'24 NE LB Teddy Rezac (Notre Dame Signee)

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WilliamWallace said:
WADR (with all due respect) (yep that’s mine), Freeman is not Kelly. Until he proves otherwise, you follow the lead. Let’s look forward to what this season brings, and stop over-ANAL-izing every supposed questionable recruit. We live in the days of the portal LION (like it or not). They make it or we find a replacement.

P.S. please don’t move my post, 😂
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You had me at ANAL.
 
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chisea03 said:
Okay, let’s go with Tyler Eifert, Will Fuller Chris Claypool? They were also 3 star recruits.

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Buddy you don’t want me to list all the 3-star recruits who didn’t work out. Because there’s a lot more of them than the ones that did. That’s why they’re 3-star recruits - most of them are just dudes on the roster, or the teams that Notre Dame can’t beat would recruit them over 4 and 5-star recruits.

This isn’t the air-tight argument you think it is.
 
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Part of last year’s state championship squad. Teammate of ‘25 Caleb Benning. This is a perennial powerhouse in Nebraska at the highest level, he has the measurables, seems like a no brainer to me

Edit: Caleb Benning is son of Nebraska legend Damon Benning, projects as a defensive back at the next level but is a definite talent on both sides of the ball. Lot of hidden gems in Nebraska that get passed up because of the competition level
 
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Maybe Loy forgot to ask this kid if he’s a PWO offer.
Seriously, that offer list is not impressive. Nebraska kid not offered by Nebraska? Concerning
 
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ColinKSU said:
Buddy you don’t want me to list all the 3-star recruits who didn’t work out. Because there’s a lot more of them than the ones that did. That’s why they’re 3-star recruits - most of them are just dudes on the roster, or the teams that Notre Dame can’t beat would recruit them over 4 and 5-star recruits.

This isn’t the air-tight argument you think it is.
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Guy, there’s a lot of 3 star recruits that didn’t work out at bama, Ohio state, Georgia etc that didn’t work out and plenty who did. What’s your point? Notre Dame’s failure against said schools was not about the stars recruiting services gave them. Those teams were fundamentally out coached primarily with horrible qb play. Stetson Bennet was a walk-on anddddddd... (Doesn’t count because he went to Georgia?)

If he becomes a star at ND, I bet you’d forget he was a 3 star…
 
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The saying is "film don't lie". This is a guy who is long, rangy and athletic and it translates to the film. That is the key here.

I don't know if he's a legit sub 4.5, but he looks plenty fast and athletic.

People shouldn't act so surprised. This guy fits the profile of what Freeman has been going after for defense to a T. Versatile, athletic, long players, particularly for the front 7.
 
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Crazy Balki said:
The saying is "film don't lie". This is a guy who is long, rangy and athletic and it translates to the film. That is the key here.

I don't know if he's a legit sub 4.5, but he looks plenty fast and athletic.

People shouldn't act so surprised. This guy fits the profile of what Freeman has been going after for defense to a T. Versatile, athletic, long players, particularly for the front 7.
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Our first 30 options had these characteristics except they dominate high school vs made a few splash plays for film.
 
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PutuporShutup said:
Our first 30 options had these characteristics except they dominate high school vs made a few splash plays for film.
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Freeman isn't offering a guy off of "a few splash plays".

Your example of Clarence Lewis was also pretty bad, considering Lewis wasn't a plus athlete at corner. This guys is very clearly a plus athlete at LB.
 
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stlnd01 said:
We're not losing out on top recruits and shopping for three stars because we won nine games instead of 10 last year. Our rankings and record were comparable to LSU and Oregon, better than Texas and Miami, all of whom finished with better classes than us. But they offer something that we don't.
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The college experience minus the college part right?
 
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The arguments and opinions of some posters on here gives me the diarrhea. Absolutely comical and frankly, ridiculous.

Some ND “fans” are just trash
 
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I honestly don’t know how people can follow college football closely and not think recruiting rankings matter. You need elite talent to win big and 5* players hit at a higher rate than any other group. Pretty simple. Go look back at ND’s 5 stars the last 20 years and it will be no different.
 
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Crazy Balki said:
Freeman isn't offering a guy off of "a few splash plays".

