Politics

[drayer54]

Good grief. This is one of the most dishonest and misleading articles and takes I've seen in a while. The bill does no such thing. It doesn't infringe on anyone's right to marry, let alone stop interfaith or interracial marriages. It simply allows someone to refuse to perform a marriage if it violates that person's religious or personal beliefs. Why do some of you insist on misrepresenting everything? Are your views so wrong that the truth must be avoided at all costs? Never mind. We know that answer.

Because they can label everything they don’t like as fascism.

 

[GATTACA!]

It doesn't infringe on anyone's right to marry, let alone stop interfaith or interracial marriages.

If the clerk decides that it's against their religion this law would allow that no?

If you have a job working for the government and your religion stops you from being able to carry out the duties of your job it's time to find new employment. If there were muslim clerks refusing to certify christian couples marriages or gay clerks refusing to certify straight marriages do you think they would be passing laws to protect their right to discriminate? Lol

 

[Bishop2b5]

If the clerk decides that it's against their religion this law would allow that no?

If you have a job working for the government and your religion stops you from being able to carry out the duties of your job it's time to find new employment. If there were muslim clerks refusing to certify christian couples marriages or gay clerks refusing to certify straight marriages do you think they would be passing laws to protect their right to discriminate? Lol

The proposed Tennessee bill, despite what its opponents are claiming, doesn't appear to cover clerks and the issuance of marriage licenses. It only mentions the solemnization of marriages, which is the ceremony uniting two people in marriage. It appears that it only applies to someone like a minister or official, allowing them to refuse to perform a marriage ceremony that violates their beliefs.

Even if it covered clerks issuing licenses, that would still be legal. There's no Federal law forcing states to issue marriage licenses to, e.g., gay couples or to marry them, only to legally recognize such marriages if performed in a state where they are legal.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

If the clerk decides that it's against their religion this law would allow that no?

If you have a job working for the government and your religion stops you from being able to carry out the duties of your job it's time to find new employment. If there were muslim clerks refusing to certify christian couples marriages or gay clerks refusing to certify straight marriages do you think they would be passing laws to protect their right to discriminate? Lol

That’s exactly the point. This job WILL.NEVER be held by anyone who isn’t white or Christian.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

The antiwoke platform will not be successful it seems.

A GOP war on 'woke'? Most Americans view the term as a positive, USA TODAY/Ipsos Poll finds

By 56%-39%, Americans say 'woke' means being aware of social injustice, not being overly politically correct.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Irish#1]

The proposed Tennessee bill, despite what its opponents are claiming, doesn't appear to cover clerks and the issuance of marriage licenses. It only mentions the solemnization of marriages, which is the ceremony uniting two people in marriage. It appears that it only applies to someone like a minister or official, allowing them to refuse to perform a marriage ceremony that violates their beliefs.

Even if it covered clerks issuing licenses, that would still be legal. There's no Federal law forcing states to issue marriage licenses to, e.g., gay couples or to marry them, only to legally recognize such marriages if performed in a state where they are legal.

Regardless of how the proposed bill reads or its intentions, it doesn't matter. The headline was written to imply something else and that's all you need to know.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Regardless of how the proposed bill reads or its intentions, it doesn't matter. The headline was written to imply something else and that's all you need to know.

Hear no evil speak no evil something something

 

[Irish#1]

Looks like Mitch might want to think about retiring.

Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell is being treated for a concussion after a fall

McConnell, 81, will remain in the hospital “for a few days,” a spokesman said, after he tripped at a D.C. hotel after an event for the Senate Leadership Fund on Wednesday night.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Irish#1]

Hear no evil speak no evil something something

Monkey see, Monkey do.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

The number of voters and state of the economy don't seem particularly relevant here but the rest, of course.

I was showing how small a percentage of Trump voters are nutjobs in comparison to the majority.

 

[NorthDakota]

That’s exactly the point. This job WILL.NEVER be held by anyone who isn’t white or Christian.

This is almost certainly wrong lol.

EDIT: Yep, Cack was wrong. I see that the judges of the United States Courts can solemnize marriage in Tennessee. I know we got several non-Christian and non-white people on SCOTUS. Take the L. You fell for clickbait.

36-3-301. Persons who may solemnize marriages.



