Brian Kelly to LSU, per report

[Irishcop]

What the hell is going on in this thread?????

 

[Blazers46]

Definitely. 8-5 records and vacated wins from using ineligible players are the types of results ND fans should be hoping for. Oh, and getting a kid killed so he could get practice tape. Can't forget that one. So lucky to have had him on board.

Dumbest take ever from a “ND fan”. Give him the boot and block the IP address.

 

[sfk324]

Dumbest take ever from a “ND fan”. Give him the boot and block the IP address.

Truth hurts, I know. The amount of kiss-ass to BK, Swarbrick, and Jenkins is disturbing. The same people you all bitch about for not paying guys, th guy who lies to a recruits face while eating their food. Yet you buy every lie they tell you about things that actually matter. Bizarre and hilarious.

 

[Blazers46]

Truth hurts, I know. The amount of kiss-ass to BK, Swarbrick, and Jenkins is disturbing. The same people you all bitch about for not paying guys, th guy who lies to a recruits face while eating their food. Yet you buy every lie they tell you about things that actually matter. Bizarre and hilarious.

Like it or not, BK has done more for ND than anyone since Lou Holtz. While overly flawed, the truth hurts.

 

[NDRock]

Every word of what you just wrote is complete, cherrypicked horseshit and it's objectively hilarious you spent so much time showing your ass about it. Swarbrick and Jenkins lied though their teeth and have continued to do so to this day. But believe what you want. Good luck making it through life being such a dumb fuck.

You better hope Reaper is deep into the scotch or else you just signed your own death warrant. Dude had to register his hands as deadly weapons. And he’s retired. You’ve been warned.

 

[CanadalovesND]

BK was both a great and bad coach. BK was both likeable and detestable. BK could hire both good and shit coaches. All facts.

Also a fact: He doesn’t coach here anymore.

Why must we continue to drag ourselves through the mud with the same few arguments every time a little piece of information comes out.

BK stopped trying towards the end of his career at ND. Call it fatigue if you wish. He won a lot of games and put ND back in good spot nationally, but in the end, he gave up.

We have a young coach now who has accepted and taken on the challenge.

 

[sfk324]

You better hope Reaper is deep into the scotch or else you just signed your own death warrant. Dude had to register his hands as deadly weapons. And he’s retired. You’ve been warned.

 

[Irishdrunk]

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Dylan Mulvaney???

 

[sfk324]

You better hope Reaper is deep into the scotch or else you just signed your own death warrant. Dude had to register his hands as deadly weapons. And he’s retired. You’ve been warned.

He also doesn't have his facts straight. Since apparently it's not kosher to tell the truth here, here's what actually happened and why you shouldn't just give these fucks (Jenkins, Swarbrick, or Kelly) a pass on either of these issues.

The feds never investigated, it was Indiana OSHA, who found fault with the policies that were in place that resulted in the accident. Whose policies, you ask? The football program, who for some reason didn't clear with risk management that they were using a scissor lifts to record practice, had a policy that allowed for the use of lifts above.and beyond international standards based on "conferences and conversations with other teams," and had athletic department staff train them rather than undergo university-requires training. So you had a team and athletic department policy that resulted in a death. But he is right that nobody was found at fault because the weather was "calm" according to BK and "unremarkable"according to Ol Lady Frames. But sure. I believe those two assholes.

As for the vacated wins, he's not even remotely accurate. The university, the student trainer (who had graduated during the period she was engaged in the violations) and the NCAA all agreed to the underlying facts. Included in those facts was that current students had engaged in academic dishonesty, and had their grades changed. The university (and ol' Reaper over here) want you to think that's all that happened, and that if the university just let it slide or changed grades to Cs or Ds or something that would have let them have an acceptable GPA, nothing would have happened. But it was not. The university and the trainer (who was an employee of the athletic department and thus, the institution) agreed that the trainer/employee provided impermissible extra benefits to 6 other players who had since graduated and where thus no longer able to be disciplined by the University's academic code. So in addition to the 3 who had been suspended and removed from school, there were 6 more who graduated and were retroactively ineligible. They used ineligible players, and the standard punishment for using ineligible players is vacating wins in which those players took part. Before the investigation started, Jenkins said that's what ND would do, as Nepotism Jack stood by at the press conference. Then it happened and he tried to obfuscate the issue, and folks like Ol' Reaper over here eat it up.

