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Georgetown was John Thompson. Anything they had probably isn't coming back, especially with NIL and all this realignment. 2021 was an absolute fluke for them.

I could be biased here, but I have to think ND is a better job being in the ACC.
 
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NDPhilly said:
All Georgetown needs to do is get a few elite kids from the DMV every year to be a top 25 program. It’s a much higher ceiling job than Providence.
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Cooley is definitely getting out at the right time regardless of where he's going. He had the two down Covid years and then had back to back 20+ win seasons. Time to roll.

I am really set on ND getting Shrewsberry somehow. I am going to be let down aren't I?
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
Cooley is definitely getting out at the right time regardless of where he's going. He had the two down Covid years and then had back to back 20+ win seasons. Time to roll.

I am really set on ND getting Shrewsberry somehow. I am going to be let down aren't I?
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Oh you can book it.


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Irish14 said:
If Wichita St doesn’t gobble him up. I have a bad feeling it’s gonna be Langel.


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Not if Langel is going to Temple.

What's the deal with Sweeney with the Mavs?
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
Not if Langel is going to Temple.

What's the deal with Sweeney with the Mavs?
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Don’t think there’s been any real connection there for the job. He’s a big fan of the football team and has a house in SB so people linked him there when Brey first announced. He interviewed for an assistant coaching position last year but I haven’t seen anything concrete linking him to the head coaching gig.


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FWIW. I don’t know who this source is. Just sharing cause it popped on my timeline.


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Prister reiterated an hour ago Shrewsbury, Devries, and Langel
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Tell him to actually report stuff we don’t already know. The dude reported a few weeks ago that we were still looking for a coach. Thanks Tim!


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FWIW. I don’t know who this source is. Just sharing cause it popped on my timeline.


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I don't see it. PSU and ND can substantially outbid PC, and have better resources. The only advantage PC has is that MBB is the #1 dog there while it's essentially an afterthought at PSU and ND. I realize he has ties to Stevens, but Stevens isn't going to be his boss, and ultimately I don't get the impression their relationship would be damaged by Shrewsberry saying "thanks, but I think my opportunity at spot x is a better short and long term fit at this point in my coaching career."

But there's also now a question of how much is ND willing to spend? If the $6 million per that's being reported for Cooley is accurate, you have to think Shrews is going to cost somewhere north of $4 million (that Cooley number is insane, fwiw). I'm not sure ND is willing to go there for what is ultimately a second-tier position in the athletics hierarchy at the university. Brey was only making about $2.5 million, and even Moser at OU is only making $2.8. If push comes to shove, it's hard to justify $5 million to Shrews when you can pay Moser's buyout, give him a contract for 5 years at $3-3.5 million per, and still have less committed to Moser than you would Shrewsberry.

One somewhat unrelated I have is whether Shrews has any ties to ND from his days coaching at IUSB. I have to imagine he would have met Brey at some point, but I can't find anything that suggests they remained in contact over the years.
 
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I don't see it. PSU and ND can substantially outbid PC, and have better resources. The only advantage PC has is that MBB is the #1 dog there while it's essentially an afterthought at PSU and ND. I realize he has ties to Stevens, but Stevens isn't going to be his boss, and ultimately I don't get the impression their relationship would be damaged by Shrewsberry saying "thanks, but I think my opportunity at spot x is a better short and long term fit at this point in my coaching career." But there's also now a question of how much is ND willing to spend? If the $6 million per that's being reported for Cooley is accurate, you have to think Shrews is going to cost somewhere near that. I'm not sure ND is willing to go there for what is ultimately a second-tier position in the athletics hierarchy at the university.

One of the questions I have is whether Shrews has any ties to ND from his days coaching at IUSB. I have to imagine he would have met Brey at some point, but I can't find anything that suggests they remained in contact over the years.
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U think Shrewsberry is gonna cost near the same as Cooley? That’s quite the take.


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Irish14 said:
He might be around half that per year.


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I think he's looking at closer to $4 million per, to be honest. He's already making north of $2 million, and now it's clear his services are in demand by multiple schools. I have a hard time believing a "long term, lucrative" extension as was reported was being prepared by PSU would be substantial enough at $3 million to scare off other suitors.
 
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I think he's looking at closer to $4 million per, to be honest. He's already making north of $2 million, and now it's clear his services are in demand by multiple schools. I have a hard time believing a "long term, lucrative" extension as was reported was being prepared by PSU would be substantial enough at $3 million to scare off other suitors.
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Could be right but I just don’t see him making $4 mill considering there’s only about 10 coaches who are currently making 4+.


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Could be right but I just don’t see him making $4 mill considering there’s only about 10 coaches who are currently making 4+.


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Generally I'd agree, but there are 4 schools from major basketball conferences (meaning the power 5 plus Big East) in need of a coach (taking SJU out of it since it sounds like Pitino is going to be the guy, but adding Texas Tech despite the fact I doubt he would go there), and I'd guess he's the most in-demand of the current batch of candidates. I'm not sure it's a great move to spend that on him...but I don't know how rational the MBB coaching market actually is. Like I said, Cooley at $6 million seems insane to me, but maybe that's a reflection of a raise plus the added cost of living in the DMV area as compared to RI.
 
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Generally I'd agree, but there are 4 schools from major basketball conferences (meaning the power 5 plus Big East) in need of a coach (taking SJU out of it since it sounds like Pitino is going to be the guy, but adding Texas Tech despite the fact I doubt he would go there), and I'd guess he's the most in-demand of the current batch of candidates. I'm not sure it's a great move to spend that on him...but I don't know how rational the MBB coaching market actually is. Like I said, Cooley at $6 million seems insane to me, but maybe that's a reflection of a raise plus the added cost of living in the DMV area as compared to RI.
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Yeah u could very well be right and he gets that much but it won’t be from ND. I’d have to think the only place that would is prolly PSU which IMO would be crazy of them.


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If the Big 12 expansion rumors fall through (taking Nova, St Johns, & UCONN for basketball only), then man will this Big East be fun.
 
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