(a) (1) All regular ministers, preachers, pastors, priests, rabbis and other spiritual leaders of every religious belief, more than eighteen (18) years of age, having the care of souls, and all members of the county legislative bodies, county mayors, judges, chancellors, former chancellors and former judges of this state, former county executives or county mayors of this state, former members of quarterly county courts or county commissions, the governor, the speaker of the senate and former speakers of the senate, the speaker of the house of representatives and former speakers of the house of representatives, the county clerk of each county and the mayor of any municipality in the state may solemnize the rite of matrimony. For the purposes of this section, the several judges of the United States courts, including United States magistrates and United States bankruptcy judges, who are citizens of Tennessee are deemed to be judges of this state.

 

[Armyirish47]

The last time I saw anyone work this hard to deny an obvious truth...

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Lol, a meme? Oh how the high horsers have fallen.

 

[NorthDakota]

If the clerk decides that it's against their religion this law would allow that no?

If you have a job working for the government and your religion stops you from being able to carry out the duties of your job it's time to find new employment. If there were muslim clerks refusing to certify christian couples marriages or gay clerks refusing to certify straight marriages do you think they would be passing laws to protect their right to discriminate? Lol

Look at this laundry list of public officials you are saying MUST marry people or find a new job. Hell, it applies to people who no longer even work for the government lmaoooo.

36-3-301. Persons who may solemnize marriages.

(a) (1) All regular ministers, preachers, pastors, priests, rabbis and other spiritual leaders of every religious belief, more than eighteen (18) years of age, having the care of souls, and all members of the county legislative bodies, county mayors, judges, chancellors, former chancellors and former judges of this state, former county executives or county mayors of this state, former members of quarterly county courts or county commissions, the governor, the speaker of the senate and former speakers of the senate, the speaker of the house of representatives and former speakers of the house of representatives, the county clerk of each county and the mayor of any municipality in the state may solemnize the rite of matrimony. For the purposes of this section, the several judges of the United States courts, including United States magistrates and United States bankruptcy judges, who are citizens of Tennessee are deemed to be judges of this state.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Lauren Boebert is going to be a grandmother next month. At 36 years of age.

I'd like to hear Deion Sanders' commentary on this.

 

[TorontoGold]

I think ascribing political ideas to a large brick and motor store shutting down a location or two is a convenient way for people to put their own spin on it. Large box office locations are moving out of cities all over the place. For reference, Toronto's worst neighborhood has an Audi/Benz dealership in it. They certainly experience theft/vandalism at higher rates than other dealerships but if they were to close it would be over a business decision rather than political motive.

Specifically to Portland - this article is stating that the police budget is back up to higher rates than it was in 2020, so if we're going to say defunding the police is contributing then it would have to be related to the 2021 budget decrease.

Portland records its 93rd homicide in 2022, a new all-time high

Portland breezed past last year’s record 92 homicides and planted a new flag on Nov. 23 when the city recorded its 93rd homicide of the year. The 93 deaths include four people who were shot by Portland police and a man killed by a Clackamas County Sheriff's Office deputy during a pursuit into...

www.opb.org

When I look at the crime data for Portland - there was 5,573 offenses is Jan 2018 and 5,883 in Jan 2023. Which is a 5.5% increase in gross offenses. Based on these population trend, it seems like Portland averages an increase of around 1% in pop growth. So basically it seems like crime rates appear to be increasing at comparable population increases. The data does show a spike in crime in 2021, but did Wal Mart shutdown their stores in 2021? No, they didn't.

https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/portlandpolicebureau/viz/New_Monthly_Neighborhood/MonthlyOffenseTotals

Portland Metro Area Population (1950-2026) | MacroTrends

Chart and table of population level and growth rate for the Portland metro area from 1950 to 2026.

www.macrotrends.net

So what has significantly changed in the past 5 years in Wal Mart's ecospace? The prominence of online selling and reduction of store space. I think it's easier to explain that Wal Mart is shutting these locations down to accommodate for those shifts.

If you look at their annual report, they have been consistently decreasing their retail square feet metrics. Unfortunately we can't see what their inventory provision stats look like or shrinkage to see what $ of theft is happening.

https://www.corporatereport.com/walmart/2022/ar/Walmart_2022_Annual_Report.pdf

 

[Sea Turtle]

Solemnize? Sounds pretty gay.

 

[NorthDakota]

Lauren Boebert is going to be a grandmother next month. At 36 years of age.

