Superconferences & Realignment

[NDRock]

This sucks.

College football is on track to becoming a steaming pile of shit.

What I’ve realized is that I’m not really a college football fan anymore, I’m a Notre Dame fan. Barely pay attention to the playoffs if we’re not in it.

I’d rather watch high school (helps that my son is playing) or NFL. Both superior overall. IMO.

 

[stlnd01]

What I’ve realized is that I’m not really a college football fan anymore, I’m a Notre Dame fan. Barely pay attention to the playoffs if we’re not in it.

I’d rather watch high school (helps that my son is playing) or NFL. Both superior overall. IMO.

That's too bad. For all the off-field drama and nonsense, what happens in the stadiums on Saturday is still pretty damn fun. The variety of styles, disparity in talent (and thus upsets) and atmosphere makes the college game more entertaining than NFL football, IMO.

 

[NDRock]

That's too bad. For all the off-field drama and nonsense, what happens in the stadiums on Saturday is still pretty damn fun. The variety of styles, disparity in talent (and thus upsets) and atmosphere makes the college game more entertaining than NFL football, IMO.

Yeah, it’s definitely on me. I don’t watch MLB or NBA like I used to either. Got into following other sports. It’s really just the white noise around the sport that gets tiresome. Living in SEC country is a drain with constant arguments about SOS and other nonsense. Obviously others enjoy that aspect.

 

[Giddyup]

When did all these schools turn into money whores? Seems like the cost of travel is going to negate any modest gains they make in tv money.

 

[MacIrish75]

Here is a ranking of my sports consumption:

1) ND Football
2) NCAA Football
3) ND Hoops
4) Colts
5) White Sox (if the product is worth it)
6) NCAA Basketball
7) NFL
8) Golf
9) NCAA Baseball
10) Indy 500
11) MLB Playoffs

I can’t tell you the last time I watched an NBA game. I was a Pacers fan in the Reggie days, but just really can’t stomach the NBA anymore. Might flip onto the Finals if it’s all that’s on. Not a hockey guy. Used to watch NASCAR pretty regularly, but all the names I enjoyed have retired.

 

[drayer54]

Kansas, Arizona, UConn, ISU, Tech, K-State,Houston will make for some fun basketball.

 

[INLaw]

You ever go to the bar with the hopes of getting laid? I have. There are all types of girls. There are the sluts like Colorado that will give a blowie, but you know anyone could gave gotten that. Then, there is the sorority girl that, on first appearance seems like a great deal. She's cute, has a great ass and has friends that are equally hot and witty. She's also digging you. Sure, you wonder whether your last penicillin shot is going to work, but a good lay is a good lay am i right? But there is also that chick with a great rack that won't sag with age and a body that let's you know no slippage after kids. She's smart and a pre-med major. You are not quite sure whether she is actually looking to hook up or not. But her mere presence is mesmerizing and you know you have to have her. Everyone wants her, it's clear. But some guys go for the sure thing. Others know how to play their cards and wait to pounce. She will be sacked, she we be wed.

ND is that babe. Nobody is leaving the bar without her. Book it.

This post requires popcorn, Hennessy, and hpv vaccine

 

[NDRock]

This post requires popcorn, Hennessy, and hpv vaccine

Yeah, wasn’t expecting that from a guy with accountant in his name. Essentially, everyone wants to bang ND.

 

[Sea Turtle]

The B1G is truly the national conference now. They will go for two more. North Caroina and Virginia to dominate the mid Atlantic with Maryland or invade the south with FSU and Clemson.

 

[Irish#1]

Mmmm…I wouldn’t be too sure about that. Big money has a pretty good track record of destroying cool old traditional stuff and making it completely irrelevant.

That’s a big part of what ND hangs its hat on/the ND brand.

ND doesn’t sell itself to others on tradition. It automatically sells itself because of its huge fan base and the huge group that says they hate ND but will tune in to see them lose.

 

[forkbeard3777]

The B1G is truly the national conference now. They will go for two more. North Caroina and Virginia to dominate the mid Atlantic with Maryland or invade the south with FSU and Clemson.

