Politics

[Cackalacky2.0]

Lmao fuck you traitor.

 

[Irish#1]

People with power abusing the rules……crazy stuff………

Never heard that before.

 

[Irish#1]

People with power abusing the rules……crazy stuff………

Never heard that before.

Lmao fuck you traitor.

drop in the bucket for him.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Never heard that before.

drop in the bucket for him.

That’s your takeaway? Not the fact he got proven to be a bullshit liar traitor spreading the big lie? Interesting.

 

[sixstar]

Lindell doesn't think it's a lie. He believes it's true.
Just like you post bunk stuff here and believe it's true even when it isn't.

Do you consider yourself a liar because you promote false content?

 

[Irish#1]

That’s your takeaway? Not the fact he got proven to be a bullshit liar traitor spreading the big lie? Interesting.

Sure, why not? Everyone already knew he was a kook and a Trump butt licker. Make it hurt.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

GOP voter suppression playbook exposed. Not shocking at all.

 

[sixstar]

Eliminate the clearly biased commentary past 3:05. Focus on the facts.

What, specifically, did Cleta Mitchell says that qualifies as voter suppression?
Are you claiming that establishing an Election Integrity Task Force to ensure that voter locations are legal is voter suppression? If so, why?
Are you claiming that requiring a SSN and Birth Date on absentee ballots is voter suppression? If so, why?
Are you claiming that Mitchell suggesting that the R party figure out how to "do that and combat that" WRT on-campus engagement is voter suppression? If so, why?
Do you claim that eliminating 45 days of early voting in Virginia is voter suppression? If so, why?

Would you feel the exact same way if Rs had the advantage here and Ds were suggesting the same countermeasures?

Do you understand that both political parties are constantly looking for ways to gain advantages over each other, and that both engage in gerrymandering and planning to tip the scales for election advantages, or do you truly believe that only Rs do this?

You said you are an engineer right? Then answer logically.

 

[ulukinatme]

GOP voter suppression playbook exposed. Not shocking at all.

"No Lie" Brian Tyler Cohen.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

"No Lie" Brian Tyler Cohen.

No lie. Not a thing that woman said came out of Brian’s mouth. Lol

 

[sixstar]

No lie. Not a thing that woman said came out of Brian’s mouth. Lol

Brian said many misleading statements that expanded beyond what Mitchell actually said. But you are accusing that the GOP is suppressing voters, so let's focus on the Mitchell's statements. What, specifically, did she say that is voter suppression?

 

[ulukinatme]

No lie. Not a thing that woman said came out of Brian’s mouth. Lol

Yeah, I just think it's hilarious that a liberal propaganda account actually calls his podcast "No Lie." Gives me a good chuckle every time I see it.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Yeah, I just think it's hilarious that a liberal propaganda account actually calls his podcast "No Lie." Gives me a good chuckle every time I see it.

Sort of like an Orwellian Ministry of Truth

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Yeah, I just think it's hilarious that a liberal propaganda account actually calls his podcast "No Lie." Gives me a good chuckle every time I see it.

Lol. SMH

 

[GoIrish41]

Eliminate the clearly biased commentary past 3:05. Focus on the facts.

What, specifically, did Cleta Mitchell says that qualifies as voter suppression?
Are you claiming that establishing an Election Integrity Task Force to ensure that voter locations are legal is voter suppression? If so, why?
Are you claiming that requiring a SSN and Birth Date on absentee ballots is voter suppression? If so, why?
Are you claiming that Mitchell suggesting that the R party figure out how to "do that and combat that" WRT on-campus engagement is voter suppression? If so, why?
Do you claim that eliminating 45 days of early voting in Virginia is voter suppression? If so, why?

Would you feel the exact same way if Rs had the advantage here and Ds were suggesting the same countermeasures?

I would. Further I’d get rid of the electoral college and make it one citizen one vote and get rid of all this BS horse trading. But then again, I’m an advocate for democracy.

 

[Blazers46]

I would. Further I’d get rid of the electoral college and make it one citizen one vote and get rid of all this BS horse trading. But then again, I’m an advocate for democracy.