For good measure, the university also tried to claim this was unprecedented. It was not. The university agreed that the closest similar case involved an East Carolina tutor who engaged in essentially the same behavior. They tried to obfuscate this, too, arguing that since this was a trainer and not a tutor, they were different. The appeals panel wasn't buying that, and anyone with an iota of objectivity and intact cognitive functioning shouldn't either. East Carolina's punishment? Vacated wins for the team where the retroactively ineligible players had participated. Just as with ND.

But I hope he tells me again how I don't know the facts.

 

[Huntr]

So in addition to the 3 who had been suspended and removed from school, there were 6 more who graduated and were retroactively ineligible. They used ineligible players,...

Not addressing anything else posted, but this is jerkoff NCAA retroactive bullshit. Fuck the NCAA and fuck anyone subscribing to that kind of dumbass logic to regulate college sports.

 

[INLaw]

He also doesn't have his facts straight. Since apparently it's not kosher to tell the truth here, here's what actually happened and why you shouldn't just give these fucks (Jenkins, Swarbrick, or Kelly) a pass on either of these issues.

The feds never investigated, it was Indiana OSHA, who found fault with the policies that were in place that resulted in the accident. Whose policies, you ask? The football program, who for some reason didn't clear with risk management that they were using a scissor lifts to record practice, had a policy that allowed for the use of lifts above.and beyond international standards based on "conferences and conversations with other teams," and had athletic department staff train them rather than undergo university-requires training. So you had a team and athletic department policy that resulted in a death. But he is right that nobody was found at fault because the weather was "calm" according to BK and "unremarkable"according to Ol Lady Frames. But sure. I believe those two assholes.

As for the vacated wins, he's not even remotely accurate. The university, the student trainer (who had graduated during the period she was engaged in the violations) and the NCAA all agreed to the underlying facts. Included in those facts was that current students had engaged in academic dishonesty, and had their grades changed. The university (and ol' Reaper over here) want you to think that's all that happened, and that if the university just let it slide or changed grades to Cs or Ds or something that would have let them have an acceptable GPA, nothing would have happened. But it was not. The university and the trainer (who was an employee of the athletic department and thus, the institution) agreed that the trainer/employee provided impermissible extra benefits to 6 other players who had since graduated and where thus no longer able to be disciplined by the University's academic code. So in addition to the 3 who had been suspended and removed from school, there were 6 more who graduated and were retroactively ineligible. They used ineligible players, and the standard punishment for using ineligible players is vacating wins in which those players took part. Before the investigation started, Jenkins said that's what ND would do, as Nepotism Jack stood by at the press conference. Then it happened and he tried to obfuscate the issue, and folks like Ol' Reaper over here eat it up.

For good measure, the university also tried to claim this was unprecedented. It was not. The university agreed that the closest similar case involved an East Carolina tutor who engaged in essentially the same behavior. They tried to obfuscate this, too, arguing that since this was a trainer and not a tutor, they were different. The appeals panel wasn't buying that, and anyone with an iota of objectivity and intact cognitive functioning shouldn't either. East Carolina's punishment? Vacated wins for the team where the retroactively ineligible players had participated. Just as with ND.

But I hope he tells me again how I don't know the facts.

-TLDR
-SLAPDICK

 

[Irishdrunk]

He also doesn't have his facts straight. Since apparently it's not kosher to tell the truth here, here's what actually happened and why you shouldn't just give these fucks (Jenkins, Swarbrick, or Kelly) a pass on either of these issues.

The feds never investigated, it was Indiana OSHA, who found fault with the policies that were in place that resulted in the accident. Whose policies, you ask? The football program, who for some reason didn't clear with risk management that they were using a scissor lifts to record practice, had a policy that allowed for the use of lifts above.and beyond international standards based on "conferences and conversations with other teams," and had athletic department staff train them rather than undergo university-requires training. So you had a team and athletic department policy that resulted in a death. But he is right that nobody was found at fault because the weather was "calm" according to BK and "unremarkable"according to Ol Lady Frames. But sure. I believe those two assholes.

As for the vacated wins, he's not even remotely accurate. The university, the student trainer (who had graduated during the period she was engaged in the violations) and the NCAA all agreed to the underlying facts. Included in those facts was that current students had engaged in academic dishonesty, and had their grades changed. The university (and ol' Reaper over here) want you to think that's all that happened, and that if the university just let it slide or changed grades to Cs or Ds or something that would have let them have an acceptable GPA, nothing would have happened. But it was not. The university and the trainer (who was an employee of the athletic department and thus, the institution) agreed that the trainer/employee provided impermissible extra benefits to 6 other players who had since graduated and where thus no longer able to be disciplined by the University's academic code. So in addition to the 3 who had been suspended and removed from school, there were 6 more who graduated and were retroactively ineligible. They used ineligible players, and the standard punishment for using ineligible players is vacating wins in which those players took part. Before the investigation started, Jenkins said that's what ND would do, as Nepotism Jack stood by at the press conference. Then it happened and he tried to obfuscate the issue, and folks like Ol' Reaper over here eat it up.