It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out. I still believe this is shortsighted and that the end game will be that we won't have the NCAA (at least any presence over college football) and conferences.

I believe it'll eventually be a 50, 60 team "league", comprised of the best schools (no Wake Forest, Syracuse, Temple, Indiana, Rutgers, Illinois, Kansas, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, Houston, Colorado State, and so forth), free of conferences, with its 12-game Playoff.

College football has survived (and thrived) on tradition and regionality. It's a different game now. While you may not like it initially, I believe the aforementioned will work. Viewership won't decline with weekly matchups filled with the likes of Michigan @ Auburn, Texas @ Notre Dame, Penn State @ Florida, LSU @ USC, Ohio State @ Georgia, Texas A&M @ Wisconsin, Tennessee @ Oregon, Oklahoma @ Washington week after week.

 

[forkbeard3777]

You ever go to the bar with the hopes of getting laid? I have. There are all types of girls. There are the sluts like Colorado that will give a blowie, but you know anyone could gave gotten that. Then, there is the sorority girl that, on first appearance seems like a great deal. She's cute, has a great ass and has friends that are equally hot and witty. She's also digging you. Sure, you wonder whether your last penicillin shot is going to work, but a good lay is a good lay am i right? But there is also that chick with a great rack that won't sag with age and a body that let's you know no slippage after kids. She's smart and a pre-med major. You are not quite sure whether she is actually looking to hook up or not. But her mere presence is mesmerizing and you know you have to have her. Everyone wants her, it's clear. But some guys go for the sure thing. Others know how to play their cards and wait to pounce. She will be sacked, she we be wed.

ND is that babe. Nobody is leaving the bar without her. Book it.

That "ND babe" sounds like an absolute bore in the bed - a terrible lay, which isn't even a given! Given your scenario, well, that night out at the bar, I'm grabbing my lift tickets and hitting the slopes! Go Buffs!

 

[IRISHDODGER]

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

Pac-4 Conference Updates

The Pac-4 is the premier tri-state West Coast college football conference.

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[forkbeard3777]

Yeah, it’s definitely on me. I don’t watch MLB or NBA like I used to either. Got into following other sports. It’s really just the white noise around the sport that gets tiresome. Living in SEC country is a drain with constant arguments about SOS and other nonsense. Obviously others enjoy that aspect.

A part of that is simpy growing up and maturing. Instead of being glued to College Gameday's in the morning, I'm reading the WSJ, doing a little work here or there, doing some yardwork, or taking the kids somewhere.

I fit the games in when I can. Recording them helps (allows you to fast-forward through the commercials), but the days of sitting at a tailgate or at a bar and watching football all damn day are long gone.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Under what scenario does the ACC "blow up"? This would involve a raid from whom, the Big Ten? The SEC? At this point, P5 is now P4. I don't see how it becomes P3 unless there is a viable raid on the ACC. I don't see where that is plausible.

Yet.

 

[Sea Turtle]

There are 4 certainties in life.

Death
Taxes
The Chupacabra
Notre Dame independence

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

There are 4 certainties in life.

Death
Taxes
The Chupacabre
Notre Dame independence

We're not even independent

 

[GATTACA!]

Under what scenario does the ACC "blow up"? This would involve a raid from whom, the Big Ten? The SEC? At this point, P5 is now P4. I don't see how it becomes P3 unless there is a viable raid on the ACC. I don't see where that is plausible.

Yet.

If a certain number agree to leave doesn’t the GOR dissolve? Could see each of the P3 poach 2-4 schools and have enough leave to make it happen.

 

[stlnd01]

Under what scenario does the ACC "blow up"? This would involve a raid from whom, the Big Ten? The SEC? At this point, P5 is now P4. I don't see how it becomes P3 unless there is a viable raid on the ACC. I don't see where that is plausible.

Yet.

