Russia Invades Ukraine

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This is what the US stands for, stopping the fiancé of Jamal Khashoggi from suing a TRUE dictator, Mohammed Bin Salman, for his kidnapping, torture and murder of Khashoggi. But, yes, they are just trying to bring freedom to the people Ukraine, nothing else to see here. They are truly benevolent and didnt do anything to cause or drag out this despicable situation. And of course they call out Putin as a dictator as they are trying to get better relationships with The Kingdom.
 

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I’ll take bets from anybody in this thread who thinks this will be over by winter or even in the next year. I’ll donate my winnings to organizations that actually help people and spread freedom that doesn’t include pointing weapons at each other. You know the only way to create peace. Seriously anyone want to put their money where their brainwashed war mongering mouths are?
For some peace loving hippy I haven't seen you condemn russias illegal invasion of Ukraine that has killed thousands of women and children in Ukraine.
 

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This is what the US stands for, stopping the fiancé of Jamal Khashoggi from suing a TRUE dictator, Mohammed Bin Salman, for his kidnapping, torture and murder of Khashoggi. But, yes, they are just trying to bring freedom to the people Ukraine, nothing else to see here. They are truly benevolent and didnt do anything to cause or drag out this despicable situation. And of course they call out Putin as a dictator as they are trying to get better relationships with The Kingdom.

Saudi Arabia or Iran. Pick one. I know which one I am.
 
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Saudi Arabia or Iran. Pick one. I know which one I am.
Which one, the one that actually lets its people vote or the one that doesn't, is it the one that actually has women's rights and lets them go to school and vote or the one that doesn't. Maybe its the one ruled by an authoritarian theocracy, oh thats both. By the way I pick neither and its not just a zero sum game. There are more than 2 options.
 
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Which one the one that actually lets its people vote or the one that doesn't, is it the one that actually has women's rights and lets them go to school and vote or the one that doesn't. Maybe its the one ruled by an authoritarian theocracy, oh thats both. By the way I pick neither and its not just a zero sum game. There are more than 2 options.

One is bad. The other is worse and a sworn enemy of ours and our allies. We had to choose between Germany and the Soviet Union in WW2. Ugly and uglier.
 

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For some peace loving hippy I haven't seen you condemn russias illegal invasion of Ukraine that has killed thousands of women and children in Ukraine.
I have condemned it but I don't think Russia or Putin cares about my opinion. Also I am not a hippy but thanks for the assumption. I am for peace and people not killing each other and I can look at the facts and not fall for idiotic propaganda that has been used to make excuses for us to invade what 10+ countries and arm how many other countless countries since WWII in which not a single time were we there to spread freedom. Right now we are encouraging Ukrainians to die not for freedom but to enrich the Oligarchs. I am sorry you were not taught the skills to see through blatant war mongering. At every step where there could have been peace the west, specifically Britain and the US, have interfered to prevent it. I again am sorry that you don't seem to understand that and for some reason believe that more death and destruction is the way out of this. That will cause nothing but more death and destruction. Peace be with you and I practice the teachings of Jesus Christ. If you think he was a hippy I guess I shouldn't take it as the insult you were trying to throw out.
 
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One is bad. The other is worse and a sworn enemy of ours and our allies. We had to choose between Germany and the Soviet Union in WW2. Ugly and uglier.
Please explain to me why Iran is worse than Saudi Arabia? I can’t wait to hear your imperialist talking points.
 

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Never knew so many Irish fans worshiped the god of war. Never realized how many Irish fans just fall in line for death and destruction. Thought you guys would be more aware and have critical thinking skills. My bad for assuming. I’m going to keep posting articles and pod casts discussing this topic but I’ll stop directly responding to any of you. Thought you guys would see more nuance in the situation. Peace be with you all.
 

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Please explain to me why Iran is worse than Saudi Arabia? I can’t wait to hear your imperialist talking points.

Iran calls us their number 1 enemy and the great Satan while spreading terrorist militias to harass our allies in the region.

Saudi Arabia, warts and all, is our ally and wants us as an ally against Iran, who we have had no diplomatic relations with since 1979.