Your example of Clarence Lewis was also pretty bad, considering Lewis wasn't a plus athlete at corner. This guys is very clearly a plus athlete at LB.
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Lewis still plays for us (and has since his freshman year when we made the playoff) so he was worth his scholarship. He’s been better than some higher ranked guys at his position in the same time frame (KJ Wallace and Isaiah Rutherford were 4stars in the previous class but were behind Lewis from pretty much the moment he stepped on campus)
 
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chisea03 said:
Guy, there’s a lot of 3 star recruits that didn’t work out at bama, Ohio state, Georgia etc that didn’t work out and plenty who did. What’s your point? Notre Dame’s failure against said schools was not about the stars recruiting services gave them. Those teams were fundamentally out coached primarily with horrible qb play. Stetson Bennet was a walk-on anddddddd... (Doesn’t count because he went to Georgia?)

If he becomes a star at ND, I bet you’d forget he was a 3 star…
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What kind of talent did Georgia surround Stetson Bennett with? Was it local guys they beat Georgia State for, or guys they beat Alabama on?

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I honestly don’t know how people can follow college football closely and not think recruiting rankings matter. You need elite talent to win big and 5* players hit at a higher rate than any other group. Pretty simple. Go look back at ND’s 5 stars the last 20 years and it will be no different.
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But did you know J.J. Watt was a 2-star?!
 
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Irish du Nord said:
Lewis still plays for us (and has since his freshman year when we made the playoff) so he was worth his scholarship. He’s been better than some higher ranked guys at his position in the same time frame (KJ Wallace and Isaiah Rutherford were 4stars in the previous class but were behind Lewis from pretty much the moment he stepped on campus)
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I never said he wasn't worth the scholarship.

What I said was that he wasn't a plus athlete, and that was a common gripe with him especially in 2021.

The general consensus was that the final years under Kelly with Lea as the DC, the recruiting/scouting on defense wasn't particularly good. I'd say the evidence is very apparent. Todd Lyght wasn't an effective recruiter, and Joseph was more and less disappointing. Lewis wasn't recruited or scouted by Freeman or Mickens.

It's a different staff with a different recruiting/scouting philosophy.
 
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NDRock said:
I honestly don’t know how people can follow college football closely and not think recruiting rankings matter. You need elite talent to win big and 5* players hit at a higher rate than any other group. Pretty simple. Go look back at ND’s 5 stars the last 20 years and it will be no different.
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You also need to be able to scout.

Recruiting rankings matter, but they're also VERY flawed, and players consistently fall through the cracks because of how limited the resources these services have compared to the sheer number of players needed to scout per class.

Freeman isn't offering Rezac because time is running out and he's out of options. They scouted and eval'd him and determined he was worth the offer. The tape seems to back that conclusion up very thoroughly.

Also, May just started. Guys like Rezac go undetected and then the services catch wind of him and follow up with a grade that blows them up. As somebody mentioned, Hillman was very much that last year.
 
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Crazy Balki said:
You also need to be able to scout.

Recruiting rankings matter, but they're also VERY flawed, and players consistently fall through the cracks because of how limited the resources these services have compared to the sheer number of players needed to scout per class.

Freeman isn't offering Rezac because time is running out and he's out of options. They scouted and eval'd him and determined he was worth the offer. The tape seems to back that conclusion up very thoroughly.

Also, May just started. Guys like Rezac go undetected and then the services catch wind of him and follow up with a grade that blows them up. As somebody mentioned, Hillman was very much that last year.
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Offer lists > Rankings, for sure. And maybe we’re ahead of the game on offering this guy. We have been before. We shall see. Since it sure seems like he’ll be on our football team in a little bit.
 
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NDRock said:
I honestly don’t know how people can follow college football closely and not think recruiting rankings matter. You need elite talent to win big and 5* players hit at a higher rate than any other group. Pretty simple. Go look back at ND’s 5 stars the last 20 years and it will be no different.
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2021 & 2022 Texas A&M on line #1...
 
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stpeteirish said:
Maybe Loy forgot to ask this kid if he’s a PWO offer.
Seriously, that offer list is not impressive. Nebraska kid not offered by Nebraska? Concerning
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Nebraska hasn’t recruited Nebraska well for 20 years. Noah Fant and Zane Flores are just off the top of my head that never got offered, not to mention Xavier Watts choosing South Bend over Lincoln. Nebraska is a dead program
 
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