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Ideal situation is the bears to end up with the #2 pick, trade back in 2023, and get hopefully a #1 in 2024 from someone so they can be in position to either move up, or draft for Marvin Harrison Jr.

I also disagree on the Montgomery take. Guy would flourish in an offense that had a consistent offensive line. I hope he stays around honestly. He runs hard as hell.
 

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Ideal situation is the bears to end up with the #2 pick, trade back in 2023, and get hopefully a #1 in 2024 from someone so they can be in position to either move up, or draft for Marvin Harrison Jr.

I also disagree on the Montgomery take. Guy would flourish in an offense that had a consistent offensive line. I hope he stays around honestly. He runs hard as hell.
I like Montgomery. Fact remains, he's 25 years old and coming up on 900 carries for his career in the NFL. This is year four of a four year contract and he becomes an UFA after this year. He was drafted by the previous regime.

If they feel he's the guy they want around when they plan on being good, fine, but it doesn't seem like they're going to extend him and that is completely not worth sweating at this point.

Now if they want to resign him versus doing something stupid and giving Barkley all kinds of money, that's a different conversation, but I would not throw money at a position like RB when this team needs literally everything else and RB isn't a premium position any longer.
 

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Best possible result:

Played hard.
Young guys played well and continued to cement their future status with team (Fields mostly).
Lost the game.
 

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It's weird to be optimistic about the Bears future. I suppose this is putting a lot of faith that Poles can find receivers for Fields.
 

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It's weird to be optimistic about the Bears future. I suppose this is putting a lot of faith that Poles can find receivers for Fields.
They finally have a QB to build around. It's what we've been waiting for.
 

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Eagles fan here - I don't really get what you guys see with Fields. Yes he can run, but he didnt make a single NFL level throw all game and took a bunch of big sacks.
 

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Eagles fan here - I don't really get what you guys see with Fields. Yes he can run, but he didnt make a single NFL level throw all game and took a bunch of big sacks.
He's not Mitch Trubisky, Jay Cutler, Kyle Orton or Rex Grossman, so he's got that going for him lol
 

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Eagles fan here - I don't really get what you guys see with Fields. Yes he can run, but he didnt make a single NFL level throw all game and took a bunch of big sacks.
Even if what you're saying is accurate, the sample size of the last several weeks leading up to the game yesterday has been remarkably positive in terms of the progress he's making as a passer. His OL is complete shit and he's surrounded by replacement level players.

I think he used 7 different receivers yesterday, and the majority of them are replacement level players, didn't throw any picks and came in with a rating of 119.5.

He can't run forever and he knows he can't run forever, something he said yesterday after the game. The "it" is there. They just need to put the pieces around him.
 

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I'm not sure Fields' sophomore season is much different than Hurts' was. Get him some receivers and he'll look a helluva lot better next year.
 

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I'm not sure Fields' sophomore season is much different than Hurts' was. Get him some receivers and he'll look a helluva lot better next year.
And an OL. And a defense to compliment him when he doesn't have the ball.
 

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Very fair - forget how depleted the Bears WRs are. Fields 100% has better physical tools than Jalen, who is a MVP candidate despite having below average arm talent. Jalen took a step forward that no one expected, even the Eagles from office. The Eagles were looking at Russell Wilson in the offseason and went to Pickett's pro day.
 

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Fields doesn't get the credit he deserves for his ability to make something out of absolutely nothing.

He was sacked 6 times and had it been pretty much any other QB, that number would've likely hit double digits. His pocket awareness is remarkable. He just knows how to evade pressure and get around to make plays. He's Mahomes-esque in terms of making plays when everything breaks down and not being hindered when he doesn't have time to make a mechanically sound throw.

Reality is that Fields went up against one of the best defenses in the league, with an OL that was injury plagued and consistently imitates a sieve, while throwing to a bunch of nobodies.
 

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Eagles fan here - I don't really get what you guys see with Fields. Yes he can run, but he didnt make a single NFL level throw all game and took a bunch of big sacks.
Did you see what the bears were running out there at OL and WR yesterday, enough said, and you only beat us by 5, i'd be more concerned with how bad your team looked against a team of practice squad guys in the bears.
 