What is the point of having states?

 

[Bishop2b5]

I would. Further I’d get rid of the electoral college and make it one citizen one vote and get rid of all this BS horse trading. But then again, I’m an advocate for democracy.

Do you understand why our founding fathers created the electoral college? It's one of the wisest things they did when they created the US.

 

[GoIrish41]

What is the point of having states?

None

 

[GoIrish41]

Do you understand why our founding fathers created the electoral college? It's one of the wisest things they did when they created the US.

The Founding Fathers created the Electoral College system as a compromise between having the president elected by Congress and having the president elected by the popular vote of qualified citizens. So the reason, ultimately, was for the founders to maintain their power at the expense of the citizens. Genius!

 

[Blazers46]

None

100% disagree. I moved away from a heavy blue state and feel comfortable where I am. There is value in being able to move around like minded individuals with like minded policies. “If you don’t like it leave” applied to my situation so I left. If we are all the same this country will suck ass.

 

[GoIrish41]

100% disagree. I moved away from a heavy blue state and feel comfortable where I am. There is value in being able to move around like minded individuals with like minded policies. “If you don’t like it leave” applied to my situation so I left. If we are all the same this country will suck ass.

This country does suck ass.

 

[Blazers46]

This country does suck ass.

If so then the degree of ass sucking would be worse.

 

[Bishop2b5]

The Founding Fathers created the Electoral College system as a compromise between having the president elected by Congress and having the president elected by the popular vote of qualified citizens. So the reason, ultimately, was for the founders to maintain their power at the expense of the citizens. Genius!

This country does suck ass.

You have such a sad, bitter, negative view of your country. As for your answer about the electoral college, you're right, but you're leaving out a big part of its importance. Without it, no president would bother campaigning, listening to, or concerning themselves with any constituency other than the largest population cities. Rural folks, people in small towns, middle America... they and their needs would be completely ignored without the electoral college.

 

[GoIrish41]

You have such a sad, bitter, negative view of your country. As for your answer about the electoral college, you're right, but you're leaving out a big part of its importance. Without it, no president would bother campaigning, listening to, or concerning themselves with any constituency other than the largest population cities. Rural folks, people in small towns, middle America... they and their needs would be completely ignored without the electoral college.

Would they though? I don’t know of any other democracy on earth that has an electoral college. Are all of their rural citizens ignored? This sounds like an excuse to maintain the status quo that allows people with fewer votes to win elections, giving rural voters outsized power over citizens who live in more populated areas. Never mind that the compromise that created the electoral college was, by design, designed to disenfranchise minority voters while still counting them as partial people for the purpose of representation. The Republican candidates have lost nearly every popular presidential election since since the 1990s and spent more time in the WH than the candidates who got more votes. And you wonder why anyone has anything bad to say about this country? It is fundamentally flawed because of shit policies like the electoral college.

 

[GATTACA!]

You have such a sad, bitter, negative view of your country. As for your answer about the electoral college, you're right, but you're leaving out a big part of its importance. Without it, no president would bother campaigning, listening to, or concerning themselves with any constituency other than the largest population cities. Rural folks, people in small towns, middle America... they and their needs would be completely ignored without the electoral college.

It's much better now when candidates can focus on 8 swing states and completely ignore the rest of the country. Why would anyone bother campaigning in a hard red or blue state? Eliminating the electoral college could actually lead to candidates being incentivized to try and sway voters in states that they have no hope of winning a majority in. Maybe California wouldn't be a liberal hellhole if republican presidential candidates had a reason to try and sway moderates. A republican has no chance of winning California but making the vote 60/40 instead of 64/36 in 2020 would be a big deal in a state with 40 million people. Same story in a red state like Tennessee.

The electoral college made sense when news traveled by horseback and people were voting for candidates no one in their town had ever heard of. Those circumstances have obviously changed and so should the way we elect presidents. People in bumfuck Wyoming shouldn't get the weight of 2.97 votes per person just because no one lives there, same with Vermonters getting 2.42 votes per person because it's too small to hold many people.