For good measure, the university also tried to claim this was unprecedented. It was not. The university agreed that the closest similar case involved an East Carolina tutor who engaged in essentially the same behavior. They tried to obfuscate this, too, arguing that since this was a trainer and not a tutor, they were different. The appeals panel wasn't buying that, and anyone with an iota of objectivity and intact cognitive functioning shouldn't either. East Carolina's punishment? Vacated wins for the team where the retroactively ineligible players had participated. Just as with ND.

But I hope he tells me again how I don't know the facts.

I am confused. Please clarify.

So who are you talking about with the most with your Therapist:

Savvy Jack?
Brian Kelly?
Marcus Freeman?
Father Jenkins?
Reaper?

 

[irishandy]

Also a fact: He doesn’t coach here anymore.

Why must we continue to drag ourselves through the mud with the same few arguments every time a little piece of information comes out.

We have a young coach now who has accepted and taken on the challenge.

Well said....some posters need to move on or join a LSU board

 

[forkbeard3777]

He also doesn't have his facts straight. Since apparently it's not kosher to tell the truth here, here's what actually happened and why you shouldn't just give these fucks (Jenkins, Swarbrick, or Kelly) a pass on either of these issues.

The feds never investigated, it was Indiana OSHA, who found fault with the policies that were in place that resulted in the accident. Whose policies, you ask? The football program, who for some reason didn't clear with risk management that they were using a scissor lifts to record practice, had a policy that allowed for the use of lifts above.and beyond international standards based on "conferences and conversations with other teams," and had athletic department staff train them rather than undergo university-requires training. So you had a team and athletic department policy that resulted in a death. But he is right that nobody was found at fault because the weather was "calm" according to BK and "unremarkable"according to Ol Lady Frames. But sure. I believe those two assholes.

As for the vacated wins, he's not even remotely accurate. The university, the student trainer (who had graduated during the period she was engaged in the violations) and the NCAA all agreed to the underlying facts. Included in those facts was that current students had engaged in academic dishonesty, and had their grades changed. The university (and ol' Reaper over here) want you to think that's all that happened, and that if the university just let it slide or changed grades to Cs or Ds or something that would have let them have an acceptable GPA, nothing would have happened. But it was not. The university and the trainer (who was an employee of the athletic department and thus, the institution) agreed that the trainer/employee provided impermissible extra benefits to 6 other players who had since graduated and where thus no longer able to be disciplined by the University's academic code. So in addition to the 3 who had been suspended and removed from school, there were 6 more who graduated and were retroactively ineligible. They used ineligible players, and the standard punishment for using ineligible players is vacating wins in which those players took part. Before the investigation started, Jenkins said that's what ND would do, as Nepotism Jack stood by at the press conference. Then it happened and he tried to obfuscate the issue, and folks like Ol' Reaper over here eat it up.

For good measure, the university also tried to claim this was unprecedented. It was not. The university agreed that the closest similar case involved an East Carolina tutor who engaged in essentially the same behavior. They tried to obfuscate this, too, arguing that since this was a trainer and not a tutor, they were different. The appeals panel wasn't buying that, and anyone with an iota of objectivity and intact cognitive functioning shouldn't either. East Carolina's punishment? Vacated wins for the team where the retroactively ineligible players had participated. Just as with ND.

But I hope he tells me again how I don't know the facts.

Why would they?

 

[Grahambo]

 

[Blazers46]

Brian Kelly to Northwestern

 

[forkbeard3777]

Sadly (and with the exclusion of Penn State, who prefers abusing young boys) I think this goes on, and has gone on for quite some time, at every school.

 

[FollowTheFreeman]

Sadly (and with the exclusion of Penn State, who prefers abusing young boys) I think this goes on, and has gone on for quite some time, at every school.

LSU in particular has done a remarkable job brushing its recent woes under the rug. I live in New Orleans and the amount of people who are absolutely ignorant of what's been going on there is very high. Then there's the people that know and don't care, who think it was blown out of proportion.

It's unfortunate but I've found it's best keeping quiet regarding my opinion on LSU down here...