I'd like to hear Deion Sanders' commentary on this.

Baby is gonna have his first offer before he leaves the hospital

 

[GATTACA!]

Look at this laundry list of public officials you are saying MUST marry people or find a new job. Hell, it applies to people who no longer even work for the government lmaoooo.

36-3-301. Persons who may solemnize marriages.

(a) (1) All regular ministers, preachers, pastors, priests, rabbis and other spiritual leaders of every religious belief, more than eighteen (18) years of age, having the care of souls, and all members of the county legislative bodies, county mayors, judges, chancellors, former chancellors and former judges of this state, former county executives or county mayors of this state, former members of quarterly county courts or county commissions, the governor, the speaker of the senate and former speakers of the senate, the speaker of the house of representatives and former speakers of the house of representatives, the county clerk of each county and the mayor of any municipality in the state may solemnize the rite of matrimony. For the purposes of this section, the several judges of the United States courts, including United States magistrates and United States bankruptcy judges, who are citizens of Tennessee are deemed to be judges of this state.

I said certify not solemnize. I’m talking about clerks who issue marriage certificates not officiants who marry people. I don’t think officiating wedding ceremonies is in the day to day job description of the speaker of the house.

 

[NorthDakota]

I said certify not solemnize. I’m talking about clerks who issue marriage certificates not officiants who marry people. I don’t think officiating wedding ceremonies is in the day to day job description of the speaker of the house.

The law in question concerns solemnizing, not certifying. So all this bill seems to do is expressly authorize civil servants, elected officials, judges, etc. to say "no."

I dont know what their rules are for certifying or whatever are. I believe there was a court case on that subject several years ago.

 

[Bishop2b5]

The Tennessee House Just Passed a Bill Completely Gutting Marriage Equality

The bill could allow county clerks to deny marriage licenses to same-sex, interfaith, or interracial couples in Tennessee.

newrepublic.com

Interfaith and interracial. Bigots.

That’s exactly the point. This job WILL.NEVER be held by anyone who isn’t white or Christian.

This is almost certainly wrong lol.

EDIT: Yep, Cack was wrong. I see that the judges of the United States Courts can solemnize marriage in Tennessee. I know we got several non-Christian and non-white people on SCOTUS. Take the L. You fell for clickbait.

Hard to understand what ever prompted me to call Cack the most gullible, easily led, politically naive person on IE.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I said certify not solemnize. I’m talking about clerks who issue marriage certificates not officiants who marry people. I don’t think officiating wedding ceremonies is in the day to day job description of the speaker of the house.

The bill in question doesn't mention anything about allowing clerks to deny a marriage license, and there's nothing in the bill to suggest such.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders backs Arkansas legislation requiring age verification for social media

Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders will make an announcement on legislation Thursday afternoon.

wreg.com

"Mom, can we go to the bank to cash my check? Also, can I please have an Instagram account?"

FFS

 

[NorthDakota]

Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders backs Arkansas legislation requiring age verification for social media

Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders will make an announcement on legislation Thursday afternoon.

wreg.com

"Mom, can we go to the bank to cash my check? Also, can I please have an Instagram account?"

FFS

I didn't need permission to work at 15. Or need a ride to cash my check. Seems kinda weird that kids had to jump through an extra hoop of getting a certificate from the State.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Now watch a "select few" spin this as "Republicans Want To Bring Back Child Labor!" and force 4th graders to work in coal mines, as opposed to the reality of it just making it a little easier for a 15-year-old to get their first job flipping burgers.

 

[Sea Turtle]

I had to get a note from school stating that I could work at 15.

 

[ab2cmiller]

I had to get a note from school stating that I could work at 15.

I think that’s how it is in Indiana

 

[NorthDakota]

That's very strange. Needing permission from a school administrator in order to legally have a job?

I could see requiring parent/guardian permission hypothetically. But still... weird

 

[ab2cmiller]

Looks like Indiana changed the rules in 2021 and no longer require a work permit. There are reporting requirements for employers that employ a certain amount of employees who are less than 16 years old.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Now watch a "select few" spin this as "Republicans Want To Bring Back Child Labor!" and force 4th graders to work in coal mines, as opposed to the reality of it just making it a little easier for a 15-year-old to get their first job flipping burgers.

Stop being stereotypical. At 14 I was bagging groceries, not flipping burgers.