The electoral college also suppresses votes. Something no one should want. Unless you live in a swing state you're vote in a presidential election is meaningless. Many states have voted for the same party since 1964. Why bother going out to the polls in these places?

 

[Bishop2b5]

It's much better now when candidates can focus on 8 swing states and completely ignore the rest of the country. Why would anyone bother campaigning in a hard red or blue state? Eliminating the electoral college could actually lead to candidates being incentivized to try and sway voters in states that they have no hope of winning a majority in. Maybe California wouldn't be a liberal hellhole if republican presidential candidates had a reason to try and sway moderates. A republican has no chance of winning California but making the vote 60/40 instead of 64/36 in 2020 would be a big deal in a state with 40 million people. Same story in a red state like Tennessee.

The electoral college made sense when news traveled by horseback and people were voting for candidates no one in their town had ever heard of. Those circumstances have obviously changed and so should the way we elect presidents. People in bumfuck Wyoming shouldn't get the weight of 2.97 votes per person just because no one lives there, same with Vermonters getting 2.42 votes per person because it's too small to hold many people.

The electoral college also suppresses votes. Something no one should want. Unless you live in a swing state you're vote in a presidential election is meaningless. Many states have voted for the same party since 1964. Why bother going out to the polls in these places?

You make some valid points that are worth considering.

 

[Blazers46]

Would they though? I don’t know of any other democracy on earth that has an electoral college. Are all of their rural citizens ignored? This sounds like an excuse to maintain the status quo that allows people with fewer votes to win elections, giving rural voters outsized power over citizens who live in more populated areas. Never mind that the compromise that created the electoral college was, by design, designed to disenfranchise minority voters while still counting them as partial people for the purpose of representation. The Republican candidates have lost nearly every popular presidential election since since the 1990s and spent more time in the WH than the candidates who got more votes. And you wonder why anyone has anything bad to say about this country? It is fundamentally flawed because of shit policies like the electoral college.

I’ll say the quiet part out loud. You don’t like it because it didn’t work for you a few times. Your candidate lost and you are sour about it. If reversed blah blah blah, you know my point.

 

[GoIrish41]

I’ll say the quiet part out loud. You don’t like it because it didn’t work for you a few times. Your candidate lost and you are sour about it. If reversed blah blah blah, you know my point.

My candidate is the president. It “worked out for me” just fine. The guy who got the most votes won. I don’t like the EC because it’s an artificial structure that prevents the will of the majority from being realized. It prevents any real long term progress because every few election cycles the losers win anyway and make changes that move the country backward … examples: climate change, gun violence, education funding, tax policy favoring the wealthy, regulation of industry, wage suppression, erosion of programs designed to help the poor, etc., which is to say nothing about book burning, draconian immigration policy, removing the right to choose from women. I’m gonna say the loud part out loud. Republicans have been a progressively regressive party since the Nixon administration, which pretty much covers my entire lifetime. Republicans have won the popular vote exactly once since 1992 (2004) and yet held the WH 16 years. Quite the beacon of democracy. 😏

 

[Blazers46]

My candidate is the president. It “worked out for me” just fine. The guy who got the most votes won. I don’t like the EC because it’s an artificial structure that prevents the will of the majority from being realized. It prevents any real long term progress because every few election cycles the losers win anyway and make changes that move the country backward … examples: climate change, gun violence, education funding, tax policy favoring the wealthy, regulation of industry, wage suppression, erosion of programs designed to help the poor, etc., which is to say nothing about book burning, draconian immigration policy, removing the right to choose from women. I’m gonna say the loud part out loud. Republicans have been a progressively regressive party since the Nixon administration, which pretty much covers my entire lifetime. Republicans have won the popular vote exactly once since 1992 (2004) and yet held the WH 16 years. Quite the beacon of democracy. 😏

I think you are proving my point. And we are a constitutional republic not a democracy for what it’s worth.

 

[GoIrish41]

I think you are proving my point. And we are a constitutional republic not a democracy for what it’s worth.

It’s not worth much. I’m not sure what your point is, other than you are cool with losers being named the winners. 🤷‍♂️