU and we had 11 on the field for each one.

Thanks for checking. I'll try and find the video I watched. It was a post game presser (might've been with the players). I forget which journo asked the question. But I clearly heard him mention "10-men on the field" and "TSU" in the same sentence. Maybe it happened between the 20s and not in the redzone. I'm not sure.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

I still can't believe ND lost to these bozos. Would have been a program trajectory changing win. Still stuck in the mud until at least USC.

This is why it still is such an amazingly bad loss. It honestly wouldn’t matter nearly as much what happened the rest of the year.

The images and videos of an absolutely energized sea of green celebrating a huge win while Freeman stands on the concrete barrier rallying everyone in the stands in celebration would have been a recruiting tool that had people lined up to live in that moment someday.

Stuck in the mud for awhile, not until USC. Everyone put everything they had into last Saturday. There is no way to match that intensity again. ND Nation is spent until 2024.


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[Irish#1]

A long time ago, I was really pissed about something at work. Kept bitching and whining about it to my boss for a few days. He finally looked at me and said, "It's been three days. You've got the rest of the day to bitch and moan. I don't want to hear about it anymore starting tomorrow."

 

[NDWarrior]

Awful Jarrett Patterson, Kurt Hinish and CJ Stroud on Instagram

 

[NDRock]

I do the chains for my son’s high school football games. We’re on the visitor’s side so I get to see different coaching staffs. Maybe they have to stay on top of it more because it’s a lower level but I would have been very surprised if any team I saw went two straight plays missing a lineman. Seems like the position coaches are on top of their group’s personnel. Perhaps it happens more than I realize.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

A long time ago, I was really pissed about something at work. Kept bitching and whining about it to my boss for a few days. He finally looked at me and said, "It's been three days. You've got the rest of the day to bitch and moan. I don't want to hear about it anymore starting tomorrow."

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[JamIrish]

Just wanted to give Javonte Jean-Baptiste a shout out. Led the team in tackles and played a hell of a game. Don't think there was anyone who wanted this W more than him and he showed it. Excellent pickup in the portal. When we landed him I said he was a huge pickup and all the talking heads said he was a "depth piece". Glad to be right about this one.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Awful Jarrett Patterson, Kurt Hinish and CJ Stroud on Instagram

Who’s the woman in the middle?


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[EvilleIrish]

 

[EvilleIrish]

Pain

 

[NDRock]

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I know everyone thinks this play would have hit big but #58 was unblocked and most likely makes a tackle.

 

[calvegas04]

I see some are at the Acceptance/ Moral victory stage

 

[calvegas04]

 

[T-Boone]

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Could you explain what play that is and what has been circled? Is that JT pass deflecting?

 

[pumpdog20]

Chris Hassel is a national treasure