It could survive in some weakened form but if Florida State and Clemson figure a way to bust out and jump to the SEC, it's going to be a pretty mediocre football conference. Then the question becomes whether a couple of the others - UNC and either UVA or Duke most likely - are appealing enough that the B1G would take them on. That'd be game over. Big 12 would come for a few (Pitt? Louisville? Va. Tech?) and the rest would be on their own.

The two things that might prevent it are if the Grant of Rights agreement truly is airtight, and the fact that a bunch of core ACC schools actually do care about playing each other in basketball. But I wouldn't count on either of those.

 

[GATTACA!]

It could survive in some weakened form but if Florida State and Clemson figure a way to bust out and jump to the SEC, it's going to be a pretty mediocre football conference. Then the question becomes whether a couple of the others - UNC and either UVA or Duke most likely - are appealing enough that the B1G would take them on. That'd be game over. Big 12 would come for a few (Pitt? Louisville? Va. Tech?) and the rest would be on their own.

The two things that might prevent it are if the Grant of Rights agreement truly is airtight, and the fact that a bunch of core ACC schools actually do care about playing each other in basketball. But I wouldn't count on either of those.

UNC is always talked about for the B1G. I’m sure they’d take them. Do they grab Miami if FSU goes to the SEC? To give themselves a foothold in Florida? Also good academically.

 

[forkbeard3777]

It could survive in some weakened form but if Florida State and Clemson figure a way to bust out and jump to the SEC, it's going to be a pretty mediocre football conference. Then the question becomes whether a couple of the others - UNC and either UVA or Duke most likely - are appealing enough that the B1G would take them on. That'd be game over. Big 12 would come for a few (Pitt? Louisville? Va. Tech?) and the rest would be on their own.

The two things that might prevent it are if the Grant of Rights agreement truly is airtight, and the fact that a bunch of core ACC schools actually do care about playing each other in basketball. But I wouldn't count on either of those.

I really don’t believe the SEC is interested. From what I’ve been told, the SEC is content and isn’t shopping right now.

 

[forkbeard3777]

UNC is always talked about for the B1G. I’m sure they’d take them. Do they grab Miami if FSU goes to the SEC? To give themselves a foothold in Florida? Also good academically.

Meh. FSU is considered to be a slightly better school than Miami. Take it for what little rankings are worth. Virginia and UNC are definitely considered to be better than Miami, academically. Neither of the three really move the needle though. Maybe UNC for basketball, but that’s really it, and I wouldn’t add a school due to having a good basketball program.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I really don’t believe the SEC is interested. From what I’ve been told, the SEC is content and isn’t shopping right now.

That is the general impression I'm getting too. You would assume that if they were at some point, they won't go reaching very far north, but at this time I think they're more than content with what they have and ultimately got the big prize with UT and OU that ultimately got the ball rolling with all of this. They started the whole thing and are content just sitting back while everyone else scrambles.

 

[GATTACA!]

Meh. FSU is considered to be a slightly better school than Miami. Take it for what little rankings are worth. Virginia and UNC are definitely considered to be better than Miami, academically. Neither of the three really move the needle though. Maybe UNC for basketball, but that’s really it, and I wouldn’t add a school due to having a good basketball program.

I was just kidding about Miami academically.

 

[Irishdrunk]

I think the SEC would take ND if there was interest. There is not. ND should join the best football conference there is (SEC) and be done with this pseudo independence with the ACC.

ND would get a huge bump in recruiting.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

I think the SEC would take ND if there was interest. There is not. ND should join the best football conference there is (SEC) and be done with this pseudo independence with the ACC.

ND would get a huge bump in recruiting.

SEC would walkover broken glass to get ND. Ultimate checkmate

 

[drayer54]

I think the SEC would take ND if there was interest. There is not. ND should join the best football conference there is (SEC) and be done with this pseudo independence with the ACC.

ND would get a huge bump in recruiting.

I'd rather play in the BIG outside of football. Boo me.

Playing Purdue, IU X 3, Northwestern, MSU, OSU is nice. It's not just football and I hate the South in September.

 

[Irish#1]

Wake me up when it’s over and you can fill me in.

 

[Blazers46]

Wake me up when it’s over and you can fill me in.

You sound like my wife…