And you're asking me why Iran is worse for us to back and support in the region?
 

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One is bad. The other is worse and a sworn enemy of ours and our allies. We had to choose between Germany and the Soviet Union in WW2. Ugly and uglier.
A discussion for another time and place, but I'm not convinced we made the right choice there. Yeah, I get that Britain is "family" and was at war against Germany, so we really had to take Britain's side and fight Germany, and the USSR was the enemy of my enemy, so... However, as bad as Nazi Germany was, the USSR was even worse in almost every way.
 

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My bad, as you stated, I just thought it had become the default place for all members at this point. I thought it was the place for arbitration on difference of opinions for the board but with fisticuffs. lol
Depends on who you piss off. You could have a match with SeekNDestroy or me. Fight cards are pretty full for a few weeks. But I can squeeze a couple of you in on the undercard. Lol
 

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Never knew so many Irish fans worshiped the god of war. Never realized how many Irish fans just fall in line for death and destruction. Thought you guys would be more aware and have critical thinking skills. My bad for assuming. I’m going to keep posting articles and pod casts discussing this topic but I’ll stop directly responding to any of you. Thought you guys would see more nuance in the situation. Peace be with you all.
Really you don’t have to in our account. why bother if you are just screaming into the wind. Better place for your efforts is NewsMax or Oan forums.
 

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Iran calls us their number 1 enemy and the great Satan while spreading terrorist militias to harass our allies in the region.

Saudi Arabia, warts and all, is our ally and wants us as an ally against Iran, who we have had no diplomatic relations with since 1979.

And you're asking me why Iran is worse for us to back and support in the region?
The only reason Iran calls us their number 1 enemy is because of the actions of the US towards their country and US’s support of Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians. We have not had diplomatic ties since 1979 because the Iranians over threw the the US installed Shaw and the US has had a hissy fit ever since. I thought you Ukraine supporters stood for countries to determine their own destiny. You seem to contradict yourselves. Al Qaida and Daesh were formed with the support of the Saudi Arabian govt and were backed by the CIA at their inception.
 
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Feed said they are abandoned tanks. I can’t see Russia retreating and leaving all of those tanks behind.
Omg you guys. It’s a fucking joke. Like when all those Ukranian tractors were towing away all the Russian equipment. That was the harvest. Haha

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Iran calls us their number 1 enemy and the great Satan while spreading terrorist militias to harass our allies in the region.

Saudi Arabia, warts and all, is our ally and wants us as an ally against Iran, who we have had no diplomatic relations with since 1979.

And you're asking me why Iran is worse for us to back and support in the region?
This is just a real poor reading of history.

The US overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran and installed a dictator to maintain control over the countries natural resources which said democratically elected leader said he wanted to nationalize. So there’s that.

The US then went all in with another dictator who used chemical weapons (while the US looked the other way) against Iran in a war said dictator initiated. That war wiped out an entire generation of Iranians.

Meanwhile, the largest terrorist attack on the US was perpetrated largely by Saudis, backed by Saudi money.

Who offered the US help to hunt down Bin Laden immediately after 911? Iran

Isis? Saudi bank rolled. Who helped dismantle Isis in Iraq? Iran.

Who were the assholes running around Europe shooting people at public events? Isis militants backed by Saudi money.

Iran is interested in developing, maintaining and controlling its sphere of political influence in the Middle East.

The Saudis are interested in exporting the off the wall religious fanaticism that leads to terrorist attacks globally.

With friends like that…
 
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No wonder Russia isn't winning this war. Hard to fight when you've got a boner. I apologize in advance if the term boner was found to be offensive to anyone.
 

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No wonder Russia isn't winning this war. Hard to fight when you've got a boner. I apologize in advance if the term boner was found to be offensive to anyone.
I felt assaulted. It's like you were literally raping me with your words. Now I need a mental health day. #iesafespace
 

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And the world moves into a more scary time. This is not good for anyone even Ukraine and still doesn't bring this war any closer to an end.
I could be wrong, but I suspect Ukraine had military intelligence help in identifying the selected targets.
 
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