 

[forkbeard3777]

LSU in particular has done a remarkable job brushing its recent woes under the rug. I live in New Orleans and the amount of people who are absolutely ignorant of what's been going on there is very high. Then there's the people that know and don't care, who think it was blown out of proportion.

It's unfortunate but I've found it's best keeping quiet regarding my opinion on LSU down here...

Where at? Jesuit grad here — grew up in the Garden Dist. off of Chestnut.

I think most of LSU’s “recent woes” have been fairly publicized, tbh. I still think it’s no different than every other school across the board. The latter portion of your statement is probably accurate, but again, I’d say that’s the norm for fans of most teams.

 

[FollowTheFreeman]

Where at? Jesuit grad here — grew up in the Garden Dist. off of Chestnut.

I think most of LSU’s “recent woes” have been fairly publicized, tbh. I still think it’s no different than every other school across the board. The latter portion of your statement is probably accurate, but again, I’d say that’s the norm for fans of most teams.

Grew up in NY, moved here for college, found me a lovely cajun lady. We're near Oak St in Uptown.

And yeah you are right in that it's been publicized a good amount. Whether the locals bothered to read said publication is another conversation.

 

[forkbeard3777]

Grew up in NY, moved here for college, found me a lovely cajun lady. We're near Oak St in Uptown.

And yeah you are right in that it's been publicized a good amount. Whether the locals bothered to read said publication is another conversation.

Nice. I miss having drinks at Oak and then late nights for more drinks and music at the Maple Leaf.

 

[Irishdrunk]

But where do you go grinding????

 

[forkbeard3777]

But where do you go grinding????

BK and I hit up F&M's, Grit's, or Bruno's if Uptown. Or, maybe we'll venture to the Gold Mine for some flaming Dr Pepper shots if we find ourselves in the Quarter.

 

[JamIrish]

I was going to post his Media Day conference but after watching the first two minutes and him starting off by taking a shot at ND I thought the better. He starts off by saying how thankful he was to be at a conference media day because "the other place he was for several years didn't afford him the opportunity." Then he said that year 1 was about him acclimating to his team and "learning how to play in those kind of environments." I could be wrong but sounds like jabs. I am a bias ND fan though.

 

[Irishdrunk]

I was going to post his Media Day conference but after watching the first two minutes and him starting off by taking a shot at ND I thought the better. He starts off by saying how thankful he was to be at a conference media day because "the other place he was for several years didn't afford him the opportunity." Then he said that year 1 was about him acclimating to his team and "learning how to play in those kind of environments." I could be wrong but sounds like jabs. I am a bias ND fan though.

I didn’t hear the first part but I didn’t think the second part was about ND at all.

 

[stlnd01]

Saying he was "thankful to be at conference media day" is meaningless happy talk. No one is actually thankful to be at conference media day, it's just another of BK's awkward attempts at making pleasantries. I wouldn't bother to be offended.

 

[GreenGemsOmally]

Grew up in NY, moved here for college, found me a lovely cajun lady. We're near Oak St in Uptown.

And yeah you are right in that it's been publicized a good amount. Whether the locals bothered to read said publication is another conversation.

Hahahaha. I know who you arreeeeeeeeee.

Beers this weekend?

 

[forkbeard3777]

Saying he was "thankful to be at conference media day" is meaningless happy talk. No one is actually thankful to be at conference media day, it's just another of BK's awkward attempts at making pleasantries. I wouldn't bother to be offended.

I agree. BK is the king of “stock answers.” However, I’ll take it as it’s much better than the bumbling buffoon, Miles, and the caveman, O.

 

[Irish#1]

I was going to post his Media Day conference but after watching the first two minutes and him starting off by taking a shot at ND I thought the better. He starts off by saying how thankful he was to be at a conference media day because "the other place he was for several years didn't afford him the opportunity." Then he said that year 1 was about him acclimating to his team and "learning how to play in those kind of environments." I could be wrong but sounds like jabs. I am a bias ND fan though.

He did say he was happy that he didn't have to wear a tie and it was a more relaxed atmosphere. Ties? lol

Also said at ND he had to be on a plane to pull the best player out of Cali, Texas, etc. where as at LSU he doesn't have to.

 

[Irishdrunk]

He did say he was happy that he didn't have to wear a tie and it was a more relaxed atmosphere. Ties? lol

Also said at ND he had to be on a plane to pull the best player out of Cali, Texas, etc. where as at LSU he doesn't have to.

All of which is true. He did wear a suit and tie for several of the sessions at Nashville though.