Tommy Rees - Offensive Coordinator

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StPaul_Irish said:
Brilliant mind, but the rumors of him hating and not wanting anything to do with recruiting scare me off.
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In that case, no thanks.

Tee Martin was known to be a good recruiter, but he hasn't spent much time coaching QBs outside of 2009 at New Mexico.
 
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Yeah Brady is never stepping foot in CFB again. I don’t think it was even that he disliked recruiting, which many do but still push through. He literally was just yeah I’m not doing that I think lol.
 
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Dale said:
Yeah Brady is never stepping foot in CFB again. I don’t think it was even that he disliked recruiting, which many do but still push through. He literally was just yeah I’m not doing that I think lol.
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Oregeron found out Brady was leaving on the team bus back to Baton Rouge after they won the National Championship. Brady never even told him it was a done deal.

Aranda left and there was a plan in place.

Would love to have him in the booth calling plays but if he's not up for recruiting it's a non starter.
 
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Only guy I like on that list as much as Garrett Riley is Longo. The others are fine, but I don't get that big hire feel from the others. While all would seem an upgrade to TR, can they recruit, develop a QB, and have they led an elite offense at more than one program. Whether the head coach was an offense or defensive minded guy matters to me. If a defensive minded head coach, that makes the OC even more valid. I sort of dig the idea of bringing that high powered Big12 style offense to ND to pair with our consistently strong defense. No thanks on the Wake guy.
 
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IrishSpartan said:
Longo would be my first choice he runs the ball just as good as passing it and knows how to develop a Qb.
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Interesting you bring this up. UNC is 44th in rushing offense and 9th in passing offense.

Wake Forest is 75th in Rushing and 19th in passing.
 
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Free Manera said:
Yep. Look around college football. Teams EVERYWHERE are putting up points with RPOs, slow mesh, and air raid concepts. These are comparatively simple even in the more advanced schemes. The offense generally lines up, the QB looks for hot reads, and they go. The QB reads a defender, then usually has two options off the read. In air raid schemes, it is usually a "triangle read" (3 receivers forming a triangle on the field, like a vertical, a post, and a curl underneath) where the QB looks for open space and makes the throw.

The ND offense is nuclear physics in comparison. You ask the kids to process the play call, line up, then look at the sideline to interpret a signal, then process the new play call in like 5 seconds before the snap. Then you have the receivers generally stretching the field horizontally, asking Pyne to stay in the pocket where he can't see anything, and make throws he really can't make. There is no real identity, no bread and butter plays that they come back to on a regular basis.

There is a reason NFL guys like Rees. He IS a good x's and o's guy and his concepts probably make a lot of sense to them. Because they have players that can spend countless hours learning and practicing the stuff. But this offense is just too complicated. You just can't put that on college kids, especially at a place where they actually have to go to school. If Merriweather can't get on the field because he doesn't know where to line up, that's a you problem Tom. You're making it too hard.
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Hit and hustle had a very good conversation about this. And how they were upset with Rees for not doing it more and especially with a struggling QB.
 
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SouthSideChiDomer said:
UNC is 16th in the team talent ranking and Wake is 71st.
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Still good with either guy. Both are from New Jersey and both have worked their way up. Whether either or both are fits would be the question but from a football standpoint I'd love to have either.
 
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Dale said:
Yeah Brady is never stepping foot in CFB again. I don’t think it was even that he disliked recruiting, which many do but still push through. He literally was just yeah I’m not doing that I think lol.
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People forget he wasn't even technically the OC, he was the "Passing Game Coordinator" and he was hired to staff in like the spring/summer before that season. He's strictly an Xs and Os guy, which is why he belongs in the NFL.
 
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Irishdrunk said:
Marcus was a player w Hartline at OSU.

Hartline or Joe Brady
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Hartline is a good recruiter but he has never called plays. We need someone at OC with that level of experience because no one else on this staff does (w/exception of one year our tight ends coach OC'd a mediocre Big 12 team).

Also, not for nothing, we're already at Mickens, Mason, Washington and Parker (plus Laurinatus) on the staff who are Friends of Marcus. I get hiring who you know, but people always gave BK a hard time for hiring his GVSU buddies. At what point does that start to become an issue here?
 
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stlnd01 said:
Hartline is a good recruiter but he has never called plays. We need someone at OC with that level of experience because no one else on this staff does (w/exception of one year our tight ends coach OC'd a mediocre Big 12 team).

Also, not for nothing, we're already at Mickens, Mason, Washington and Parker (plus Laurinatus) on the staff who are Friends of Marcus. I get hiring who you know, but people always gave BK a hard time for hiring his GVSU buddies. At what point does that start to become an issue here?
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stlnd01 said:
Hartline is a good recruiter but he has never called plays. We need someone at OC with that level of experience because no one else on this staff does (w/exception of one year our tight ends coach OC'd a mediocre Big 12 team).

Also, not for nothing, we're already at Mickens, Mason, Washington and Parker (plus Laurinatus) on the staff who are Friends of Marcus. I get hiring who you know, but people always gave BK a hard time for hiring his GVSU buddies. At what point does that start to become an issue here?
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Hartline is one of the best offensive recruiters in the country, not the same as some random no name friend of BK.
 
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stlnd01 said:
Hartline is a good recruiter but he has never called plays. We need someone at OC with that level of experience because no one else on this staff does (w/exception of one year our tight ends coach OC'd a mediocre Big 12 team).

Also, not for nothing, we're already at Mickens, Mason, Washington and Parker (plus Laurinatus) on the staff who are Friends of Marcus. I get hiring who you know, but people always gave BK a hard time for hiring his GVSU buddies. At what point does that start to become an issue here?
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If he brings the power spread to ND, I'd be thrilled. There is so much more than calling plays as an OC in cfb.
 
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irishff1014 said:
It don’t matter how you recruit. I am not sure a first time OC with a second year head coach is a real good idea.
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There are sub par coaches that have won national championships largely based on recruits. Larry Coker, Chizik, Orgeron, arguably Jimbo Fisher at this point. It's not a short list.
 
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irishff1014 said:
It don’t matter how you recruit. I am not sure a first time OC with a second year head coach is a real good idea.
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tko said:
What makes you think Hartline is interested in ND? I’m just curious why he would leave such a stable situation?
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He's making around $950K right now as a WR coach with a reputation for recruiting. It could be well within reason that he has zero intention of leaving Ohio State and wants to work his way up there.

Or not work his way up at all.

Most of these guys have massive egos and are looking for the next move more often than not, though. His next move being ND would certainly be a story. I just have a hard time with getting my brain around the people who want Rees out falling into the hiring a first time OC part of the venn diagram.
 
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