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Eagles fan here - I don't really get what you guys see with Fields. Yes he can run, but he didnt make a single NFL level throw all game and took a bunch of big sacks.
Lol he has an awful Oline and WRs. Once they can get him a couple of WRs and a decent Oline lookout
 

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Address Oline and and Dline with Cap money.
Trade the 2nd pick back to Indy, Carolina, or ATL and get a receiver like Johnson and draft capital for 23 and 24.

Velus Jones and Kyler Gordon are busts. I know Gordon has a pick yesterday but he ranks 156/160 PFF. Just is slow out there. Ran a 4.52 out at the combine. Imagine having a real wide Receiver 1 and 2 and Mooney and Claypool at 3/4
 

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If Hurts can make it in the league, I have no doubt Fields can. I'm interested to see how they spend all these salary cap and draft capital this off season. The North is wide open now with Green Bay on the decline.
 

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I'd continue the tank... trade down a bit and select the kid from Nothwestern and maybe Patterson in the 3rd or 4th round. Second pick should be a stud NT or WR and work the free agent market... don't play the cheap game. As Coach Gibbs once stated, it starts with the hogs up front, build the OL.
 

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I'd continue the tank... trade down a bit and select the kid from Nothwestern and maybe Patterson in the 3rd or 4th round. Second pick should be a stud NT or WR and work the free agent market... don't play the cheap game. As Coach Gibbs once stated, it starts with the hogs up front, build the OL.
So still no WR1 or 2. I'm addressing that issue at the top of the draft. Weak Free agent WR class. They can sign and draft some value guys on the Oline. This franchise doesn't know what a WR1 looks like. Outside of Alshon Jeffery for a few years the Chicago Bears have never had one
 

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So still no WR1 or 2. I'm addressing that issue at the top of the draft. Weak Free agent WR class. They can sign and draft some value guys on the Oline. This franchise doesn't know what a WR1 looks like. Outside of Alshon Jeffery for a few years the Chicago Bears have never had one
I don't think it's that great of a wr draft class either.
 

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Arahop… I understand your point but if they draft a WR1 and WR2 , would it truly matter if Fields is constantly running for his life, no time to allow plays to form, collapsing pocket constantly, cracks for the RB’s to run through etc…This OL is a patchwork of an epic failed project.
 

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I don't think it's that great of a wr draft class either.
Not really. JSN from Ohio State might still be considered the top guy and he's been hurt all year, and in this draft he could fall out of the Top 10. There's Hyatt and Tillman from Tennessee, but you can get them mid to late first probably.

They need everything. It is hard to criticize them no matter what they do in that respect.

Very possible they consider trading down.
 

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Does the NFL public seem concerned about Josh Allen runs around in comparison to how no one thinks Josh Fields can run around forever?

Josh Allen doesn't get the same concerns about his mobility and some of the massive hits that dude has taken over the years he's been in The League. I really do find that curious.
 

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Does the NFL public seem concerned about Josh Allen runs around in comparison to how no one thinks Josh Fields can run around forever?

Josh Allen doesn't get the same concerns about his mobility and some of the massive hits that dude has taken over the years he's been in The League. I really do find that curious.
Josh is a real big strong guy. I agree it's not ideal for ur QB to be taking hits but if I had to choose which guy is more likely to get up I'm picking Allen
 

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Josh is a real big strong guy. I agree it's not ideal for ur QB to be taking hits but if I had to choose which guy is more likely to get up I'm picking Allen
You don't have to choose, but evidently, people are choosing to make it a problem for one guy and a problem for another. Measurables not really being a factor.

There's taking hits and taking unnecessary hits. Knowing when to get out of bounds, slide, etc.

Allen also plays for a better team, which I think has quite a bit to do with how he's viewed publicly as a player vs Fields.
 

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You don't have to choose, but evidently, people are choosing to make it a problem for one guy and a problem for another. Measurables not really being a factor.

There's taking hits and taking unnecessary hits. Knowing when to get out of bounds, slide, etc.

Allen also plays for a better team, which I think has quite a bit to do with how he's viewed publicly as a player vs Fields.
must be personal for ya.

I think when you see fields running for his life the entire game and Allen only doing it here and there it def. changes the perception and likelihood.

You certainly dont have to choose, its a hypothetical. Ya know to provoke thought on a message board.
 
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